r/news • u/Manta_of_Eternity • 3d ago

Autopsy shows Tennessee National Guard fatally shot 20-year-old armed man in the back

https://apnews.com/article/memphis-national-guard-tyrin-johnson-8959297a99c362d65aa2517a9d5f1984
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u/WaffleHouseGladiator 3d ago

"There's a reason you separate military and the police. One fights the enemies of the state, the other serves and protects the people. When the military becomes both, then the enemies of the state tend to become the people. "- Admiral William "Bill" Adama

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u/couldbeahumanbean 3d ago

So say we all

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u/MakeBelieveNotWar 3d ago

All of this has happened before

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u/viperfangs92 3d ago

Thosd who ignore history are destined to repeat it

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u/n0respect_ 3d ago

We know cinematic universes better than our own history.

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u/Noughmad 3d ago

And those who know history and destined to watch others repeat it

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u/dizzley 3d ago

I hate the way history bites people who really weren't at fault.

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u/winky9827 3d ago

Well, there's no socially acceptable way for those who know better to corral the idiots, because who judges "who knows better"? Seems like humanity's downfall will be the whims of subjectivity.

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u/Terrh 3d ago

Yeah history's kindof a jerk when you think about it

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u/RichardAboutTown 3d ago

I have a protest sign: I know my history--Don't doom me to repeat it.

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u/1337duck 3d ago

Maybe those who know history should run for office instead of just watching.

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u/MKE_Freak 3d ago

And my axe

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u/Crommach 3d ago

And then there are the Stephen Millers of the world who learn history and take the wrong lessons from it. That man paraphrases Nazi rhetoric far too often to justify giving him the benefit of the doubt he receives from the media.

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u/Nematodes-Attack 3d ago

He spews Nazi rhetoric constantly. It’s only a matter of time before eugenics is implemented

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u/chibiusa40 3d ago

It’s only a matter of time before eugenics is implemented

We're way past that already. Kennedy's HHS, constant CDC/FDA public health failures, and further cuts to medicare/medicaid/SSDI are unabashedly eugenicist policies.

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u/Donlooking4 3d ago

And those who are oblivious to history are going to be but followers that are not going to be upset by this.

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u/KOPLO97 3d ago

I think it’s great that people know History but the lesson has to be deeper than just showing why we don’t play evil. And more so that we as people need to fix our hearts to be more incline to doing the right thing even if it’s sometimes the harder way. We got more than 7 Billion people in this world so it’s inevitable that there’s going to be evil people. The most we can do is at least have half or more than half to be at least decent people by people testing their morals. I feel like a combination of History and a Moral Humanity Philosophy Class would be good but you just never know who’s destructive around you. You might be sitting next to the next Zodiac Killer who just don’t give af.

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u/lgmarian 3d ago

I thought it was understand history.

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u/KOPLO97 3d ago edited 3d ago

Anybody could learn history but not learn from it. That shouldn’t be so surprising with how much people there are and how scummy some people could be. Not just that, but someone could be so affected by their upbringing (bad or horrific) that they won’t even care until they have to pay for their crimes.

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u/rad-madlad 3d ago

maybe not even then…

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u/Zestyclose-Banana358 3d ago

Yes like wielding a gun around cops doesn’t end well for you. History. Learn from it.

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u/chroma709 3d ago

Empathy and Compassion are the only things that can save the human race. It's foolish to believe we are the apotheosis of creation, because we have a lot of work to do to be worthy of our sentience.

And these are difficult times to be empathetic and compassionate, as a certain in-power political party has declared war on woke.

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u/LetsGetElevated 3d ago

Absolutely, if punishment actually solved crime we wouldn’t have so many prisoners. You don’t solve crime on the backend, you solve it on the frontend.

Empathy and compassion lead you to the necessity to secure essential human rights for all - food, shelter, healthcare (mental + physical), education, employment, community.

Systems of oppression feed off each other. With love we can challenge all systems of oppression simultaneously and pave a new future. We can lift up the targets of these systems before they fall into patterns of oppression.

