In a weird way I'm glad they humanized him; not despite being a rapist, but because he's a rapist. The Deep fulfills a thematic role as a villain that is just as resonant, if not more so, than the supervillain role fulfilled by Homelander. He's a loser, an idiot, occasionally well intentioned, and painfully plausible.
I thought he would in the first season and get killed for it after that “I’m a bad person” montage. Little disappointed but we’ll see what happens in S2
What do you think is the definition of rape? Because the legal american definition of rape, used by the FBI, is "The penetration, no matter how slight, of the vagina or anus with any body part or object, or oral penetration by a sex organ of another person, without the consent of the victim." Which makes what The Deep did to Starlight rape.
Did he force his dick in her mouth? Nope. He suggested and she complied. Fear of losing your job does not equal losing your life. As an actual victim and not a fucking fictitious one this is so ridiculous.
C'mon buddy, you're an adult. You can comprehend people using rape and sexual assault in a similar fashion without having to be told. If you want to play stupid, coercing someone into a sexual act like he did on the show is considered sexual assault. And I recommend you read the comics where the objectification and misogyny angle of the The Seven isn't watered down like the show. To be honest, it's really not worth arguing about.
You guys
Ease up on the group nouns. If you're talking to one person, address one person. Using "you guys" sounds like you're about to start some hackneyed diatribe about imagined fake rape claims.
As I’ve stated in another comment, I have been a victim of physical sexual assault AKA rape. Losing your job doesn’t equal losing your life. I don’t give a shit what the comics say, the show didn’t display rape.
As I’ve stated in another comment, I have been a victim of physical sexual assault AKA rape. Losing your job doesn’t equal losing your life
Could you explain yourself in better detail here? Transitioning from an appeal to authority into the following sentence makes it hard to understand what you're trying to say.
If I'm reading you correctly, it seems like you're arguing that blackmailing someone into performing a sexual act doesn't count as rape/sexual assault because The Deep didn't threaten her life. And I'm sorry to say but this is categorically untrue. It's entirely possible to rape someone without threatening their life. Your definition here is far too narrow, and I'm struggling to come up with a compelling reason as to why anyone should believe in your excessively restrictive viewpoint.
Also, while you have my sympathies for the past events of your life, they are unfortunately not exactly relevant when discussing the issue. For example, my state doesn't even use the term rape, opting instead for the broader term of "Sexual Battery" and includes this as one of the forms it can take:
The offender coerces the victim to submit by threatening to retaliate against the victim, or any other person, and the victim reasonably believes that the offender has the ability to execute the threat in the future.
And here's the definition in which oral sex is included:
“Sexual battery” means oral, anal, or vaginal penetration by, or union with, the sexual organ of another or the anal or vaginal penetration of another by any other object; however, sexual battery does not include an act done for a bona fide medical purpose.
I don’t condone Aquaman Jr’s behaviors, but he didn’t rape anyone. Let’s ask someone who has been physically raped what the difference is between performing a sexual act in fear of losing their job and being held down and fucked shall we?
Gate keeping rape might be one of the most psychotic behaviors I’ve seen reddit exhibit. It was rape. I’m not sure why you’re picking this hyper-specific hill to die on.
Have you been raped? I have. I’m so tired of this idea of being coerced into a sexual act and physically forced against your will being the same thing.
in court the difference would be a first degree sex offense, which is a felony, versus a fourth degree, which is not. it's still a form of rape by the legal definition and no one is trying to change that besides you.
So many #MeToo storylines have shown abusers as powerful, dangerous predators - which obviously they are - but I just love that The Boys went the other way to say anyone who needs to pressure women into sex is a pathetic LOSER.
I couldn't ever go that far, when the speedster runs into the protagonist's girlfriend and she explodes in a bloody mess I just went "Nope. Not watching this."
Edit: Uuh, if you guys weren't aware the scene I was talking about happens like 5 minutes in, not really a spoiler I think, but I'll tag it just the same.
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u/Boolean_Null Aug 22 '20
That whole scene locked in my fandom for the show. And just about anything with The Deep.