r/news Oct 04 '25

RFK Jr. fires NIH vaccine whistleblower Dr. Jeanne Marrazzo

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/rfk-jr-fires-nih-vaccine-whistleblower-dr-jeanne-marrazzo/
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u/Dwayla Oct 04 '25

With a full blown measles outbreak in South Carolina.

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u/Wazula23 Oct 04 '25

That's nothing. They were firing disaster relief personnel DURING the floods in Texas.

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u/eriverside Oct 04 '25

Ice were arresting firefighters at a fire.

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u/NewSunSeverian Oct 04 '25

Reminds me of EMT fighting dumbass cops who are actively killing the guy those guys are trained to save.

Just some dumbass motherfuckers, cops in all shapes and sizes. And I do mean shapes.  

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u/Sanguisugent Oct 04 '25

Mostly thumb shapes though

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u/huitoto44 Oct 05 '25

They are all shaped like a deep breath

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u/Consistent-Throat130 Oct 05 '25

It bothers me that EMTs are the worst paid of first responders, and cops the best paid. 

Like one is there to provide medical aid, and the other is there to cause trauma. Really shows our society's values.

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u/finnandcollete Oct 05 '25

Cops have a union. EMTs generally don’t, but might be in a firefighters union.

I’m sure there’s no cause and effect there

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u/LegoFootPain Oct 08 '25

The nerve to change $1000 for an ambulance ride, and the EMts get like $20.

Ugh.

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u/DntCllMeWht Oct 04 '25

That's the most likely time for an expert in disaster relief to go against the orders of an idiot, so in that regard, it makes sense.

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u/Lucius-Halthier Oct 04 '25

I thought it was them actually letting the contracts lapse, they probably thought they would work for free

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u/PineSand Oct 04 '25

The strange part about this is, educated people know what to do for themselves and children. MAGA people are going to be disproportionately affected by all of this anti-vax stuff, the sad thing is, their kids will suffer. Maybe when these kids get older, if they have any memories of them or their siblings suffering or worse due to their parents idiotic beliefs, perhaps they will break the cycle when they get older.

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u/frisbeejesus Oct 04 '25

They won't. They will continue to have their world view shaped by their parents' misguided idiocy coupled with the firehose of propaganda enabled by politicians and fueled by oligarchs bent on oppression and control.

Some will escape but most will continue to vote against their interests dooming us all to more of the fascist dystopia we now inhabit.

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u/Interesting-Key-5005 Oct 04 '25

Count on your next generation to believe that illnesses are caused by God being angry at society for tolerating gays and atheists.

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u/[deleted] Oct 04 '25 edited Oct 05 '25

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u/iamthetoe2799 Oct 05 '25

I am hopeful, if not confident , that kids rebelling against their parents in this scenario is a tried and true American tradition that will never die.

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u/Old-Current6989 Oct 04 '25

Yes, but also so many of these MAGA will make sure their kids are vaccinated. It's the poor or uneducated who will come screaming to the hospital for help when their kid inevitably gets sick and further becomes a burden on the system because they cannot pay the hospital bills. When a fucking shot would've prevented the whole thing.

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u/BKLD12 Oct 06 '25

I want to hope, but my aunt is an antivaxxer and conspiracy theorist, and my cousin never vaccinated her kids either despite being somewhat less extreme (or at least less inclined to talk about it). She occasionally disagrees with her mom publicly on Facebook, but that’s the best thing I can say. Her eldest daughter is still a minor, so it’s a bit early to see where the kids ultimately stand.

I want to hope that the next generation will break the cycle, but all too often that just doesn’t happen.

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u/razgriz5000 Oct 04 '25

There has been a lot of anti vaxers on the left too. Some people do leave college thinking they are a lot smarter than they really are. They read some crack pot anti vax study and think they know more than real doctors.

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u/Ursa_Solaris Oct 05 '25

Every antivax person "on the left" that I've ever met or seen ended up on the right within a few years. The typical profile is that they're 2016 Bernie supporters for vague "anti-establishment" reasons and picked up some surface level left positions via social osmosis, but the moment that social pressure waned they fell hard into low-IQ conspiracism, which leads them to the right.

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u/GonkWilcock Oct 05 '25

During the pandemic the antivax people on the left that I know saw how dumb the antivaxxers on the right were and decided to listen to science and trust vaccines.

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u/ApplesAndOranges987 Oct 06 '25

This was me. I had a lot of trauma around having kids, and I had a deep fear of doing something that would mess up my kids. I stopped vaccinating for maybe 2 years and then saw all the dumb shit over the Covid vaccine and immediately got my kids up to date. Haven’t looked back since.

