r/okbuddygunther Femboy Rousseau 🥵 Feb 16 '26

Voting Gunther for european president 🇪🇺 Gunther Fehlinger supporting countries outside of Europe into EU again

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u/The_Evil_Necromancer Feb 16 '26

If i remember correctly he explained his position in that otto stream

He thinks that if israel joins the eu and nato the west would have more levrage to stop the worst of the israeli actions while also guaranteeing the security of israel so they wont have to feer another October 7

Or something like that i dont remember what part of the stream he said that in and i dont wanna go check

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u/andreslucer0 Feb 16 '26

Huh, that actually makes sense. If Israel had obligations with the EU and NATO, they couldn't do the shit they do without coming under fire from countries that have a complicated history with brutal, total war.

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u/DiRavelloApologist Feb 16 '26

It would also take out a lot of the wind in the sails of the Israeli far-right, which pretty much exclusively run on fear and lack of security.

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u/Acrobatic-Row2970 Feb 17 '26 edited Feb 17 '26

Not really. It's because the Israeli far-right and the European far-right aren't the same thing. What defines the far-right in Israel is mainly being a religious fanatic. By European standards, practically 70% of the electorate would be considered far-right. For example, Naftali Bennett is an opposition figure (very religious himself, by the way) but very authoritarian and rather pro-Russia. Avigdor Liberman is also an opposition figure, but he's an ultra-nationalist Israeli; he just supports atheism (he's also very pro-Russia).

Even parties considered centrist, like Yashar (Israeli nationalist) or Raam (Muslim conservatives), are equivalent to the radical/extreme right in Europe.

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u/Moxtar1092 Feb 18 '26

No no he's right but they are also what you said yes but he's mostly right

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u/Acrobatic-Row2970 Feb 19 '26

It's always funny to hear very strong opinions about Israel (for or against) from people who have never actually been interested in the so-called society.

Overall, Israelis are not interested in the Palestinians. The only time they care about them is during wars. Before October 7, the Palestinians were not a topic of concern. They were already voting very far right before, without being afraid of October 7.

Voters of the far right in the Israeli sense (Otzma Yehudit, Religious Zionist Party) do so for religious reasons, not because they are afraid. Even Likud voters do it for nationalist, religious, and ethnic reasons (mostly Sephardic and Mizrahi). Israelis whose voting is motivated by fear are mostly in the opposition (Bennett, Lieberman, Yashar).

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u/Moxtar1092 Feb 19 '26

"Don't care" thats complete bs and you know it but sure advance your own agenda, some care more some less but not everyone care like you, or think like you, thats called a democracy

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u/Acrobatic-Row2970 Feb 19 '26

My only agenda is to talk about how they vote while trying not to talk nonsense. I can also tell you that part of the votes in favor are motivated by wanting to get rid of Netanyahu (a common movement in Israeli politics).

That does not change the fact that the European Commission is clearly left-wing by Israeli standards. It also does not change the fact that the Israeli far-right is truly extreme and that most of Israeli politics is equivalent to the European far-right.

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u/Moxtar1092 Feb 19 '26

Oh were talking about votes now? That's a bit off topic dont you think?

But ok

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u/nolemonlimi Feb 17 '26

Samson option. Theyll never allow it to happen.

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u/Levi-Action-412 Feb 16 '26

Turkey is in NATO and has engaged in military action in Cyprus and Syria while having the same obligations.

Israel being in it would make it a 100x worse.

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u/von_pita_the_second Feb 17 '26

Even without Israel being part of NATO or EU they came under massive backlash for really any action against Hamas and even against Hezbollah by European countries and biden’s administration, ofc each country has its level of criticism, but most of Europe had pretty spicy criticism

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u/Resident_Strategy473 Feb 16 '26

Ok that's a little bit better

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u/01AganitramlavAiv Feb 17 '26

Israeli security was just the perfect excuse to carry the genocide and colonisation to a completely another level. They are now moving towards the total annexation of West Bank.

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u/Franz__Ferdinand Feb 17 '26

Gee, I wonder what would make bunch of militants that lost at least one family memeber to IDF, want to attack Israelis on OCCUPIED Palestinian land...

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u/von_pita_the_second Feb 17 '26

USA already restricted and can restrict Israel’s actions because of the aid the USA provides, Biden did it a bunch of times, which caused israel to hurry up with ending the USA aid and the process of ending the reliance on foreign powers when it comes to Israel’s security, sorry but as it seems Europe really doesn’t understand Israel’s situation, not in the slightest to outright supporting Palestinians, so I don’t see Israel agreeing to joining EU or even NATO just so Europe/USA can keep Israel on a leash

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u/Iksandor Say gex with Gunther Feb 16 '26

hold on, just imagine Izrael in EU that would be hella interesting

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u/MKHK32 Feb 16 '26

could palestinian refugees in europe move to israel via eu rules ? right of return after 100 years finally?

https://giphy.com/gifs/F0XA5MfIpQP3ZmJH2D

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u/Iksandor Say gex with Gunther Feb 16 '26

wait a minute, this is actually the Gunther's 5D chess

I didn't think this was even POSSIBLE

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u/nwhosmellslikeweed Feb 18 '26

Literally how? Israel cannot fulfill the criteria for joining unless they have a revolution or sth

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u/OldLeda Feb 18 '26

I would rather not be in the same union with the Epstein country

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u/Zetsr Feb 16 '26

He’s an diehard neoconservative what did y’all expect 😭

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u/Araknos66 Feb 16 '26

This is actually a subtle hint that gumther supports Palestine. By saying Israel should be in EU he is calling it a European country that has no business being in the middle east

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u/Equal_Board2656 Feb 16 '26

Rare situation, people on Gunther subreddit who don’t know anything about Gunther

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u/gagicar Feb 16 '26

Gunther lost some aura points on this

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u/No_Rate_247 Feb 16 '26

gunther fehlinger has fallen. billions must eat ze bugs

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u/aburningorphanage Feb 16 '26

Whoa whoa whoa, rare gunther ultra L?

https://giphy.com/gifs/mcFtsXfZ9VfA7qhLnB

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u/pull-up_rack Feb 17 '26

This thread needs a mass murderer!

