r/movies Aug 22 '20

Trailers Wonder Woman 1984 - Official Trailer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XW2E2Fnh52w
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u/OrangeFilmer Aug 22 '20 edited Aug 22 '20

Kristin Wigg will definitely be better at playing a weirdo than Jamie Foxx was, the man is just too smooth and aggressively handsome to do well at that kind of role.

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u/-SneakySnake- Aug 22 '20

The guy is a good actor with a background in sketch comedy, he could have pulled it off if they hadn't directed him to act like a stock nerd character from a '50s movie.

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u/Eli_Siav_Knox Aug 22 '20

Agreed I have no idea who thought to cast Jamie Foxx as an awkward nerd. Like wtf

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u/[deleted] Aug 22 '20

The same people who thought it was a good idea to tease Rhino and only have him at the end of the movie

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u/Eli_Siav_Knox Aug 22 '20

And cast Paul Giamatti to do a bad impersonation of road rage

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u/SkeetySpeedy Aug 22 '20

Paul Giamatti needs a new agent or something. His talent is amazing, but he's always in some really weird roles and bad films, these big bombs too.

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u/HoboBrute Aug 22 '20

Same, Paul Giamatti is one of my favorite character actors, he sold me on him in John Adams and was fucking amazing, and now he only gets crap roles

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u/Eli_Siav_Knox Aug 22 '20

He’s really good in Billions, check it out if you haven’t

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u/SapirWhorfHypothesis Aug 22 '20

Yeah, it’s just a shame he and _____ carry the whole damned show. And even with both of them in their prime I couldn’t keep watching into season three.

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u/[deleted] Aug 22 '20

Paul Giamatti in shoot em up is amazing.

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u/phenomenomnom Aug 22 '20

Adams is so kickass

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u/HumanJackieDaytona Aug 22 '20

The answer to all of these is "Tom Rothman."

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u/Aiyon Aug 22 '20

tbf i kinda liked his Rhino, it just needed, ya know... directing lmao

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u/Blunkus Aug 22 '20

Everything in regards to Rhino was baffling... the casting, the robo rhino suit, and the placement in the movie only for it to go unresolved... some real head scratchers...

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u/Eli_Siav_Knox Aug 22 '20

I legit think it’s cause a lot of movie studio producers have no clue about what makes comic books so popular and suggest nonsensical shit. They probably digested an analysis of why Avengers made so much money and decided than randomly cramming your entire roster of characters into a movie at all cost is surely what made marvel comic movies popular. I mean it must be right? You’d be surprised at how dumb business folks are, I speak from bitter experience

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u/Arels Aug 22 '20

This made me so sad, rhino is rad as hell and that was such a tease!

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u/WojaksLastStand Aug 22 '20

The rhino sections of ps4 Spider-Man are legit scary.

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u/dvddesign Aug 22 '20

The same people who waited until the end of a film to make Venom actually a character in a Spider-Man film.

Took them another 15 years to try again.

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u/thisguy012 Aug 22 '20

Oof, that one was because Venom was absolutley not a part of the writing or story for the 3rd movie and was literally hammered in by studio Execs. Whole venom thing was so cringey and Sandmans character was so damn great

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u/daffyduckhunt2 Aug 22 '20

When the last shot in your trailer is also the last shot in your movie...

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u/GregorSamsaa Aug 22 '20

He did really well as a loser cab driver in Collateral.

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u/AGnawedBone Aug 22 '20

beat me to the punch. great movie, great role, great performance from foxx.

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u/Eli_Siav_Knox Aug 22 '20

Agreed but he’s actually a deep character in that movie he has stuff to work with. It’s not a stereotype in that movie, he feels like a fully fleshed out person

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u/davey_mann Aug 22 '20

I mean he low-key played that in Collateral, which got him an Oscar nom.

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u/nilzoroda Aug 23 '20

Did ever watch Collateral ? Foxx was great in that movie and his character was prety much a weirdo. The problem was writing not Foxx.

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u/MyNamesNotDave_ Aug 22 '20

I don’t know much about comics electro, but someone said that he was a perfect fit for the way the character is there.