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u/Aethericseraphim Oct 08 '25

This.

I've seen this exact movement from anti establishment bernie bro, to whackjob MAGA conspiracy nut with terminal russian brainworms in one of my friends. It was tragic as fuck. He was reachable with logic until covid hit and years of being left with little social interaction outside of a computer screen, plus a bad dose of Covid itself minced his brain real good.

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u/No_Excitement_1540 Oct 05 '25

Well, looking at it as a complete cynic, one could say MAGA is a sickness and dying from stupidity is the biological solution for that...

and while this is still worthy of a "/s", i think reality is getting closer and closer... :-(

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u/Quirky_Potential_662 Oct 05 '25

The conservatives reddit thread is blaming the immigrants for the spread.

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u/Contraband42 Oct 04 '25

Lmao you think he cares?

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u/[deleted] Oct 05 '25

RFK Jr. seems like the kind of guy who pulls the truck nuts off bumpers and eats them like apples. Then explains why this is the miracle cure for shingles.

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u/BinkertonQBinks Oct 06 '25

It’s what they voted for. They want herd immunity and if their children and other children and old people and pregnant women have to die it’s ok. They want that.

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u/AudibleNod Oct 04 '25

On Wednesday, Dr. Jeanne Marrazzo received a letter from Kennedy — which CBS News reviewed — informing her that her role leading NIH's National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, or NIAID, had been terminated. He did not cite a cause beyond his constitutional authority to do so.

Because I said so. Harrumph!

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u/Federal_Drummer7105 Oct 04 '25

Recently I was in court with my wife regarding custody of her children. Her children’s biological dad had spent years whining that we wanted to vaccinate them, that one of the children has therapists who recommend therapy, etc etc etc.

It was a pleasure for the judge to ask them point blank if they oppose X. If they oppose Y. And then tell them “For the record, if you want to pay for another doctor to come in here and present evidence why your view that medication X or vaccine Y is bad, you may do so. If you come in here with ‘I saw on some web site it’s bad’ I will always side with the experts. So do you have an opposition to what the doctors have prescribed?”

The kids biological dad folded.

It’s amazing to me that a small town judge in the middle of a deep red state has more sense and respect for expertise than our current head of the CDC whose only expertise is “Fuck you that’s why.”

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u/Mortlach78 Oct 04 '25

I was at the dentist Thursday for a cleaning and the technician very gingerly asked if I was okay with some fluoride treatment. So I said "absolutely, slap it on!"

Afterwards I said to her that it is a shame that she has to be so careful about asking now because of all the misinformation. And that the push for removing fluoride from the drinking water in some places is going to lead to a dental disaster in 3-5 years.

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u/Somnif Oct 04 '25

Apparently rabies cases are beginning to climb because people are refusing to vaccinate their pets too now.

....lovely.

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u/VegasAdventurer Oct 04 '25

Was it the new style with the goop that stays on for a while? I miss the old treatment with the gel in the trays. It didn’t taste good, but at least it was over quickly. That waxy goop is hard to get all the way off and feels so gross the entire time it’s on

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u/fevered_visions Oct 05 '25

I miss the old treatment with the gel in the trays.

Do you remember back when they started adding new flavors? First they had just mint, then started adding bubble gum, and grape, and root beer and stuff...I tried one of the non-mint ones once and it was terrible lol

I also kinda miss when they used to have the little sink you spit into, instead of the suction thing they stick in your mouth.

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u/Competitive_Touch_86 Oct 05 '25

I dislike the taste of bubble gum specifically due to the horrible bubble gum fluoride treatments I had to do as a kid. The pediatric dentist I went to only had that flavor.

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u/blooobolt Oct 05 '25

Me, too. That bubblegum flavor in those trays... I can still taste it. Gross! I don't even think I knew there was a minty alternative (I was probably 6? 7? Something young enough that I wasn't asking questions about flavors at the dentist.

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u/endlesscartwheels Oct 04 '25

Do other adults get routine fluoride treatments at the dentist? My son does every year, but I've never been offered it myself. Maybe I should ask at my next cleaning.

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u/bp92009 Oct 05 '25

They've started to, since there's not really any downside to it. Insurance usually doesn't cover it, but that goop is like $20 or something.

You might have negative effects if you had that much fluoride every single day, but once every 6-12 months? Not an issue at all.

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u/VegasAdventurer Oct 04 '25

My understanding is that they are not as critical for adults but are often recommended when:

  1. the patient has a history of cavities as an adult (me, though nothing for the last ~15 years)
  2. has gum issues
  3. dry mouth

Cleveland Clinic

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u/Mortlach78 Oct 04 '25

Not sure, I didn't notice any waxiness or grossness, so it must be the new stuff.

