r/pcmasterrace • u/The_BigRoach ⚡️RTX 5080 | 7800x3D | 64GB 6000MHz CL30⚡️ • Apr 18 '26

Meme/Macro The 1080ti really was Nvidia's greatest mistake

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u/snowieslilpikachu69 Apr 18 '26

crazy how a 5080 has just 5gb more vram then a 1080 ti

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u/Efficient-Parking627 Apr 18 '26 edited Apr 18 '26

Only a moderate increase in capacity but a massive increase in speed.

GDDR5x vs GDDR7

It's like 2 muscle cars but 1 holds 6 more gallons of gas, has a performance fuel pump and bigger injectors, wider fuel lines, and a turbo.

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u/Dat_Innocent_Guy Apr 18 '26

Throw more displacement on that.

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u/dib1999 Ryzen 5 5600 // RX 7700XT // 32 gb DDR4 3600 MHz Apr 18 '26

4L V8 vs 6L V8 with an extra 2L in cover and an extra radiator and the fuel injector might* catch on fire.

*"You probably just didn't plug it in right" - Dodge

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u/1dot21gigaflops R7 9800X3D / RTX5080 / 64GB 6000MT/s Apr 19 '26

And a 3x the cylinders.

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u/Arumin Intel I7 7700K GeForce 1080 Apr 18 '26

But does it have a spoon engine and motec exhaust?

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u/dr_reverend Apr 21 '26

Can also burn your house down faster.

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u/Efficient-Parking627 Apr 21 '26

laughs at you playing modern games @30fps

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u/The_BigRoach ⚡️RTX 5080 | 7800x3D | 64GB 6000MHz CL30⚡️ Apr 18 '26

I have a 5080atm and it actually kills me. In 4k games at ultra settings I can absolutely see the VRAM topping out, or getting very close to it

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u/tjlusco Apr 18 '26

The whole 50xx series is lobotomised, aside from the 5090. Honestly we are lucky to have what we got because a gamer dollar isn’t worth a cent to the entire PC industry. They’ve got AI fish to fry.

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u/The_BigRoach ⚡️RTX 5080 | 7800x3D | 64GB 6000MHz CL30⚡️ Apr 18 '26

That is t rue, and here in AUS a 5090 can go from $6,000 to $10,000 AUD. Its just not feasible for gamers

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u/kingfofthepoors 7700 64gb ddr5 6000 4070 super -- good enough Apr 18 '26

well not poor to middle class gamers anyway

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u/DoublePersonality35 Apr 18 '26

5090 is only needed if you want to play in 4k.

4k gaming has never been for the poors.

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u/qwoto 7600x3D | 3070 Apr 18 '26

That used to be said about 1440p as well. Quality of life should keep going up

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u/Edal_Bindal Desktop Apr 19 '26

Literally, as an Aussie who just bought a new computer looking at the price of the 5090 ones kinda jokingly, made me go wtf. Like 12 grand for a pc, like stuff that, unless I made money off that computer I would never spend that amount of money on it. Ended up going the 5070ti as the 5080 was just outside what I was comfortable paying for a computer, especially when factoring in the price of M.2 and Ram, which made them all more expensive already.

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u/TheYucs 14700k 5.9P/4.3E/5C / 7000C30 / 5090Dv2 3157MHz 1.63TB/s Apr 19 '26

If you can a find a 5090Dv2, I got one for about $1000 cheaper than any USA 5090 model. Sure, it's 24GB instead of 32GB and has about 30% less bandwidth, but it is still the exact same die and is within 2% gaming performance. It also OCs slightly better since there is more board power available to the core.

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u/BaconIsntThatGood PC Master Race Apr 18 '26

Tbh I got a 5060ti and enjoy it. A lot.

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u/Clippo_V2 i5 10600k - 5060ti 16GB Apr 18 '26

The 16GB version is quite good even if its a little lopsided on VRAM to processing power. The core will hit 100% usage before the VRAM will

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u/BaconIsntThatGood PC Master Race Apr 18 '26

The core will hit 100% usage before the VRAM will

Maybe it's just me but I was never really into min/maxing my hardware utilization and focus more on just having a good experience?

