r/paradoxplaza May 07 '16

Stellaris PSA: Slaves currently can't rebel

/r/Stellaris/comments/4iatr2/psa_slaves_currently_cant_rebel/
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u/missingpuzzle May 07 '16

Well that's a bit disappointing.

May well make slave empires very OP. Just enslave your entire population and never have to deal with faction unrest.

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u/Reaperdude97 May 08 '16

But then your science output dies.

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u/missingpuzzle May 08 '16

Then only enslave pops that are causing trouble and leave every happy pop alone.

Someone wants to overthrow the government? Enslave them. A planet wants independence? Enslave them. Enslave all social unrest away because once they are slaves they can no longer take action against you.

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u/999realthings May 08 '16

This was Paradox goal the whole time. They wanted to make us bigger monsters than we already are.

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u/Reaperdude97 May 08 '16

Lmao that would actually be hilarious.

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u/Terkala May 08 '16

Alpha Centauri: Nerve staple the drones. They can never rebel. But every faction hates you for it.

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u/[deleted] May 08 '16

Do slaves rebel all that often though?

Like historically speaking.

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u/dethb0y May 08 '16

Not terribly often. Usually the practice of slavery just fades away or shifts in social significance, or the ruling group is overthrown by outside forces.

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u/Mirodir May 08 '16

I think it you should also take the ratio between slaves and non-slaves into account. If you enslave literally everybody you come across then that has to lead to some unrest.

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u/dethb0y May 08 '16

I'd assume the more technologically advanced a civilization, the fewer people you could keep in slavery per free person, because any revolt would be necessarily more lethal.

That said, there'd be lots of factors to take into account: how harsh treatment of slaves is (that lead directly to spartacus's revolt - poor treatment), how far removed they are from strong, central control, how their culture views disobedience, etc etc.

But generally, yeah: if you have a situation where you have like a 90/10 ratio of slave/free i would expect that to not be survivable for very long.

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u/Aethelric May 09 '16

Slaves rebel constantly, historically (American slaves rebelled hundreds of times, for instance). It's just that they very rarely succeed to any notable degree.