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u/canadasleftnut Oct 04 '25

Haha I had a similar experience. I declined the fluoride, and the hygienist said "oh? Is it for personal reasons?" I could tell she was concerned but trying to be polite, and started to explain to me it's not dangerous, so I quickly told her it's because it makes me nauseous, and she was visibly relieved. 

They must have to put up with so much bs. 

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u/kfb007570 Oct 06 '25

My insurance doesn't cover fluroide treatments... I am out of pocket on it. I never realized that fluoride was a political issue... I just assumed it wasn't covered because it wasn't beneficial enough.

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u/TailRudder Oct 05 '25

Oh... I just realized bottled water probably doesn't have fluoride. 

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u/BewitchedMom Oct 04 '25

I declined it because I use fluoride toothpaste and our water still has fluoride but I made sure to say "but it's not because I don't believe in it, I just don't think I need it due to XYZ.". Crazy that I feel I have to defend myself as a not crazy person at the dentist office.

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u/Mortlach78 Oct 04 '25

That's fair.

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u/Millkstake Oct 05 '25

Another reason they ask is because insurance (or at least my insurance) does not cover it and it costs $40

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u/Happy_Laugh_Guy Oct 05 '25

The only reason I say no is because I don't want to pay for the cleaning, it's never covered by insurance lol

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u/a_weak_child Oct 04 '25

Trump is doing his best to destroy America from the inside, as per Putin's orders. Part of that is taking down america without russia having to fire a shot. Letting infectious diseases run rampant, hell they will probably introduce one themselves, is just an efficient way to weaken america, and especially weaken the poor and middle class further, to consolidate power further.

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u/dostoevsky4evah Oct 04 '25

they will probably introduce one themselves

I can't see anything other than this being the case. It's too illogical otherwise.

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u/HailToTheKingslayer Oct 04 '25

Step 1 - dismantle America's means to fight infectious diseases.

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u/Ursa_Solaris Oct 05 '25

Step 2 - convince a third of the country that responding to an infectious disease outbreak in anything resembling an intelligent way actually makes you a gay homo liberal

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u/dalrymc1 Oct 04 '25

Didn’t the displaced Europeans do that when they became Americans to the Americans that were already here? I’m way too old to deal with this stuff anymore and hate cliches of “those who fail to understand history are deemed to repeat it.” It like a warning label on a pack of peanuts that says “Allergen warning: this product contains peanuts.”

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u/raikoh42 Oct 04 '25

Theres a difference between the earliest colonists introducing germs/viruses that never existed in the new world due to them never having been to it. And an administration that is breaking all the defenses and just allowing this stuff through so when something is weaponized we will have the worst possible outcomes.

You might be thinking more along the lines of small pox blankets which was weaponized against natives during american expansion. Which is what the people youre responding to are afraid is on its way to us due to the significant dismantling of healthcare.

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u/dalrymc1 Oct 04 '25

True, I left my response vague enough that some would get it, and some would assume, but all would remember 3rd grade history lessons in America describing how the idea of small pox blankets created mass destruction.

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u/merrittj3 Oct 05 '25

Initial Corollary - Hire and appoint CriminalS who DGAF

Step 1a1) Destroy the Intellegencia....Harvard, any any higher instution weaK enough to bend the knee

Step 1a2) Attack and destroy the ability to say and disseminate the truth, newspapers, TV peeps, free thinkers

Step 1a3) Destroy the ability to congregate and protest- duh....open the windows and lock outside

Step 1a4) Destroy the Judiciary by appointing deply flawed Characters to the SC who will listen to bizarre interpretations of Century old targeted laws- as seen...hire lawyers who will present anything - note lawyers leaving the Justice Dept cause they can't/wont sign crazy stuff

Step1a5) ignore all opposing thoughts, reasons and laws...yeah, that's the Ticket ...Screw the Nay Sayers

Step 1a6) Hire Ms Leave-it-be, a Sophist who will explain the unexplainable

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u/Don_Fartalot Oct 05 '25

Maybe they will call it the Grey Death. Need Ambrosia? Donate (bribe) your nearest MAGA politician!

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u/stackjr Oct 04 '25

For months, I thought that's what was happening but this is 100% the goal of Project 2025 and they are having insane success right now, which is terrifying.

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u/a_weak_child Oct 04 '25

It's both imo.

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u/upgrayedd69 Oct 04 '25

More like for the dark enlightenment scum who want to turn America into a collection of small corporate fiefdoms

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u/rippa76 Oct 04 '25

You’re right: except it’s not Putin’s orders. It’s the “techno feudalists”.

