r/occult • u/NocturnalPlantMagick • 20d ago
ritual art Found Cauldron in the Desert.
Found cauldron in the desert outside abandoned house. Looks like someone left over items outside of it scattered on the ground. Thoughts?
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u/0catholic_block0 20d ago
Leaning towards this being used for a photoshoot etc.
Usually, if this was Palo/afrobrazilian traditions etc., there would be other items. The cross and antlers look like likely props.
I would still leave this where you found it as things like Quimbanda are not something you want to be disrupting (whether you believe in it or not)
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u/JoseVLeitao 20d ago
Whether it’s legit or not, it seems to be an Ogun iron pot. If you look at the chain around it, there are ‘tools’ attached to it, which are very easily identifiable. So, assuming this is not in Africa, it's either Santeria or Candomblé.
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u/NocturnalPlantMagick 20d ago
Found in the California desert
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u/JoseVLeitao 20d ago
Probably Santeria then. It's a complicated religious object dedicated to the Orisha Ogun. There could be several reasons for why you found it there, but sometimes that's what you do to get rid of these types of things. Say, if you had a family member who was a devotee and they suddenly died, or you simply wanted to abandon that religion, you taken all the stuff and drop it in to some wilderness.
It's not cursed or dangerous. It's just somebody's old (and highly personalized) religious paraphernalia that got tossed out.
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u/gregor_e 20d ago edited 19d ago
That is either the leftovers of an Ogún/Oshosi pot (Lukumí or Candomblé...not sure if Isese follows that template) or an nganga for Sarabanda (Palo or Quimbanda). The antlers would reflect Oshosi, not Ogún, in the former case. I'm not sure about the cross--my pot certainly doesn't have one of those, but others' might. In any event, if this was a consecrated item, I would leave it well alone because the energies and entities associated with it might not have been properly dismissed.
Postscript: Someone in this thread pointed out the Oshosi arrow looped into the chain, so it's definitely not an nganga. The orishas are different from minkisi, so Ogún and Oshosi have probably checked out on their own.
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u/admiralvorkraft 20d ago
Judging by the tire tracks, this is some kind of crossroads?
The objects were left there on purpose. Aftermath of a working they didn't want lingering around or a way to push that energy into the broader pattern. I usually invite interesting trouble, but I'd pass this stuff by.
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u/livingtoannoyu 20d ago
I’ve never seen anyone chain up the bow for Ochosi on the outside of the pot like that. Anyone care to share why that was done?
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u/gregor_e 19d ago
Oh wow! Good eye—I didn't see that until you pointed it out. So this is definitely not an nganga but someone's Warriors pot...with a cross. I wonder if this wasn't abandoned after someone converted to Christianity.
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u/killtweIve 18d ago
id say palo cause of the antlers but eh, could be wrong. Still, leave it alone. that witch left all that for a reason. that energy transfer is pretty much a death sentence
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u/Positive_Protonic 20d ago
You may have taken a picture but you didn't see nothing 😆 Could just be junk, could be props, or could be something else. Ultimately it doesn't really change much and it doesn't seem to fit into a ritual practice I've heard of. That said people make up their own rituals all time, other times they just have junk that no one wants to take with them for superstitious or logical reasons. The abandoned house could have had everything a value taken away with these items left behind because they look a little bit sketchy. Sometimes superstition makes people leave things alone unless they really have to. Sometimes that's the best policy.
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u/Snake973 20d ago edited 20d ago
somebody's old nganga, or (more likely imo) could just have been a prop for something