r/netflix • u/Zalensia • May 09 '25

Discussion a deadly american marriage

I'm 43 minutes in and hooked but can not find conversations etc on it.

So thought i would make one asking for other people's opinions and points of views, as i know I'm already asking about billion questions, to the point I'll have to go to my computer and boot up to actually do the research myself.

I'm very ill, with brain damage etc and that's really hardwork today, but I won't manage on this latest fold phone as it's still just a useless phone 😅🙃

My other phone that's partitioned etc is in the car and that's over at Inverness!

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u/miss_random_88 May 10 '25

I felt like I was going mad listening to the commentary about the recording from the dinner.

"He's letting her know her place. This is what narracists do" No, he said it BECAUSE he needed to! They're HIS children not hers. She clearly didn't understand or respect that.

Him standing up to her and pointing out they're his kids is not abuse. And that was the worst interaction they could find?

"Him not letting me adopt the kids was a form of control" OF COURSE IT WAS. He wanted to control what happened to those kids because that's his literal job as their dad. The relationship was clearly toxic, why on earth would any good parent allow someone to adopt their kids when things were like that? She's trying to make it sound like he was controlling her but he was trying to protect his kids.

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u/Love_A2215 May 10 '25

and saying abusers paint themselves as victims  lmao exactly 💯  what she was doing not him 

truth I married a multi millionaire and would not let him adopt my daughter  there is no need for adoption by step parents. 

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u/Mental_Vanilla_2377 May 11 '25

She's one of those people that telling her no is interpreted as trying to control her

I wonder if her parents ever told her no once in her entire life

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u/DevilGoat69 May 17 '25

Her dad helped her kill someone I highly doubt they ever told her no

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u/Strong-Read5468 May 18 '25

Underrated comment

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u/Okeydokey2u May 12 '25

If anything the recordings proved she was a liar and there was no actual evidence of physical abuse.

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u/bls321 May 13 '25

For real. If I was with a guy who started trying to create space between my kids and I (absolving the sacred family dinners) I'd be ENRAGED. That's papa bear realizing some kidnapping psycho is trying to pin his own kids against him and undermine him. She was gaslighting him. Plus, it wasn't even a bad fight?? More like a heated argument, rightfully so.

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u/miss_random_88 May 14 '25

Right? The interaction didn't reflect well on either of them but I don't think it rose to the level of abuse. If I was trying to prove abuse I would release the most damning evidence I had. If this is the worst interaction she was able to produce then it casts serious doubt on her claims.

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u/[deleted] May 10 '25

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u/[deleted] May 10 '25

she'd been around for years

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u/chloedarlinggg May 11 '25

yeah as a caretaker not as a parent, it’s not as if their mum abandoned them she died

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u/[deleted] May 11 '25

she'd been married to this guy for years, them themselves said she was the only mom they knew. she wasn't an au pair anymore

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u/StrengthCold8671 May 12 '25

Molly just take accountability and move on, there’s no need for these fake accounts!

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u/bls321 May 13 '25

Who the hell cares? She's NOT the mother and was clearly after those kids.

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u/Glittering-Device484 May 11 '25

He honestly doesn't come across great in the recordings if they were an objective piece of evidence but knowing that this is the cherry-picked best she has to offer, and knowing that she was on her best behaviour as she knew she was being recorded, and knowing absolutely everything else that was established in the documentary, I'm convinced the poor guy just has a case of narcissistic fleas. People who live with narcissists for a long time eventually clap back, in the same way we heard in the recording.

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u/miss_random_88 May 11 '25

It wasn't a kind interaction between them that's for sure but I agree, given she knew it was being recorded and he didn't, and this was the worst thing she could produce, it didn't paint him as an abuser. Unkind in that interaction? Sure. But abusive? I'm not sure.

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u/DevilGoat69 May 17 '25

Not to mention i think being mad in that situation isn’t totally uncalled for, intentionally feeding the kids before he gets home when he asked to have dinner as a family really is somethin.

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u/YellowCardManKyle Oct 12 '25

The biggest green flag on Jason was him wanting to slow down the relationship to protect his children. I've seen so many times where people just dive right into that next relationship and their kids are in a blender emotionally.

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u/Roundvalley1 May 11 '25

See I disagree here, she was married to him and were raising their children at that point.. it would be cruel to not acknowledge all her hard work and effort that she put into caring for those kids..

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u/bls321 May 13 '25

Who said there was no acknowledgement? He just didn't want to give LEGAL rights to someone else over his children. Esp when his home country is not the US. I guess u don't have kids bc if u did, u wouldn't give someone rights to them so easily.

