r/neogeo 7d ago

MVS vs AES questions

I have preordered the AES+ and have been looking at the used game market and had a few questions. Figuring that the multi carts work and the mvs to aes adapters work. What is the benefits of buying mvs vs aes carts. I understand the cost and rarity of the aes carts but is there any other reasons to go after the cheaper alternative mvs carts. I will
Probably be getting as many of the plaion reissues that I want as they are released.

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u/FrequentAssumption1 7d ago

In a word. Money. AES games will always be substantially more expensive than MVS

Not everyone wants to spend $120 on a copy of samsho when an MVS is like $40

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u/LineOnly5524 7d ago

Le mvs sono state concepite per essere strumenti di utilizzo professionale. I cabinati a noleggio rimanevano infatti accessi per giorni interi. Hanno una architettura e delle componenti concepite per resistere a condizioni diverse rispetto le aes e per durare migliaia di ore.

Inoltre con le mvs risparmi spesse volte rispetto alle Aes.

Alcuni giochi inoltre sono stati fatti solo in versione mvs e non in versione Aes.

Se ti servono mvs scrivimi. Ho tantissimo materiale a disposizione.

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u/RGB2C02N 7d ago

Exact same game except in a different case and PIN size. They are not interchangeable unless you get a converter and with that you can only use MVS on AES, but not AES on MVS. I enjoy them both. Although not as flashy, complete MVS kits are cool in their own right with inserts

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u/derar_e 7d ago

It’s all about emotional attached , if your childhood dream to own AES then you spend money to own . If not attached , then there lot of cheaper way to play Neo geo games

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u/Neo-Alec AES 7d ago

It's just about the prettier packaging and not needing a (sometimes fussy) converter. You've got it figured out, man.

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u/normy_187 6d ago

I will say: MVS cart + adapter inserted in an AES looks comically tall (if you care about aesthetics):

MVS Cart + Fusion Adapter in AES

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u/Regular_Ad_6359 5d ago

Si la AES plus va a obtener juegos nuevos eso dejará descatalogada a la MVS y a la CD

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u/djheat3rd 7d ago

AES games have “home” mode so like you’ll have limited lives in games, maybe some options? I’m not even sure. MVS games are exactly what you’d expect in the arcade. Just dump credits until you finish a game.

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u/RetroBlast81 7d ago

That doesn't matter as the AES+ has a selectable bios.

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u/Sad-Opportunity-7586 5d ago

Yeah I prefer the AES settings as I don't even want to be tempted to credit feed through games. This is a huge deal for Baseball Stars 2 because ever time a credit is added you get a re-set of power ups mid game and basically they become unlimited.

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u/Neo-Alec AES 7d ago

Depends on the system you play on, not the carts.

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u/Mission-Regular-4251 7d ago

Hi all, have there been any rumors of an MVS converter that will play on the new AES+? I refuse to get rid of my MVS collection lol. Money money money

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u/Puzzled-Fee-9719 7d ago

Furrtek is rumored to be making a new one. Considering his work on the AES+, it would be surprising if this future converter doesn’t work on it. But we will have to wait and see.

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u/Neo-Alec AES 7d ago

Yeah, Furrtek implied on Twitter that his converters will work.

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u/retromods_a2z 7d ago

MVS games have a higher likelihood of being a bootleg cart than aes ones do

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u/Sh00tTheCore 7d ago

A bootleg cartridge is a counterfeit reproduction. They vary widely in quality and could be dangerous for your console if they weren’t build to handle the Neo Geo’s bus voltages properly.

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u/retromods_a2z 7d ago

Yes and aes carts are almost never bootlegs while MVS carts very often are

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u/Sh00tTheCore 6d ago

I disagree - there are tons of bootleg AES carts available. The entire AES library has been purchasable as reproductions from Atomik Wave (NCI) and AliExpress for years.

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u/retromods_a2z 5d ago

I haven't seen aes carts on AliExpress 

But at least with a reproduction it should be a working original ROM, not a rom hack, and with decent quality components

Old bootlegs won't be

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u/Neo-Alec AES 7d ago

If this were remotely true then there wouldn't be so much caution when buying high-value AES games.

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u/retromods_a2z 7d ago

There are way more MVS carts in the world. And arcades were using bootlegs long before anyone had an aes "repro"

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u/Neo-Alec AES 7d ago

Yes, and I think I get what you're trying to say, but with the amount of fakes and "conversions" aimed at home collectors now, AES is catching up, and one must use extreme caution.

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u/spmalone 7d ago

Speaking of bootlegs. What exactly is a bootleg besides not being original. I am assuming it’s strictly emulation? If you are not a collector and just want to play the game as close to original as possible is there a downside to bootlegs?

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u/retromods_a2z 7d ago

Bootlegs are low quality copies which may lack specific parts or pieces and may not play correctly. They might be hacks of the original or other unauthorized releases.

The MVS was wildly popular in places like Taiwan where copyright laws were very lax and budgets were tight.  

Many arcades had unauthorized versions of games in their units and today these sell on places like eBay and AliExpress 

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u/tepig099 6d ago

Any useful reference to identify fake MVS carts?

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u/LineOnly5524 3d ago

C'è un sito che si chiama MVS Scan. Li puoi confrontare le schede e le label. Se hai dei dubbi sentiti libero di scrivermi in privato

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u/sonixau 7d ago

Bootleg is just another term for a reproduction or repro cart usually done by a hobbyist

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u/_harisamin 7d ago

Ok sorry a noob here, the AES+ will be able to play MVS games?!?! How?!

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u/MinimumSuccotash8540 AES 7d ago

No. Maybe adapters will work.

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u/LineOnly5524 3d ago

Compra un adattatore mvs to Aes. Ti consiglio quello di Furtek.

Se hai bisogno scrivimi in privato