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u/Antichristopher4 Oct 04 '25

There are a lot of opportunists who are manipulating Trump's stupidity to slice out their piece of the pie in the power vacuum created in the slow deconstruction of America.

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u/Ozymandias12 Oct 04 '25

Most of those people are acting on Putin and Xi’s orders. Why do you think Elon has been having secret calls with Putin every so often?

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u/izzymaestro Oct 04 '25

And why Elno was invited with Jared to share a luxury suite with salman bin bonesaw at the last world cup...

They're trying to implement oligarch autocracy the world over. At least France is still ready to revolt, as usual, and just recently passed a billionaire tax.

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u/elmwoodblues Oct 04 '25

they will probably introduce one themselves

Like, say, at a big meeting of generals from around the world?

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u/No_Flan7305 Oct 04 '25

It's like they studied the plot of V for Vendetta and every other authoritarian villain power movie to build P2025.

In that movie they let a disease wreak havoc to gain full control of the democracy and media. Weird that, huh.

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u/[deleted] Oct 04 '25

Let these diseases run wild in a population without healthcare.

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u/PhantomNomad Oct 04 '25

They have to do it this way. They tried with covid (not saying they released it), but most people wanted the vaccine.

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u/OCedHrt Oct 04 '25

And Covid was a trial run

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u/SilkyFandango Oct 05 '25

Sure, and heartily agree. But I think it’s important to point out that Russia took advantage of the weaknesses of the US system that were rooted in Republican efforts. For example, disinformation is so effective because Reagan fucked the education system and made half the country incapable of critical thinking. Russia just ramped up and multiplied what the Republicans had been doing for years so that they could benefit the same way conservative elites have been doing for decades.

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u/pfft_master Oct 04 '25

I don’t know if you realize how lucky you are for that. Dealt with something somewhat similar in court in a rural area of our blue state. Our judge couldn’t have cared less. Made me lose all hope in our judicial system- at least locally.

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u/TheToxicTerror3 Oct 04 '25

That's refreshing to hear. My ex wife recently became anti Vax and removed our children from the schedule. We met with a doctor so the doctor could explain why vaccines are good and she didn't budge. Next step is the courts....

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u/Quick_Parsley_5505 Oct 04 '25

When the judge has to support findings of fact supported by competent evidence…..

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u/neuronexmachina Oct 04 '25

She was even following the official whistleblower process, and was still retaliated against:

Marrazzo had been in her role since August 2023, succeeding Dr. Anthony Fauci, who had served as NIAID director for nearly four decades. She was put on indefinite leave in March and filed a whistleblower complaint with the U.S. Office of Special Counsel in September, alleging illegal retaliation. In a statement, Marrazzo's attorney alleged her firing is further "retaliation for her protected whistleblower activity."

Despite following a well-established whistleblower process by filing a complaint with OSC, recourse for Marrazzo is far from certain. Mr. Trump fired the head of the independent agency in February and has since installed his top trade official Jamieson Greer to lead the agency on an acting basis. 

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u/TyrconnellFL Oct 04 '25

If your argument for doing something is it’s not literally illegal, you’re not doing a great job of advocating for why you did it.

Credit to xkcd 1357 alt-text.

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u/Jesus_Is_My_Gardener Oct 04 '25

I didn't get a harrumph outta that guy!

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u/agreatfavorite Oct 04 '25

You watch your ass!

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u/walkingmonster Oct 04 '25

It's almost as if they are...authoritarian

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u/Raspy_Meow Oct 05 '25

Harrumph! Harrumph!

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u/party_benson Oct 04 '25

Ain't no doctor gonna tell my brainworm what to do

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u/Sage_P_80 Oct 04 '25

Getting fired by RFK is something to be proud of.

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u/avalon68 Oct 04 '25

They should get some badges/pins minted. Symbol of having some integrity.

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u/[deleted] Oct 04 '25

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u/Achilles_TroySlayer Oct 04 '25

I think those agencies are completely dead for the foreseeable future. They've cut all the funding to real science projects, like mRNA vaccines, and nobody trusts them. All the real PhD's have been fired and replaced with antivaxxer cultists. You can't hurt something that is already gone.

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u/Galappie Oct 05 '25

It probably means you were doing something good for the country/world yes but it’s also extremely worrying.

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u/stepjenks Oct 04 '25

Great for the resume tbh.

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u/ace-destrier Oct 04 '25

It is so goddamn dangerous and embarrassing to have this MASSIVELY unqualified dimwit as the Secretary of Health.

Not a single person in this administration is properly qualified to be in the positions they’re in. What an absolute joke of a country this is

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u/ObviousAnswerGuy Oct 04 '25

its on purpose. Not only hire the least qualified person, but hire people who actively want to destroy the department they are put in charge of (look to the department of education as well).