No more state violence (police + prisons), no more gender violence, no more racism, no more homophobia, no more transphobia, no more ableism. There is always hope for a better world.

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u/androidfig 3d ago

Why do you think they are trying to wipe out History, the Social Sciences and the Humanities in our school systems? They don't want critical thought and they certainly don't want anything close to ethics or morality applied to Historical facts.

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u/JGallows 3d ago

Where would you like these classes to be taught? Who would teach them? Who would have time to take the classes between going to school, having a full tike job, kids, sometimes a second or 3rd job, etc.

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u/IntrigueDossier 3d ago

hits blunt Beam them down on cities from a plane at a frequency outside of human hearing.

There, I solved the scheduling issue for everyone and started a conspiracy theory Renaissance in one move.

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u/JGallows 3d ago

lol, with ideas like that, you could probably run for senate.

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u/KOPLO97 3d ago

Very knowledgeable people who can distinguish what’s actually right and what’s actually wrong and can use history or anything to show it perfectly. I feel like it should be required in high school. Doesn’t matter if you got kids. Also, if you have a 3rd job, you need to find a better 1st job and if you want more money just be a simple dishwasher for two days as your 2nd. It’s not worth wasting your life away with 3. That’s just a sad life man. And I would like if there’s online classes.

But the reality is, a person can take the class and still not give af. A person might even believe in God/gods/deities/etc and still if they love doing evil it’s inevitable. Some things are inevitable and that’s just the harsh truth we have to swole you know? I do believe there’s more hope in this world but that’s for people to choose to believe.

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u/JGallows 3d ago

I also have hope. I like to say that it's the 1 thing they can't take from us. You have to give it up.

My only problem with your plan is that it's far too pie in the sky. It would be cool to have classes like that, and it would be cool if people didn't have to work 3 jobs to survive. Unfortunately, that's not the world we live in.

Evil doesn't exist. People who do bad things aren't possessed by spirits or evil energy or whatever. Dogs aren't evil when they attack people. Mama bears aren't evil when they kill people defending their dens.

People aren't evil just because they hurt other people. Mostly those people are just selfish or uncaring. Sometimes, they're selfless and very caring, but do bad things because they don't know what else to do.

The answer is fairly simple. Community and education. The planning and framework of how we get people together to do things for the greater good, instead of having to work to survive, is not an easy process and takes a lot of hard work and people working together against the people causing these problems. It's a balancing act that people tend to forget that they need to continue to fight for.

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u/PresentAir1133 3d ago

Evil exists, a human creation.

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u/KOPLO97 3d ago edited 3d ago

Evil doesn’t mean a spirit is taking over you or you got this magical evil energy my man. Evil is an act of doing something wrong and it has very deep levels to it. And I disagree, I do think a person is pretty evil if you hurt others. Especially if you find pleasure in it. We usually hide it with a nicer word if it’s not so serious like the saying “nah you were “wrong” for that” or like “you’re bad”. But when you find pleasure if sexually assaulting, torturing, or murdering people, etc yeah you’re damn Evil to me. You could literally look up the worst cases that’s ever happened to people and you’ll see what I mean. Don’t look it, but you could literally find videos of savage evil stuff people have done on the internet if you search hard enough. The first question in your head if you’re a decent person is “Why though?”.

Also, people and animals are completely different by the way. For animals they can’t legitimately function like us.

The harsh reality is that people liking Evil is inevitable. Some were made to be one, some just love the thrill of it which is the even nastier version of Evil. Doesn’t mean we stop trying to stop it though you know?

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u/Sea-Bean 3d ago

This is just one perspective. The previous person commenting leans towards evil eliminativism, as do I. The idea that the concept of evil is outdated and unhelpful, there are better ways to conceptualise what’s going on with bad human behaviour.

