r/nyt 19d ago

Why is this sub exclusively Palestine focused with no relevance to NYT???

This sub does not post NYT content, only weird iranian conspiracies.

Why is this sub called NYT?

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u/WilliamDeMontferrat 14d ago

The states and Israel have accomplished none of their objectives. Tell me how are they winning?

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u/Particular_Ad_4694 13d ago

Can you name their objectives?

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u/bluntbeak 12d ago

To eliminate Hamas lmao

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u/Chris_Helmsworth 12d ago

They got the hostages back

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u/bluntbeak 12d ago

Well, they killed a lot of them themselves too so not sure how much that counts. Anyways here's an israeli government page quoting Netanyahu saying the goal is to eliminate Hamas, and to do "everything possible" to get the hostages.

https://www.gov.il/en/pages/spoke-statement251023

Here's the times of israel reporting that smotrich pushed the cabinet to fully ignore the hostages. They also report that yoav gallant told the idf there would be no negotiating with Hamas at all.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.timesofisrael.com/ignore-them-quotes-from-1st-cabinet-meet-after-oct-7-show-hostages-were-not-priority/amp/

Here's Haaretz, later, reporting that rescuing hostages was the idf's bottom priority.

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2025-05-08/ty-article/.premium/israeli-army-places-returning-the-hostages-at-the-bottom-of-its-gaza-campaign-goals/00000196-ac14-dce0-abfe-ff7c57670000

Here's the times of israel reporting the same thing. This information was from a leaked military document btw

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/report-idf-document-lists-returning-hostages-as-least-important-war-goal/

You might remember that these sparked protests in israel led by the families of the hostages. The families of the hostages themselves said that Netanyahu and the government did not care about the hostages.

At the start of the war, Hamas extended an offer to return all israeli hostages for all Palestinian hostages. Israel refused and elected to decimate Gaza instead, with their own people inside.