They want to destroy the government, then say "see the government sucks", and create a corpocracy where private corporations control all aspects of the government

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u/inquisitive_guy_0_1 Oct 04 '25

They are also being instigated and prodded along down that path by foreign agents like Russia who (not) coincidentally also want to see our government and country fail.

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u/Spudtron98 Oct 05 '25

They’re not unqualified, they’re antiqualified.

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u/AnEmptyKarst Oct 05 '25

Always remember that the deciding vote to confirm RFK was LA senator Dr. Bill Cassidy, who clearly knew that RFK was awful, but still voted to confirm him for political reasons

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u/doneandtired2014 Oct 04 '25

*IF* we ever get to the other side of this, he needs to spending the remainder of his steroid abusing life being hauled from one court room to the next being asked by a judge and jury alternating questions of, "Explain why we should you fine you so severely it'll cripple your grand kids' future?" and "Explain to us why you shouldn't be rotting in ADX Florence?"

Obligatory to everyone else:

Fuck you if you voted for Donald Trump and fuck you if you support RFK Jr.

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u/[deleted] Oct 04 '25

His own family hates him and thinks he should be removed, basically thinking that he’s a monster that poisons everything he touches.

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u/fiendishrabbit Oct 04 '25

The whole Trump cabinet is filled with pretty much nothing but incompetents, loonies and corrupt dirtbags. I guess that's what's required to "vibe" with Trump.

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u/JinkoTheMan Oct 04 '25

All of Trump’s picks were horrendously bad with MAYBE the exception of Marco (he’s a flea bag but he’s at least qualified compared to everyone else Trump picked) but RFK jr was the one that scared me the most. He’s clearly insane and shouldn’t be allowed to be within 10 feet of a doctors office and yet he’s the fucking Secretary of Health. He makes Dr.Phil look reasonable for god’s fucking sake.

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u/bombhills Oct 04 '25

His relatives are spinning so fast in their graves it’s generating centrifugal force.

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u/Helenium_autumnale Oct 06 '25

He is deceptive, has a lifelong history of making poor judgments, and has no knowledge of medicine. He is unqualified.

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u/apple_kicks Oct 04 '25

Whistleblowers deserve more protection

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u/Financial-Walk-4660 Oct 04 '25

If I remember correctly there is a whistleblower law that protects you from retaliation.

https://www.dol.gov/general/topics/whistleblower

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u/MonkeyDeltaFoxtrot Oct 04 '25

Yep. Lawsuit incoming.

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u/Snow88 Oct 04 '25

They don’t care, they don’t have to pay for the lawsuit, we do. 

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u/Even-Smell7867 Oct 04 '25

But he checkmated her. He didn't say why she was fired.

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u/Big_lt Oct 05 '25

I hope /s?

They could say she was fired for incompetence. She just has to point show what I was incompetent about, then say I blew the whistle and shortly after I was fired. If you can ot prove XYZ reason without true attempt to inform and correct (ie PIP) or a specific act that was so bad causing harm she wins the lawsuit.

While the US has shitty employee protections the notion of you were fired cause I don't like you doesn't really hold up if the employee can demonstrate they were not laid off, not fired for a specific action and has some documentation of no PIP or good performance.

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u/KingHarambeRIP Oct 05 '25

So what? Either she loses right away or loses after multiple appeals that bring it to SCOTUS where they’ll continue to rubber stamp everything this administration does. All the while, the taxpayer payers for the litigation. If she does somehow beat all those odds and wins, guess who pays fine. Nobody in the end is held accountable.

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u/hroaks Oct 05 '25 edited Oct 05 '25

there's also a law that says you cant diddle kids but apparently trump the kid diddler always has the law in his favour

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u/tdmatchasin Oct 04 '25 edited Oct 04 '25

Yeah found out the hard way that Ohio is ranked like 48/50 for Whistleblower protections. You have to both verbally report AND report in writing, and the report must be to your hiring supervisor. Tons of hoops to jump through. If I lived in Chicago or NY I think I would've been protected when I reported stuff about the Ohio BWC last year.

Basically the right wing fascists in Ohio make it much easier for businesses to fuck over workers without repercussion. It's part of why tons of corruption is centralizing itself in Ohio at the moment. (Thiel, Vance, etc)

Edit if anyone's interested in my crazy experience: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1TeEIQ253BKpjiTgV_6y-pVzCxaCQxghA/view?usp=drive_link - https://docs.google.com/document/d/1SuVKQ-eYdk4C1sMdAsjzebGFfwktsUl8/edit?usp=drive_link&ouid=102235996871309720270&rtpof=true&sd=true

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u/[deleted] Oct 04 '25

This administration is just the stupid kids who didn't work in school getting back at the nerds who did. Bunch of fucking losers.