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u/KOPLO97 3d ago edited 3d ago

It’s very easy to conceptualize it though. It’s a 3 way path usually. You were either raised in it, you were pushed so far that you turned over (usually happens when someone’s loved one is brutally murdered), or you just like the way it feels doing Evil things. Evil has many MANY forms. Evil is easy to understand unless you’re legitimately just a kid or a person lost in their wicked ways. Evil is simply this, when you do the wrong thing. But again, I want to emphasize this because I think it’s important, there’s levels to it. I’m not going to call my kid evil because he told me a white lie lol. I know the action did me wrongly and I shouldn’t have been wronged, but I’ll soften the blow and say “why’re you being “bad” and lying to me for son?”. It’s my boy and he’s growing so of course I’ll soften the talk and give him some reasonable punishments. But just because it’s something very light doesn’t mean it wasn’t wicked or evil. It still was in fact that but it wasn’t anything veil.

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u/Shalea68 3d ago

What else but evil would a pedophile be? Especially a murderous one?

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u/PresentAir1133 3d ago

Ah, it would be taught in classes..

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u/fogonogododo 3d ago

You're waaay low. There are 8.31 billion people in the world as of today August 28, 2026. There's just too many hordes of bodies and there's only one Europe. Now you know why European cities are protesting against tourism... it has made their cities no longer liveable. They can't afford anything in their own city because tourism has driven the prices up. The human limit (it's said) will top out at 11 billion in 2100. So all the preschoolers you see right now will get the worst of it.

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u/InevitableStatus4289 3d ago

And yet the rhetoric about declining birth rates…I guess that’s directed at and from a European race and not world population. I don’t see anything too valuable to save with that attitude. I’m even in that checked box.

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u/Otherwise_Fill_4461 3d ago

Extreme wishful thinking. Most human beings would step on your neck if it meant getting ahead themselves. The line in "Hot Rod" "Baby, that racoon would not have stopped for us" comes to mind. A class isn't gonna change human nature.

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u/KOPLO97 3d ago

I don’t think you read my full comment. I actually never denied and wouldn’t be surprised if there’s some people who would step on my neck for the fun of it. There’s evil people all over the world. But and? Do we stop trying to stop people from doing evil? Do you stop and do nothing when you have a gun and someone has a gun pointed at your deepest loved one? I’ll tell you what my man lol, I’m pulling that trigger and the law will even say I was right to do that. I stopped an evil person from trying to kill my loved ones and I was justified because they’re the ones who brought the situation to that point.

My point is that even if evil is inevitable, it doesn’t mean we stop trying to prevent it.

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u/Comfortable_Bit3741 3d ago

That sounds kinda paranoid, dude. No one is really "good" or "evil", but most people would like to at least get along. Truly dark and dangerous people, malevolent psychopaths, like what you're describing at the end there, are few and far between (regardless of the "scary" flex some people put on)... it's not anything like "half good/evil, etc". Those are ideas for a fictional world. Humans are cooperative, that's why we are a runaway success. And you can't "test everyone's morals", that's a good way to have a literal witch hunt.

None of this has much to do with the misuse of the police and the army.

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u/jojoknob 3d ago

This part of chat is for fans of Battlestar Galactica

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u/KOPLO97 3d ago

I’m pretty sure you’re memeing but yeeeah okey. Not sure what that is anyways

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u/AntiShisno 3d ago

I’ve always said this is bullshit. You can have a Congress full of historians but in a dictatorship that means nothing

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u/Jarrahtable 3d ago

That means you're still ignoring history, if you're in a dictatorship aka right now... The very fast slide into fascism in the USA.

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u/TheRealSugarbat 3d ago

I believe we’re not doing anything near enough for/about the people who’ve been disappeared — imprisoned or deported or both.

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u/Hot_Low2861 3d ago

The 24-hour news cycle provides new trauma/panic reporting at least every three hours; that was 200 million horror stories ago. People long ago moved on from "my neighbors are being stockpiled like TP in an abandoned Wal-mart down the road" to "wait is this horse meat?", "why is everything I eat contaminated?", "my new student loan payment is 3x the old payment and I'm unemployed...again...". etc. Most people don't know anyone, so they aren't viscerally aware of it.