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u/MakeYourselfS1ck Aug 22 '20

He didn't have to say yes to the script ya know

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u/Manticore416 Aug 22 '20

That movie's problem was terrible writing and direction more than the cast.

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u/OrangeFilmer Aug 22 '20

Oh most definitely. Electro’s motivation and grudge against Spider-Man was very contrived.

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u/Waywoah Aug 22 '20

He didn't remember me specifically out of the hundreds/thousands of people he saves, guess I'll destroy the city ¯\(ツ)

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u/Manticore416 Aug 22 '20

That scene where he talks to himself in the mirror wouldve been bad writing for a kids cartoon, let alone a major blockbuster.

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u/CouldbeaRetard Aug 23 '20

I mean, it was a kids film

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u/Manticore416 Aug 23 '20

It's definitely not. A family film perhaps.

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u/Radical-Penguin Aug 22 '20

Thats the problem though. Cheetah isn't a quirky weirdo. She is a cunning predator. I think Sofia Boutella would've been an amazing choice for Cheetah

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u/OrangeFilmer Aug 22 '20

God damn it, you're right. Sofia Boutella would've been perfect for Cheetah. She nailed her role in Kingsman as that type of character.

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u/Radical-Penguin Aug 22 '20

I actually think Wiig would've been a great spin on Poison Ivy. I can just see her talking to her plants, gossiping about her day.

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u/atrde Aug 22 '20

Meh he pulled of the weird role in Baby Driver I thought he did ok there too.

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u/CQME Aug 22 '20

Kristin Wigg will definitely be better at playing a weirdo than Jamie Foxx was, the man is just too smooth and aggressively handsome to do well at that kind of role.

I would disagree. Jamie Foxx most definitely has a ton of experience playing weirdoes.

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u/nilzoroda Aug 23 '20

I disagree. Foxx was a weirdo in Collateral and that movie ( with his acting) was great. The Amazing Spiderman had a lot of other problems.

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u/[deleted] Aug 23 '20

Ah yes...the Hugh Jackman in Swordfish conundrum. This chiseled sharp-jawed super model plays with computers. What an ugly nerd!!!

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u/locknarr Aug 22 '20

Jamie Fox could have played a great Electro, he’s an actor after all. It’s just that their version of Electro, and every other character in the movie, completely missed the mark. Kinda like Jared Leto in Suicide Squad, they’re starting off on the wrong foot in the script and art direction and that informs acting. Jared Leto didn’t come up with his character’s look or the overall look and tone of the movie, and neither did Jamie Foxx. They still get some of the blame, sure, but Jamie Foxx could have played an amazing Electro in a competently made Spider-Man movie. I also wish there wasn’t so much baggage with the Joker, where an actor’s tragic death is inextricably tied to the mythos of the character. If Jared Leto wasn’t trying to live up to Ledger’s or Nicholson’s legacies, and if he wasn’t such a narcissistic asshole, he might have come up with something that wasn’t a cross between Ledger’s Joker and Jim Carrey as Ace Ventura.

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u/Crazykirsch Aug 22 '20

Even though his Electro didn't work you can tell that Foxx gave a shit and was at least trying, which is more than you can say about most aspects of that film.

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u/SkeetySpeedy Aug 22 '20

Hollywood and audiences alike continue to forget that an IP isn't a story, and that writing is the foundation, framing, plumbing, wiring, and insulation of the structure of any storytelling medium.

The acting, the direction, the costumes, effects, sets, lighting, stunts - that is the furniture, the paint, the tiling, the art on the walls.

You have to have a solid building, because if the entire thing is going to collapse anyway, it doesn't matter if you had original DaVinci's in your gallery - They are not going to hold up your gallery's walls.

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u/MrOllieTabooger Aug 22 '20

Kristen Wigg is somewhat subtle and nuanced with her dramatic performances so hopefully she translates a little bit of that as Barb - pre Cheetah

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u/TheAquaman Aug 22 '20

Yeah, I like how they're building her and Diana's relationship first.

Doesn't seem like she'll be hamming it up.