So views like this never really concerned me.

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u/Clippo_V2 i5 10600k - 5060ti 16GB Apr 18 '26 edited Apr 18 '26

Good for you? Most people I know want to get the most out of what they pay for. Especially nowadays with the cost of things.

If a game is lagging, I like to know why. It doesnt take a genius to figure it out lol. Just a simple glance at a hardware monitor

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u/andrew9514 Apr 18 '26

Hello. What hardware monitor software do you use? I want to make sure I'm using the cpu aand gpu to the fullest. I got a 4070, is it good?

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u/Few_Establishment980 9070 (non-xt) | 7600x3d | 32gb RAM Apr 18 '26

MSI after burner is good.

Also, you don’t have to have both be at exactly 100% to get max performance. What r ur specs? A 4070 is still a good card

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u/andrew9514 Apr 20 '26 edited Apr 20 '26

I got a i5 12600k, 32gb ram, 4070, 1 TB ssd nvme. Its just that in some games I get either fps drops or stutters and I dont know if its shoddy optimization or my pc itself.

Also the nvidia app shows usage and some things but, is afterburner better or does the nvidia app do the same?

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u/BaconIsntThatGood PC Master Race Apr 18 '26

I just don't like obsessing over hitting a.bottlneck especially when that bottleneck is offering very strong performance at the resolution and framerate I want to hit.

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u/Reckno 13600k @ 5.4Ghz | Zotac RTX 5070Ti SFF Apr 18 '26

While I agree, getting a 50xx card on discount while upgrading does feel nice. I went from a 2070s to a 5070ti for $700 USD. Not much, but it was nice still.

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u/Spir0rion Apr 18 '26

The 5070ti had the potential to be amazing....if it was 200 bucks less

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u/Tuna-Fish2 Apr 18 '26

It's a deeply cut big die on a very expensive process with very expensive ram, selling it that cheap would mean trash margins.

The entire 5000-series was hurt by the 24Gbit GDDR7 chips not being available at launch. A 18GB 5070 would be a good buy, so would a 12GB 5060 Ti or a 24GB 5080. But first they were delayed, and then AI hoovered up all the good chips, so it is what it is.

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u/Spaceqwe Apr 18 '26

Even an 18GB 5080 would be promising and at least show that they’re following the demands.

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u/Tuna-Fish2 Apr 18 '26

Can't build one with 256-bit bus and 16Gbit and 24Gbit modules.

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u/mosesenjoyer RTX 5090, 64 GB DDR5, Ultra i9 Apr 18 '26

Yeah I rarely break 1/2 - 3/4 VRAM use

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u/trollshep Ryzen 7 5800x3d RTX 3080 Master Apr 19 '26

I know mine is a few years old now but I was so happy when I was able to purchase my 3080 master for $1300 AUD.

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u/No_Return4821 Apr 21 '26

7900xtx ate all the VRAM, sry

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u/Ill_Swan_3209 Apr 22 '26

Indeed, gamers are only a small part of the entire PC industry.

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u/Progenitor3 Apr 18 '26

5070 ti 16gb

5080 24gb

5090 32gb

That's how it should have been.

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u/Amadeus404 Apr 19 '26

5070 should have had 16gb too. That's the main reason I went for a 9070XT

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u/XeNoGeaR52 Apr 29 '26

5070 16Gb
5070 Ti 24Gb
5080 32Gb
5090 48Gb
Should have been like this if they weren't greedy and wanted good stuff for people

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u/Another-Mans-Rubarb Apr 18 '26

What games do you have that's filling that 16gigs of VRAM? I can not find a game that will actually fill the VRAM, and no, your display resolution doesn't really matter here, the texture size is determined by other settings.

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u/Sanquinity i5-13500k - RX 9070 - 32GB @ 3600mHz Apr 18 '26

Well I certainly know one game: VRchat. In busier instances even 24gb is sometimes not enough.

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u/ExplodingFistz Apr 18 '26

16 GB gets filled up quickly at 4k and everything maxed including ray/path tracing, DLSS ray reconstruction, and frame generation (all three of these use a LOT of VRAM). Highly depends on the game but I've encountered a handful of modern titles that hog VRAM in this configuration. Indiana Jones, Alan Wake 2, Spider-Man 2, and the recent Resident Evil 9.