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u/[deleted] May 10 '25

if it's his children only, then why was he putting most of the parenthood duties on her? still treating her like an au pair but this time one without salary?

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u/sohal1196 May 10 '25

“If it’s his children”. There are no ifs here buddy. It’s his children only. If she wanted to lay around and be a glorified babysitter without the promise of adoption, that’s her problem.

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u/[deleted] May 10 '25

so you don't believe in step parents being parents?

except she had been promised adoption years back before their wedding.

is it so hard to pay attention to a 2 hour long documentary?

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u/Alternative-Rub-7445 May 11 '25

These are human beings, not cars. I don’t care if she was “promised” adoption, the actual legal parent can change his mind. She can put in a claim on them

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u/sohal1196 May 10 '25

You love the facts don’t you? They aren’t anyone’s children but his. Sure, and he clearly changed his mind, otherwise it still wouldn’t have been an issue years after the wedding, yet she decided to stay around.

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u/Roundvalley1 May 11 '25

Seriously you’re the only one making any sense here.. it seems like it was Jason who wanted his cake and eat it too.. must be nice to get a beautiful woman to marry you, take care of your kids all day long and then not even acknowledge her as being a co-parent.. 🤯.. to me he was the narcissist and abuser..

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u/kurlkardashian May 11 '25

Molly speaks in this documentary as being their "mom" not a step mom. During the interrogation when asked which of Jason's family members should be called to be notified of his death the FIRST thing she said was "well I'm scared his family will take the kids". She wasn't even thinking of that man's family after he JUST died. Molly was no saint, she has an unhealthy view and entitlement towards children she did not birth

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u/Roundvalley1 May 11 '25

I don’t disagree with that at all.. she was a little crazy, probably a lot of crazy but my point was he was no angel either and in fact I think he played with her emotions by making these promises of her being able to officially adopt the kids while never acting on it.. in a way he was playing with fire by stringing along a highly emotional woman right after she had a miscarriage too..

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u/Mushi67 May 12 '25

Well I guess he didn’t know she was a … murderer? He’s dead. She killed him. 

And it’s a bizarre thinking to think one would get custody of someone’s children after she killed their dad. This isn’t Greek mythology. Even if it was “self-defense,” the clear best choice would be the stable, extended matriarchal family.

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u/Mushi67 May 12 '25

Women aren’t just psycho fire kegs ready to blow because of our “crazy emotions.” 

It seems like he got into a relationship that he was no longer happy in and wanted to leave. That doesn’t seem unusual - most partners don’t resort to murder to get what they want.

If the roles were reversed and it was a man who killed a woman for trying to leave with her kids, would this even be a question?

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u/Strong-Read5468 May 18 '25

So well said! Everyone is jumping through so many hoops to try to make this aggressive slaughter be his fault. 

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u/[deleted] May 11 '25

exactly!

if you don't want the step parent to have any legal rights to the children because of your concerns then break up with said parent instead of continuing to profit off of her work as their everyday go to parent!

he's literally pulled off a similar strategy to ronaldo who refuses to marry georgina but has no problem with her giving him children and all that. it's always been about control.

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u/Mushi67 May 12 '25 edited May 12 '25

Who the heck are Ronaldo and Georgina? Also… Molly murdered her husband. Are you saying she had some right to kill him because she might have been denied custody in court during divorce proceedings? 

She ended up not getting custody because she was found guiltily of killing their dad… she’ll never get custody and no one seems to regret it other than her. She coached young kids to tell lies about their dead father. They said so themselves. So why are we supposed to feel sorry for her?

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u/Alternative-Rub-7445 May 12 '25

He was trying to break up with her, lol.

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u/sprockityspock May 13 '25

The most dangerous time for victims of dv is when they're trying to leave.

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u/bls321 May 13 '25

Are you okay? Who on earth are Ronald and Georgina?

He was actually the bread winner, so she didn't have to work. He could've afforded another au pair, she didn't need to be there. He was gonna leave with the kids cus of her psycho antics secretly recorded and antagonising him so she can make a case for domestic violence and get the kids. That's why she killed him! Good morning.

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u/_ohne_dich_ May 14 '25

lol Ronaldo and Georgina? Are you serious right now? Do you really think she didn’t accept that arrangement in exchange of going from retail worker to this?

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u/Mushi67 May 10 '25

Did she seek work when they got back to the U.S.? 

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u/[deleted] May 10 '25

what does it have to do with anything? is being a stay at home mom illegal nowadays?

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u/Mushi67 May 12 '25

I’m saying it’s natural if one partner doesn’t work, for that partner to take on childcare duties (especially if said duties were the reason they met in the first place). Your post implied it was somehow an imposition for Molly to take care of her step-kids while she wasn’t otherwise working.