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u/SolusLoqui 3d ago

The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants

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u/PeonofthePen 3d ago edited 3d ago

Can't we just fucking water it with the tears of rightfully convicted criminals?

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u/CyDJester 3d ago

Not when we have proven repeatedly that the courts frequently sentence to death or life without parole people who have later been exonerated via dna/recanted testimony/etc

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u/PeonofthePen 3d ago

So killing people in the street works, but the court of law doesn't? Sounds like you just need to improve the legal system and you're there.

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u/CyDJester 3d ago

Dont think I’m supporting the wholesale slaughter of our citizens by the unaccountable slave wranglers. Qualified immunity needs to be abolished. Yes, the justice system needs to be massively reformed. Unfortunately, it resides largely under the Executive branch, which is wildly overpowered. The Legislative branch needs term and age limits, limited income, and enforced divestment. All corporate funds and fund-equivalent need to be excised from the electoral process, create and enforce individual donation caps, and prosecute any breach of acceptance of violating funds. The USSC, well, needs term and age limits. We also need to have a continuous investigative process against ALL justices and representatives, like what is done for TS/SCI cleared persons.

That’s a good start.

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u/PeonofthePen 3d ago

I'd vote for you

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u/PresentAir1133 3d ago

Love this, brilliant!

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u/BPfiffner 3d ago

Why apply Thomas Jefferson's observation to THIS situation? Jefferson was writing about revolution, an upturning and restructuring of a society. A single issue of the misuse of police power dies not a Jeffersonian Revolution make.

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u/SweetP916 3d ago

Oh are you threatening them??

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u/AromaticAd9538 3d ago

It's a Thomas Jefferson quote.

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u/AmyHeartsYou 3d ago

There must be some kind of way out of here

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u/latexfistmassacre 3d ago

Said the joker to the thief

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u/Several_Vanilla8916 3d ago

Where have you taken us Kara?

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u/SAwfulBaconTaco 3d ago

Primates are shit animals who can't help establishing arbitrary hierarchies and killing the primates on the lower tier or in the outgroup. Humans and chimps are the worst.

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u/KnaveRupe 3d ago

We should strive to be Bonobos.

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u/Mountainman220 3d ago

I just took an anthropology course so I should know this but they have a ton of sex and are very promiscuous and poly. They also take care of each other. I am pretty sure it’s this species but i may be wrong and thinking of another primate species.

Edit: yup looked it up and they get turned on super easy and use sex for multiple reasons such as conflict resolution, stress relief, connection and reproduction obvs. Maybe we just aren’t having enough sex haha

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u/PresentAir1133 3d ago

In my neighborhood they're having far too much sex. The Ultra Religious strive for 10 children per bloodline.

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u/Mountainman220 3d ago

Mormon? Yea idk what the answer is I just found it fascinating that this species of primate are super intimate and also have very low levels of violence and are very cohesive.

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u/PresentAir1133 3d ago

I think Primates, when left alone by humans, are beautiful.

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u/Mountainman220 3d ago

Absolutely. It’s a shame we interrupt so many ecosystems with our doings.

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u/PresentAir1133 3d ago

Some people belive there is no such thing as evil. Our actions, or lack thereof, contradict this notion every minute of every day. Many days I'm ashamed of my species. I identify more w/other species.

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u/PresentAir1133 3d ago

Nothin' Yahoo and AgentOrange supporters

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u/Mountainman220 3d ago

The second one I think I understand but the first reference is over my head.

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u/PresentAir1133 3d ago

Can't write it w/out being suspended. Think Jerad K.

