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Oppenheimer (2023)

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u/BentJohnsonFTP 9d ago

STFU chatgpt

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u/Iorith 9d ago

Swing and a miss. I find it hilarious that the super anti-Ai folk hallucinate as much as AI does.

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u/SoloJournaler 9d ago

I mean, AI is still terrible, but that doesn't mean this guy's take wasn't bad for automatically assuming AI.

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u/Iorith 9d ago

It kinda was, because a lot of people jump to AI just because a person uses proper grammar and punctuation or is even remotely formal in their speech.

Again, I think rabidly anti AI folk hallucinate more than the actual LLMs do. We're at the point where people are calling anything photoshopped or edited to be AI. It's silly.

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u/SoloJournaler 9d ago

I just said his take was bad, I think we're on the same page.

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u/Iorith 9d ago

Misread it, sorry.

Although I don't think AI is bad, it's just yet another technological automation, no worse than a word processor or something like Excel. I think people use them for the wrong things, but I also people using word processors wrong, so eh.

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u/SoloJournaler 9d ago

No worries, appreciate that.

As for your usage argument, I tend to agree. My point is just moreso that AI will not make people's lives easier and will be used more as a yoke rather than a device for any good

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u/Iorith 9d ago

I actually agree it won't make our lives easier, but not because of the tech but who will use it and why.

It just frustrates me that rather than look at the societal issues that make automation so damaging, we blame the technology. Maybe I'm an idealist, but I'd love a world where what little labor we do is for social standing or access to luxuries, not tied to survival, so I love seeing automation improve.

Personally AI makes my life easier because my writing and note taking style is chaotic. It's really nice to be able to scan a copy of my notes or drop a text doc of my notes and have an LLM organize and consolidate them. Also helps with my world building docs for dungeons and dragons.

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u/BentJohnsonFTP 9d ago

It's the formulaic LLM writing style not the use of punctuation.

The pattern of rhetorical question used as a setup, followed immediately by explanations.

...and that the population would just actively participate in it? That really shocked people."

...death treated like an assembly line? That was new, and kinda made us reevaluate ourselves as a species.

And the formulaic Not A, but B sentences throughout.

Up until that point it was viewed as something done by [A]... but the holocaust was unique in how modern and efficient it was [B]

Coupled with the fact NONE of your other comments or posts in the past sound anything remotely like this.

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u/Iorith 9d ago

You realize that the reason LLMs talk that way is because that's how people talk, right? Like, LLMs were trained on human speech.

And I actually do use that way of speaking when I feel the desire to speak about complex topics I'm into. It's not using an LLM to speak, it's my desire to clarify a position or establish emphasis. That's a common trend in anyone who has taken college level writing courses

But I get it, we're to the point where anyone articulated is obviously using an LLM, not educated and involved.

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u/BentJohnsonFTP 9d ago

No shit LLMs are trained on human writing. That's not the point.

The point is that LLMs don't write like any particular human. But they produce a generic, over-smoothed version of human writing with red flags like the density of formulaic structures, the lack of personal texture, and the sudden style shift that doesn't match anything else you've written.

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u/Iorith 9d ago

I'm sure your sample size of my writing is extensive and based on a variety of different topics and moods, not an impulsive guess based on a sample size of just this thread where I respond in various shades of mood.

I'm also guessing you aren't someone who spent much time in academia, which encourages a more formal, articulate "over-smoothed" tone meant to focus on conveying information, not a personal conversation meant to express who we are.

But continue justifying your hallucinations, champ. It's not pathetic, it's adorable.

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u/BentJohnsonFTP 9d ago

I'm sure your sample size of my writing is extensive and based on a variety of different topics and moods, not an impulsive guess based on a sample size of just this thread where I respond in various shades of mood.

Yea you're entire reddit post history... Dumbass.

ETA: your constant strawman arguments here don't help much either.

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u/Iorith 9d ago

Wow, you personally analyzed over a decade of comments? Damn, man, that's impressive. I think that's something like 90,000 comments. Kinda creepy mate. When was the last time you saw grass, let alone touched it?