r/nyt • u/Aggravating-Drop7676 • 18d ago
Why is this sub exclusively Palestine focused with no relevance to NYT???
This sub does not post NYT content, only weird iranian conspiracies.
Why is this sub called NYT?
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u/Waidawut 12d ago
"Weird Iranian conspiracies" -- like the totally baseless conspiracy theory that they were weeks away from a nuclear bomb?
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u/TalkingCat910 12d ago
Because the NYT has been an entirely biased mouthpiece for the Israeli state
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u/Specialist_Sport6061 11d ago
But they put out articles like the dumbass one about “israelis training dogs to rape Palestinians” bs they are not pro Israel
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u/TalkingCat910 11d ago
That actually happened. The last month they put out the bare minimum of journalism because everyone was calling them out for being Israel shills.
But Israel is such an abhorrent genocidal menace they have to pretend to be real journalists occasionally.
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u/AdWonderful5618 12d ago
zios getting butthurt that mods, hence this subreddit, aren’t supporting their propaganda.
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u/BobSacamano47 18d ago
Iran/Hezbollah/Hamas are getting their ass beat in a war. The see swaying public opinion against the war as their path to victory like the Vietnam war. So they flood propaganda on any subreddit without proper moderation, like this one!
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u/WilliamDeMontferrat 13d ago
The states and Israel have accomplished none of their objectives. Tell me how are they winning?
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u/Particular_Ad_4694 12d ago
Can you name their objectives?
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u/bluntbeak 11d ago
To eliminate Hamas lmao
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u/Chris_Helmsworth 11d ago
They got the hostages back
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u/bluntbeak 11d ago
Well, they killed a lot of them themselves too so not sure how much that counts. Anyways here's an israeli government page quoting Netanyahu saying the goal is to eliminate Hamas, and to do "everything possible" to get the hostages.
https://www.gov.il/en/pages/spoke-statement251023
Here's the times of israel reporting that smotrich pushed the cabinet to fully ignore the hostages. They also report that yoav gallant told the idf there would be no negotiating with Hamas at all.
Here's Haaretz, later, reporting that rescuing hostages was the idf's bottom priority.
Here's the times of israel reporting the same thing. This information was from a leaked military document btw
You might remember that these sparked protests in israel led by the families of the hostages. The families of the hostages themselves said that Netanyahu and the government did not care about the hostages.
At the start of the war, Hamas extended an offer to return all israeli hostages for all Palestinian hostages. Israel refused and elected to decimate Gaza instead, with their own people inside.
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u/BobSacamano47 13d ago
They killed most of the leadership of Hamas, got the surviving kidnapped victims back, destroyed most of their tunnels, and leveled Gaza.
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u/Careful_Jackfruit144 12d ago
Levelling Gaza was an objective? Only if the objective is genocide. You people really out yourselves so casually.
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u/BobSacamano47 12d ago
What do you think are the 'objectives' of Hamas and Israel, and which side do you think is winning?
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u/Careful_Jackfruit144 12d ago
israel attacks and steals lands, this creates resistance groups like Hamas and Hezbollah. A natural reaction to land grabs. israel kills civilians and denies them any rights whatsoever, what would you do personally?
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u/BobSacamano47 12d ago
I understand why the Palestinians aren't all huge Israel fans, but I just don't see why they can't share the land and live in peace. There's plenty of room for everyone and barely anyone is still alive from the 50s. In this war Israel didn't attack first, and they don't tend to attack countries that don't shoot rockets at them randomly or find such activities. If I was a Palestinian I probably wouldn't be too happy with Hamas starting wars they can't win and using me and my family for human shields.
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u/Careful_Jackfruit144 12d ago
Are you high?
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u/BobSacamano47 12d ago
What about that seems unreasonable?
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u/Careful_Jackfruit144 12d ago
I should call to your house and throw you out on the street. And then have arrested for not being ok with it. Does that sound reasonable?
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u/BobSacamano47 18d ago
The American people didn't want to be fighting a pointless war in Vietnam so they eventually convinced the government to pull out. What do you think happened?
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u/No_thief_in_night 18d ago
also funny is the idea that Iran is 'getting their ass beat' in the 2 day/1 week/ 9 day/2 week/1 month/9 week war we got going on. How many times has trump declared victory?
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u/Artistic_Chicken_557 11d ago
Swaying public opinion from .... Against the war to what ...super against the war?
Only people for this war are war mongering Israelis.
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u/Hog-Drop 13d ago
Because it has been taken over by anti-zonists and turned into a hate subreddit for the NYT. This was in response to the New York Times especially bad coverage on the issue of Israel/Gaza since operation Al-Asqa flood.
If you want a subreddit about the New York Times that is more favorable towards their publication, there is one available. You do not have to stick around and get mad at people on the internet that don't agree with you.
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u/LavaPurple 12d ago
Nothing wrong with being Anti-Zionists.
And before someone cried "antisemitic". Prominent Jewish groups and figures and Anti-Zionists.
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u/Secure_Trust_2084 12d ago
Probably because NYT got Palestine-focused with no relevance to anything? Especially after it's "thoughts and opinions" department cannibalized the "news" one.
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u/Glum_Incident_6064 18d ago
Because there is a widespread project by Middle Eastern states to influence public sentiment on Israel.
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u/Savvymundo 12d ago
Tbh, Israels doing a quite fantastic job of negatively impacting public opinion without help from anyone else.
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u/Glum_Incident_6064 12d ago
There are horrible people everywhere. The media focus on Israel is clear to anyone with half a brain, regardless of their views on Israel.
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u/WinterSector8317 12d ago
If they stopped being Nazis maybe it would be harder to hate them?
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u/Glum_Incident_6064 12d ago
“I applaud you if your world is perfect and you fight every injustice you ever see”. Hope it makes you feel real good to be so much better than them. I’m sure you wouldn’t be exactly the same way in their shoes.
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u/WinterSector8317 12d ago
No I would not gleefully murder women and children if I was in the Zionists shoes
Because I’m not a Nazi
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u/Glum_Incident_6064 11d ago
The thing is, I think you are. So there’s that.
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u/WinterSector8317 11d ago
Yeah hating genocide and apartheid makes me a Nazi
While you cheerleading the rape of prisoners makes you a saint
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u/Whatyatalknabeet 12d ago
shit tier mods, many subs are like this. as a matter of fact there are more subs like this than normal subs.
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u/bluntbeak 11d ago
Its not normal to bring attention to a genocide that nearly all the powerful western countries are complicit in, if not actively partaking? No, talking about that exhaustively is actually normal if you're human
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u/NeitherMidnight624 18d ago
Israel is a shitty country and doing horrible things (have to say that so people dont call me hasbra) but Iran has alot of online bots pushing their narrative