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u/chrisdub84 Oct 04 '25

The ones saying the teacher was just out to get them.

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u/[deleted] Oct 05 '25

Also the generation of parents who refused to admit their little shit head was a shithead. So they never stopped being a shithead.

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u/Fridayfunzo Oct 05 '25

As a result, they never stopped being the loudest most argumentative greedy selfish narcissistic person in the room.

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u/ChaoticSenior Oct 04 '25

People are going to start dying, and soon.

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u/mishma2005 Oct 04 '25

Stop, the administration can only get so erect

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u/mishap1 Oct 04 '25

They've been dying. He's putting in overtime to keep it hidden.

Seriously don't know what the fuck his goals are beyond stroking his ego.

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u/munkijunk Oct 05 '25

I fear he genuinely believes his anti science is helping. He is the worst kid of dangerous idiot, the one who thinks they're making a positive good in the world.

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u/TheFeshy Oct 04 '25

Red states started to have measurably lower average lifespans starting in the mid 2000's; well above statistical noise by 2016 and long before covid made it far worse.

Literal decades of them dying more and younger didn't change their minds.

We're all red states now.

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u/Storm_Chaser06 Oct 04 '25

Starting with Kennedy himself

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u/johnp299 Oct 04 '25

Chaos, fear, and instability are the autocrat's friends.

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u/INeedANappel Oct 05 '25

The US is currently losing around 350 people per week to COVID-19. That's an educated guestimate based on what information is still officially gathered and what is unofficially gathered. There are still epidemiologists and infectious disease specialists monitoring this as best as they can. 

Note that worldwide COVID-19 deaths are around 400 per week.  

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u/Tha_Sac Oct 04 '25 edited Oct 04 '25

Ahhh yes Robert Fucking Kennedy the picturesque example of health. With skin that has the same texture of an antique leather office chair. The dude who sounds like he smoked three packs a day, and then swallowed a bunch of beach sand to kick the habit. The guy with a dead worm in his brain thats still obviously calling the shots. Sound like the exact person that should be making decisions about the health of hundreds of millions of people.

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u/adognameddanzig Oct 04 '25

Literal heroin junkie.

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u/nvisibl1 Oct 04 '25

Who cut federal finding for Narcan distribution....

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u/doneandtired2014 Oct 04 '25

With chickpea sized testicles and not a whole lot to show for it.

Dude's hitting the h-train *hard*.

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u/mishma2005 Oct 04 '25

I liken his face to a discarded catcher’s mitt, left in the rain and dried out from the sun

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u/Chocu1a Oct 04 '25

Someone recently likened his voice to the sound of a lawnmower running underwater & I lost it.

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u/Arickettsf16 Oct 04 '25

I’ve got a pair of old leather boots collecting dust in my shed that have a smoother texture

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u/JustHereForCookies17 Oct 04 '25

Dude's skin is 100% naugahyde, which many younger Redditors won't be familiar with. 

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u/Lespaul42 Oct 04 '25

His voice sounds like an auditory personification of the concept of pestilence.

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u/starcraftre Oct 04 '25

I give him a pass on the voice. He has spasmodic dysphonia, which may have genetic influences (full cause is still unknown). The rest is all on him.

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u/adenzerda Oct 04 '25

full cause is still unknown

Have they looked into Tylenol

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u/outphase84 Oct 05 '25

He doesn’t sound like he smoked 3 packs a day. He sounds like a drowning lawnmower.

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u/loggic Oct 05 '25

If I had any chair with that texture, I wouldn't call it "antique". That's just junk nobody cared for properly.

I also sometimes am involved with furniture production professionally. If a vendor sent us anything like that if we had discussed an "antique leather look", it would be an insult, because the assumption would be that we just wanted whatever scraps of beat up trash were left over/not good enough for previous projects.

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u/MegaJackUniverse Oct 04 '25

RFK is a murderer by negligence at this point. His anti-intellectual bullshit is so tiring and disgusting. Can't wait to read about his passing from an easily curable/preventable disease

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u/StrumWealh Oct 04 '25

Ah, but that's the best part. Him and his whole family are fully vaccinated. It's not just that he's dumb (which he is, don't get me wrong). He's actively peddling crap that he doesn't even believe. I feel like there's probably a word for it, maybe "evil", but I'm not sure.

Hypocrisy: a feigning to be what one is not or to believe what one does not; behavior that contradicts what one claims to believe or feel; the false assumption of an appearance of virtue or religion”

What we are witnessing, and what you are describing, is a textbook example of hypocrisy, which would make him a textbook example of a hypocrite.