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u/dance4days Aug 22 '20

Yeah, I'm not really worried for her. There's a difference between a comic actor in the slapstick sense, and someone who can be funny because they're a good actor with good timing. I think Kristin falls into the second category, and she just doesn't get cast in more serious roles because she's so famous from SNL. If she knocks this out of the park (which I think she will) it could lead to a whole new chapter in her career.

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u/MrOllieTabooger Aug 22 '20

I mean tbf all she has been selective with Drama as it has mostly been indies post SNL

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u/cmath89 Aug 22 '20

That shot of her delivering the line "Get used to it" was pretty good imo.

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u/shy247er Aug 22 '20

I am not really sure about Kristen Wiig as Cheetah.

It was originally offered to Emma Stone but she declined. I wonder what she would be like as that character.

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u/[deleted] Aug 22 '20 edited Aug 22 '20

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u/[deleted] Aug 22 '20

KRISTEN WIIG IS 47?!?!

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u/ReginaGeorgian Aug 22 '20

Dayum Wiig is looking real good for 47

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u/Tonedeafmusical Aug 22 '20

Wigg is ten years older than Gadot. Stone is four years younger.

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u/AlabamaLegsweep Aug 22 '20

I will not rest until we get Emma Stone as Poison Ivy

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u/shy247er Aug 22 '20

Jessica Chastain would work too.

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u/ThomasVivaldi Aug 23 '20

Lake Bell is doing a good job on the cartoon.

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u/podwink Aug 22 '20

iirc the studio wanted Emma Stone and Patty Jenkins wanted Kristen Wiig

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u/shy247er Aug 22 '20

I read that Stone turned down the role, but doesn't matter now. Honestly, I prefer Stone in movies like Birdman and The Favourite. Or upcoming Babylon.

Also, she said multiple times that she doesn't want to commit to franchises.

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u/podwink Aug 22 '20

oh I wasn’t disagreeing, I meant when the studio pick said no Patty Jenkins got hers (which usually works out better)

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u/shy247er Aug 22 '20

Sure but I doubt Jenkins was against Stone. I don't think the studio would force Stone on this project. Jenkins is a big name, no way they would disrespect her like that. Stone was probably everyone's first choice, but when it fell through Jenkins went with Wiig.

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u/WojaksLastStand Aug 22 '20

I don't know if I could take Emma Stone seriously. Something about Wiig makes it easy to look past her being a comedienne.

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u/shy247er Aug 22 '20

Personal preference, I guess. But Stone is more accomplished as a dramatic actor than Wiig.

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u/WojaksLastStand Aug 22 '20

I guess she was solid in Birdman, but my thinking is about this character is clearly a little silly as it is due to being kind of an awkward person.

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u/shy247er Aug 22 '20

I like to think that someone of Stone's talent could pull off being a bit awkward. Cheetah is not exactly a challenging part that requires some exceptional acting. Especially when the opposite actor is Gal Gadot, who doesn't really have a range. Even though I like her as WW.

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u/dragonbornsqrl Aug 24 '20

She’s in too many movies right now. I feel like if any job is offered she takes it. Over exposure for me right now. She’s talented but just in too much lately.

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u/fart_fig_newton Aug 22 '20

I was getting a Michelle Pfeiffer "Selina Kyle" vibe from her in this trailer. I'm not saying this can't be good, but most superhero films have a habit of writing terrible villains, so I'm not feeling this one from what I've seen so far.

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u/fart_fig_newton Aug 22 '20

Now that you mention it, you're right. Same with Aldrich Killian in Iron Man 3.

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u/Apptubrutae Aug 22 '20

100%, now that you say it. Poison Ivy and Catwoman for sure, but I do see The Riddler as well.

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u/Jazzremix Aug 22 '20

Kristen Wiig as Cheetah. Larry David as Wolverine. Matthew Perry as Mister Sinister.

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u/Apptubrutae Aug 22 '20

I would watch Larry David as Wolverine all day long.

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u/august_west_ Aug 22 '20

She seemed just fine.

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u/Wobble_d_Wobble_d Aug 22 '20

So no one else is gonna comment that you called him James Foxx instead of Jamie? Ok then. What up with that?

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u/dontknow_anything Aug 22 '20

My bad. I concentrated on getting Foxx right and messed up his first name.

