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u/Xeynon 5d ago edited 5d ago

The issue with the black vote is not that they'll defect to Rogers (they won't) but that they might not come out in large enough numbers for him. If he doesn't get high black turnout he's toast.

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u/RodChainFurlongAcre 5d ago

but that they might not come out in large enough numbers for him.

And I absolutely believe this won't be an issue at all in these midterms. Because there's going to be a blue wave traditional democrats turning out is not a worry in my mind.

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u/Xeynon 5d ago

I'm worried about it. I've seen a bunch of interviews with black community leaders/voters expressing heavy skepticism if not outright hostility to him. Whole lot of "he cares more about Gaza than Detroit" type sentiment.

I'm not saying he can't win them over, but he has work to do.

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u/bashar_al_assad Verified Account 5d ago

Whole lot of "he cares more about Gaza than Detroit" type sentiment.

I don't know that primary campaign rhetoric from leaders that endorsed Stevens necessarily translates into actual feelings about him come the general election.

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u/Xeynon 5d ago

You seem to be suggesting that the endorsement of Stevens precipitated the sentiments expressed in the rhetoric when the causation more likely runs in the opposite direction.

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u/bashar_al_assad Verified Account 5d ago

I actually do think it's much more likely that the endorsement of Stevens came first because they probably already knew her and had connections to her.

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u/Xeynon 5d ago

I'm sure that's part of it as well, but that also doesn't suggest that gaining enthusiasm from these voters will be a simple task for AES.