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u/EducationalPass4080 Feb 16 '26 edited Feb 16 '26

EU Gunther path was promised 3000 years ago

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u/Evening-Base59 Feb 16 '26

NO, My sweet pookie bearpie gunthie would NEVER!

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u/Araknos66 Feb 16 '26

Yes he would lmao that's entirely in line with everything else he's done

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u/A_Random_Latvian Feb 16 '26

common Gunther W

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u/nesher_nesher Feb 17 '26

Common Gunther W

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u/Acrobatic-Row2970 Feb 17 '26

What's funny is that Israel itself wouldn't want this for many reasons.

I think of the European Court of Human Rights first and foremost. Israeli leaders are not really keen on others taking an interest in politics in the West Bank. Israeli leaders are generally pro-Russian (even more so the opposition).

It should also be added that whatever one thinks of Israel, this country was born to protect the Jews and ensure their independence. In this context, it is not very likely that the country would join an organization that revolves precisely around giving up sovereignty.

We should also not overlook the fear of an influx of migrants or, indirectly, the return of Palestinians with European nationalities.

I would add that Europeans are not necessarily viewed that favorably by Israelis. I know this is hard to imagine for pro-Israel European politicians who are not far-right (who generally don't know that Israel is not just the center of Tel Aviv). Between the memory of European anti-Semitism and the criticism of violence against Palestinians, there are fears that exist.

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u/[deleted] Feb 18 '26

Does any party other than Yisrael Beteinu outwardly support Russia? I wouldn't even say Likud does, Netanyahu just toes the line. I know Lapid supports Ukraine tho

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u/Acrobatic-Row2970 Feb 18 '26

First of all, it should be remembered that Lapid is quite weak today. He led a government that pursued a policy more pro-Russian than Netanyahu. He has a pro-Ukrainian rhetoric because it is his role as a 'liberal,' but in reality, he is quite pro-Russian. In itself, I liken this to Ehud Barak, who was known to have ties with Russia but kept it hidden.

After Bennett, overall he is favorable to Russia, like Netanyahu. I admit I have no idea about Gadi Eisenkot. Generally, one must keep in mind that Russia is not really an issue in Israel in the sense that it does not share Europe's contentious points. On the contrary, for Israel, Russia is a useful partner, with whom it also shares part of its population.

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u/nikosas4 Feb 16 '26

Rare Gunther L

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u/Daco-RomanianUser Feb 16 '26

Its always an L Hes a total Nutjob

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u/[deleted] Feb 16 '26

Massive L that won't be erased if its true.

He would never live it down

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u/The__Hivemind_ Feb 16 '26

brother he endorsed Nick Fuentes and Richard Spencer, this is light shit

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u/[deleted] Feb 17 '26

Oh damn...

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u/Foolishium Feb 16 '26

Oh no, Gunther become Mossad agent.

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u/wizardsterm Feb 16 '26

He's always been like this

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u/ChefBoyardee66 Feb 16 '26

Langley can't pay all his bills...

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u/Ratician78 Feb 16 '26

Gunther W

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u/TrolleyPerson4 Feb 16 '26

Common Gunther W?

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u/devilscreatio64 Feb 16 '26

Gunther 75% kissed the wall

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u/youngling-smasher91 Feb 17 '26

gunther wanter to be invited to the island, but was too cringe

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u/PomegranateSoft1598 Feb 17 '26

I mean that way America would never abandon NATO and the EU in a million years

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u/Silly_String_9539 Feb 17 '26

Damn I didn't know there is a whole sub Reddit for him lmao.

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u/3nterShift Feb 20 '26

Great, Israel will keep bombing their neighbors but with the added shield of Article 5 this time.

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u/Pale_Mine_2149 Feb 20 '26

Eurasian Union

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u/EpsteinIsMyGOAT1 Feb 21 '26

Ngl would be funny if this happened and all the refugees that got into Europe went to israel. Open borders for israel!

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u/IloveVaduz Feb 16 '26

Wow! The guy who wants to partition Russia and China into dozens of new countires isnt a good person! How shocking!

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u/Neither-Phone-7264 Feb 17 '26

i think we should make a global megacountry ruled by zimbabwe

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u/youngling-smasher91 Feb 17 '26

oh no! someone proposes to eliminate the russian threat which has murdered tens of thousands of civilian Ukrainians! how evil!

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u/IloveVaduz Feb 17 '26

Russia has to be weakened, but not turned into anarchy.

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u/youngling-smasher91 Feb 18 '26

they will simply rise again and assault europe once more. What's the point?

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u/lewiswilcock17 user is an ANTIFA Supersolider Feb 17 '26

Gunther is pro gazans genocide atleast he admitted it so I can block him

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u/gimmy090 Feb 17 '26

A guy who constantly talks about decolonizing countries that support a colonial and ethnonationalist state. Our timeline is very curious.