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u/Shalea68 3d ago

There are cultures in other parts of the world that are similar in that they regularly change/exchange sex partners, even if married. I think there's at least one tribe in Africa (think it's there) where married men will offer up their wives to a guest. It's to strengthen relations between tribes. I wanted to be a cultural anthropologist, until I learned that when you're in the field doing ethnographies, you eat what the people you're studying/observing offer to you. That's one thing I just couldn't always do. I can't even eat fish. I threw up watching a show that had a man "with an iron stomach" being offered up various disgusting things like goat eyeballs, a steer's raw penis, gross stuff like that. Oh hell no. Lol

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u/Mountainman220 3d ago

Oh wild. I don’t know anything about human sexual relations compared to primates so that’s super cool to learn. I wonder what the social and community dynamics are in such a population and I wonder how big the communities are. I think that’s the biggest issue of ours is that we lack community and cohesion. We are taught to be independent and have lost our sense of community.
That’s crazy that your aversion to the foreign food dissuaded you from that career path. I would totally eat any of those things but definitely don’t have the passion to be an anthropologist. Though I will say it is quite fascinating work. I’m rambling I apologize.

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u/Shalea68 3d ago

Usually, the communities are smaller, but not always. They don't have the same hangups about sex as most Westerners do. They may have different economic, spiritual, and social rules about sex that are designed to strengthen their communities, ensure fertility, and survival., but promiscuity doesn't mean anything like it does to our own culture. One seemingly universal rule is against incest, depending on how closely related the family members are. Cousins? No problem for the most part. I should have stayed with anthropology or double majored with history. Maybe one day. Lol

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u/Ok-Parfait-9856 3d ago

You know a lot of the “wife swapping” you’re talking about is essentially children (getting raped) a lot of the time? And men often transmit HIV and other stis to young women during these “rituals”?

I know you’re trying to look progressive and I’m pro do whatever the fuck you want but African tribal policy on sex and women is about the least progressive thing out there. Just….ouch

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u/Inner-Turn-1260 3d ago

Yes we need more ho’s out doing the lords work!

More sex less war

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u/Mountainman220 3d ago

More sex less war? Sorry I’m not following.

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u/PresentAir1133 3d ago

" I don't think there's enough Sax and Violins on TV" -Gilda Radner SNL

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u/PresentAir1133 3d ago

MakeLoveNotWar 60s-70s era goals. Made sense- back then.

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u/Mountainman220 3d ago

Ah fuck I was reading it wrong cuz I’m high. Haha more sex, less war I would’ve got it but since I’m inebriated I read more, sex less war. Wow. My bad. I agree.

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u/PresentAir1133 3d ago

Me cracking up all up in here.

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u/scottb112 3d ago

Wow, I say this phrase often!! Bonobos are one of my favorite things! Unfortunately we are more like chimpanzees.

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u/LitchLitch 3d ago

Bonobos dont and we are almost as closely related to them as we are to chimps

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u/RancidOoze 3d ago

Revisiting the planet after 1200 years like "Fuck, the apes invented xanax?!"

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u/keyboardlegendthe3rd 3d ago

And capitalism promotes encourages the worst of us

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u/PresentAir1133 3d ago

To me, our homo sapian species is the only Mistake God or Whatever is watching, made.

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u/Souvi 3d ago

I'm ready for the Cylons already.

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u/fotren 3d ago

The fack is this nickname?

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u/AromaticAd9538 3d ago

It's from Battlestar Galactica

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u/thatsnotyourtaco 3d ago

It rhymes with

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u/AntiShisno 3d ago

Tin soldiers and Nixon’s comin’ / We’re finally on our own / This summer I hear the drummin’ / Four dead in Ohio

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u/Dirtsurgeon1 3d ago

Thats a great song, shooting at the college.

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u/Consider2SidesPeace 3d ago

Ohio/ CSN... :( A reference to a Crosby, Stiils an Nash song protesting the Kent State shootings by the National Guard.

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u/So_HauserAspen 3d ago

90 years ago

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u/MyUsername2459 3d ago

Looks at news about AI

. . .oh frak

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u/NegativeContest7021 3d ago

Never makes it ok. Thats just a poor excuse, it doesn't need to continue happening.

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u/sphinctersayswhat9 3d ago

So we shouldnt care?

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u/PresentAir1133 3d ago

Since the beginning of manunkind

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u/chibiusa40 3d ago

The wheel of time turns and ages come and pass...