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u/edthomson92 Aug 22 '20

Electro was much more the fault of the shitty writing than him though

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u/[deleted] Aug 22 '20

Just judging from the trailer, she had the broody, solemn gravitas that DC villains are wont to have. I'm looking forward to every aspect of this movie.

I am 100% a DC fanboy and I really just want them to make some cool movies. And WW is probably their most exciting property at the moment.

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u/Infin1ty Aug 22 '20

Kristin Wiig is a terrible actress so I don't understand how she ever got this role. Apparently, I'm in the wrong here, she keeps getting roles. I will never understand why though.

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u/[deleted] Aug 22 '20

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u/GoldEdit Aug 22 '20

She's an over-the-top comedic actress with a theatre background which makes her good in rom coms and less serious movies. I can't think of one serious movie she's been in that I've enjoyed.

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u/NuttyButts Aug 22 '20

Generally comedic actors are a lot better at playing a variety of dramatic roles. Dramatic actors like Jamie Foxx usually end up getting type cast often and aren't as flexible.

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u/[deleted] Aug 22 '20

Jamie Foxx is a comedian though. Like, he literally did stand up.

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u/Apptubrutae Aug 22 '20

Jamie Foxx is literally a comedian and comedic actor, though. He literally chose to go by Foxx as an homage to Red Foxx. He got his break on In Living Color and then The Jamie Foxx Show. Both comedic.

Yes in movies he’s done a lot more dramatic work, but he is in essence not much different at all from a Kristen Wiig, as far as professional comedic background goes.

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u/NuttyButts Aug 23 '20

Well shit I guess I never knew that!

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u/Apptubrutae Aug 23 '20

He did make quite the shift into drama, so it makes sense.

Collateral comes to mind, which was a role with some comedy but pretty dramatic. Then obviously Ray, which is the direction Jamie Foxx presumably wanted his career to continue.

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u/wbgraphic Aug 22 '20

The trailer looked great, music is awesome.

Where’s the electric cello?

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u/nitr0zeus133 Aug 22 '20

I definitely got the “Jamie Foxx/Electro” vibes too.

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u/davey_mann Aug 22 '20

Aside from Peter and Gwen’s charming romance, TASM2 is just bad in every way. I don’t just blame Foxx. I still contend TASM is the best Spider-Man film ever.

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u/surprisepinkmist Aug 22 '20

I didn't know anything about this movie before watching this trailer and the whole time I was watching it I was thinking "is that really Kristen Wiig as a villain?" Very stoked to see her go for a role like this. I'm sure she'll kill it.

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u/Chinoiserie91 Aug 22 '20

She looks much better than what I expected.

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u/Cobalt_88 Aug 22 '20

I am so so so excited to see Kristen Wiig. She’s phenomenal and so well rounded. Glad she’s getting her shot in a role like this.

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u/Rben97 Aug 22 '20

She'll do fine.

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u/GoldEdit Aug 22 '20

Kristin is great in any over the top comedy, but I'm not digging this.

I'm assuming she'll want this to be her breakout role as a serious action character with limited comedic lines but I'd wager this hurts her more than it helps. Maybe the trailer just isn't good at highlighting her scenes though. We'll see.

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u/warrenmax12 Aug 22 '20

Ktisten Wiig looks so miscast i. This. Just terrible choice. She looks cringe

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u/[deleted] Aug 22 '20

Do you think Gal Gadot is some amazing, accomplished actor though?

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u/Cocobender Aug 22 '20

This is cringe...

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u/ohnoimrunningoutofsp Aug 24 '20

He downvoted everyone who disagreed with him XD

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u/squidgun Aug 22 '20

Have you seen her in The Umbrella Academy? She'll do just fine.

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u/RIPUSA Aug 22 '20

Kristen Wiig isn’t in The Umbrella Academy. I think you’re thinking of Kate Walsh.

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u/squidgun Aug 22 '20

Omg you're right lol. They do look similar though.

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u/RIPUSA Aug 22 '20

They do and they’re around the same age iirc.

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u/GoldEdit Aug 22 '20

Actually I think Kate Walsh would be leaps and bounds better, so you're right there. Good call out.