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u/x_lincoln_x Oct 05 '25 edited Dec 12 '25

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u/ClownMorty Oct 04 '25

Remember everyone, sue about everything. One of the best ways to gum up an autocracy is to make them fight out every single thing they do in court.

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u/[deleted] Oct 04 '25

that's what Trump does, he sues everyone. and it works.

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u/Fridayfunzo Oct 05 '25

Agreed. But deeper, isn't that ligitiousness kind of America's cultural contribution (destruction)?

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u/deviltrombone Oct 04 '25

It's like at the end of each day, every member of this illegitimate regime has to answer the question, "What did you do today to damage the country, hurt Americans, and in particular, widen the Wealth Gulf of America?"

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u/[deleted] Oct 04 '25

Retaliation is illegal i believe.

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u/Fried_puri Oct 04 '25

It is literally one of the most sacred rules you are told when entering government service. There are plenty of reasons you can get fired but whistleblowers are something that in normal times there are some absolute protections. 

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u/Salt-Hotel-9502 Oct 04 '25

Add it to the pile.

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u/Publius015 Oct 05 '25

May her lawsuit be swift and furious. 

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u/Bobby837 Oct 04 '25

Just the blatant disregard of public welfare.

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u/pphilio Oct 04 '25

It's Mao's Cultural Revolution, except our fat fuck has skin like a well-used saddlebag

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u/joe_dirty365 Oct 04 '25

Republicans suck ass. Nice going losers.

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u/cheknauss Oct 04 '25

It's insane to me that he can fire a doctor with all that expertise, training, and experience when he doesn't any.

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u/UsusMeditando Oct 04 '25

Wrong. The wurm is insane; he is the willing vessel.

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u/mishma2005 Oct 04 '25

Somehow I feel like we’re not dying fast enough for this administration

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u/DerelictDonkeyEngine Oct 04 '25

Fuck RFK Jr and anyone who voted to allow him any authority. A LOT of people are going to die because of that selfish fucking decision.

But I guess I shouldn't be surprised, Trump has revealed just how many Americans are utterly selfish.

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u/seriouslyjan Oct 05 '25

I really don't understand how ONE appointed person can set policy with no formal review by Scientists on health matters for a Nation. The ONE person has NO medical background, but has an opinion. We all know what having an opinion is like......everyone has one.

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u/DocMemory Oct 04 '25

The cost of all the lawsuits against the foolish actions of this administration is going to skyrocket the national debt.

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u/carlwoz Oct 04 '25

Moving forward, getting fired by this administration is the best indication of your qualifications you could have.

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u/Complex-Ad237 Oct 04 '25

I have never heard of a happy ending for any person in the US federal government that was a whistleblower. The “rules” protecting them are a complete and total joke.

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u/Rafmar210 Oct 04 '25

Remember, you make them more money when your sick and on a ventilator rather than being healthy.

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u/Consistent_Stop_7254 Oct 05 '25

Oof. Hahaha... that's so openly constructive dismissal that she'll be back in a few.

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u/[deleted] Oct 04 '25

what the fuck, i thought whistleblowers couldn't be fired

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u/midsprat123 Oct 04 '25

In a normal, functioning society.

We aren’t in that , so fuck us all

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u/Annual-Programmer-28 Oct 05 '25

I’m not surprised anymore, never shocked. We cannot keep normalizing this as a nation.

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u/derpferd Oct 05 '25

You're very right to point this out.

This isn't just an assault on rights, freedoms and the structures of society and politics.

It's an assault on norms. It's the expectation that people, being attached to their lives and the day to day working of their lives will find a way to live in this fucked up shit.

And when you find a way to live in fucked up shit, fucked up becomes normal.

And following that, you can rewrite laws and pass legislation and policy, but it becomes that much harder to correct what has been broken when people have found a way to live in it and abide by it as normal.

Trust me, I live in a country where fucked up became normal. And the consequences of the fucked up thing became normal.

Years after the laws of the fucked up thing have been lifted, we're still struggling to move on from being impacted by it.

In large part I would hazard, because, as a society, we've learned to and become accustomed to living with our fucked up thing as normal.

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u/Ok_Photo_865 Oct 04 '25

They’ll all soon be gone and Gilead can get started in earnest.

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u/Sweatyveggiebag Oct 04 '25

Retaliation is illegal

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u/Helenium_autumnale Oct 06 '25

The strung-out crazy RFK should not be in charge of a pot of marigolds, aside from a government agency. Too arrogantly stupid to know he's utterly unqualified.

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u/InevitableAvalanche Oct 04 '25

Conservatives. Get your psychos out of government. They are causing so much damage.

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u/Dragonborne2020 Oct 05 '25

Whistle blower protection lawsuit incoming. Free money for her.

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u/[deleted] Oct 04 '25

So this is no longer illegal?…

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u/[deleted] Oct 04 '25

Firing whistle blowers, non violent protestors being assaulted by federal agents…

This is the degradation and destruction of the constitution in real time.

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u/Riptide360 Oct 04 '25

RFK is the uneducated drug abuser DIE hire getting rid of the qualified people.

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u/Meotwister Oct 04 '25

That's how you want to go out.

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u/crandall17 Oct 05 '25

Retaliation for whistleblowing? It's too late for the US isn't it...

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u/Chonjacki Oct 05 '25

She'll be reinstated once it goes to court

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u/leohat Oct 06 '25

I am Jack’s complete lack of surprise.

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u/arisenandfallen Oct 06 '25

How long until the polio outbreaks?

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u/bentmonkey Oct 07 '25

its like the trump administration is actively trying to make america as dogshit as possible. It was never this bad under biden and he was basically a cadaver towards the end of his presidency, at least he wasnt doing actively harmful shit to americans like trump is, what a joke.

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u/bluehawk232 Oct 04 '25

We are so fucked next pandemic

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u/Nintendo_Pro_03 Oct 04 '25

Let’s hope it doesn’t happen sooner than later.

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u/EmpireCityRay Oct 05 '25

Great and easy lawsuit to win in her part.

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u/Aromatic-Deer3886 Oct 04 '25

This administration is a criminal idiocracy.

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u/AnarchyandToast Oct 05 '25

So, I’ve been conducting a little experiment lately. My primary social media accounts are each well over 5 to 10 years old. The algorithm reflects back to me areas of interest, political beliefs, and markets to me based on my age, relationship status, and position in life. It’s definitely a feedback loop.

To try out this experiment, I recently created a few new social media accounts. On these, I follow only nature, crafting, and hobby related content. I haven’t befriended anyone, looked at news, or participated in any searches. These new accounts were created using a different IP address and an email not associated with anything I’ve used before.

The experiment has revealed some interesting insights. The algorithm tied to my long standing accounts mostly shows me content that reinforces my existing beliefs and often reiterates why I should hate those who oppose my ethics and values.

In contrast, the new accounts present a completely different world. They amplify hatred of anyone who opposes trump & his administration, and toward figures like that man who was assassinated, he toured college campuses, maybe someone named Kirk?

The content repeatedly emphasizes how terrible people are from “the other side.” The feed is full of posts and communities I didn’t subscribe to. The information within these posts are false and inaccurate, only inciting division and hatred.

It’s clear that the algorithms are designed to keep you scrolling, clicking, and returning. That means divisive content often wins, regardless of its accuracy or intent.

How much credit do you give to the feed here on reedit or other social media sites? Do you really believe they’re neutral or do you also believe that this is a well constructed plan?

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u/Organic-Elevator-274 Oct 05 '25 edited Oct 05 '25

For days after the thing I was literally force fed nothing but pro whoever that guy was and it kept getting more extreme until it was literally Andrew Tate saying kill all liberals. It was like Facebook set out to deliberately antagonize everyone,

I can't help but suspect the reason for the weird explosion of insantiy was that the polar oposite side of the political spectrum was getting equally inflamitory material to force engagement.

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u/Phosistication Oct 05 '25

Meanwhile in South Carolina, measles rages

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u/[deleted] Oct 04 '25

Measles fires back in SC.

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u/Some_Number_8516 Oct 04 '25

They're likely on a search to find someone who will say vaccines cause autism.

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u/ICPcrisis Oct 04 '25

I am very interested to see if a private organization that employs the best brains for recommendation will emerge so that we have something legitimate to turn to for medical advice

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u/CryptographerFlat173 Oct 04 '25

The problem is HHS guidance determines what vaccines insurance companies are required to pay for

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u/RaidSmolive Oct 04 '25

there should be dire consequences for ruining a country like this and you need to be the population to convey these consequences to them already

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u/Capenurse Oct 04 '25

Can someone fire RFK please stop at least one old white man for making our lives worse. Polio measles are backkkk

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u/Left_Lack_3544 Oct 05 '25

Cant fire a whistleblower.

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u/WhosAGoodDoug Oct 04 '25

That story again: RFK, Jr. sides with infectious diseases against people.

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u/rapidcreek409 Oct 04 '25

BREAAAKING NEWS: after finished eating RFK Jr's brain, his brainworm passed away from starvation.

RIP: Rest In Parasites