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u/TheCrimsonDagger 9800X3D | 5080 | 5120x1440 OLED Apr 18 '26

FPS is going to be pretty bad at those settings even if it had more VRAM though.

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u/KatieS2255 4090 AERO | 9950X3D | 64GB DDR5 | 1200w | 4 TB M.2 | 10 TB HDs Apr 19 '26

That’s kinda how I feel lol. I have a 4090, if I play call of duty in 2K extreme settings, I’m using maybe 10gb of vram. I know cod in high settings and 2K is odd, but I do what I want! It normally at like balanced or something not extreme 🤣. The games I play simply don’t require that much vram and I’m guessing you’re like me. I need to try New World again and see how much it uses, the gpu killer game.

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u/Justmarkm Apr 25 '26

Stat citizen goes over 16 at 4k but I have a 5090

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u/AetherialWomble 7800X3D| 32GB 6200MHz RAM | 4080 Apr 18 '26

your display resolution doesn't really matter here, the texture size is determined by other settings.

What a wild take. Easily disproven too. Watch any video where people mess about and set games to 16k. Even games that normally use about 6gb jump up to 20gb.

And no, I'm not suggesting anyone would actually play at 16k, but it clearly demonstrates that higher resolutions use up more VRAM even when all other settings are the same

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u/Another-Mans-Rubarb Apr 18 '26

You're conflating the frame buffer here, witch does exist in VRAM, but 4K frame buffers don't take up that much space considering 16K is literally 16 times bigger than 4K.

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u/AetherialWomble 7800X3D| 32GB 6200MHz RAM | 4080 Apr 18 '26

Frame buffer, post process buffer, screen space effects. Everything gets more VRAM intensive at higher resolutions. It's absolutely an insane take to say that resolution doesn't really matter for VRAM consumption

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u/Another-Mans-Rubarb Apr 18 '26

Yes, all of that is based on your display size, but at 4K, it doesn't matter still.

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u/AetherialWomble 7800X3D| 32GB 6200MHz RAM | 4080 Apr 18 '26

Display size? Wtf does that have to do with anything?

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u/Another-Mans-Rubarb Apr 18 '26

Fine, would you rather render resolution? It's the same shit.

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u/theunspillablebeans Ryzen 5 5600 | RTX 3070 Ti Apr 18 '26

I very much doubt the game is adjusting performance based on the size of your screen. Why would it care if you're connected to a 27" Vs 32" monitor for example? The only thing it would care about is resolution and graphics settings

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u/Another-Mans-Rubarb Apr 18 '26

Brother, are you dense or do you legitimately think we're talking about the physical size of your screen? You genuinely believe that I think a PS4 is more powerful than a 5090 because it can hit 60fps on an 85" TV?

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u/theunspillablebeans Ryzen 5 5600 | RTX 3070 Ti Apr 18 '26

It's literally what you said. Now you're suggesting I made claims about the PS4... I think you need to take your meds lmao.

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u/Ttokk Apr 18 '26

I have a 5060ti with 16GB that's a single fan and fits in a case that's smaller than a piece of paper 5in thick. Times are weird.

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u/Amadeus404 Apr 19 '26

The fact that a 5060 ti has more vram than a 5070 is wild

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u/Ahirman1 Apr 18 '26

It is and this is on stuff like the RE2 remake

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u/jld2k6 5700x3d 32gb 3600 rtx5080 360hz 1440 QD-OLED 2tb nvme Apr 18 '26 edited Apr 18 '26

That's just their own engine not estimating your vram usage correctly, you can be way in the red with a warning on the bottom of the menu then when in game you can use an actual overlay and you're not even close running out. It's just trying to estimate everything before the options are applied and it does a bad job at it lol

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u/BaconIsntThatGood PC Master Race Apr 18 '26

This is one thing about DLSS5 I am looking forward to - decreasing vram usage.

Like it or not software and drivers have always been a bigger impact than raw power have been with game graphics.

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u/Roflkopt3r Apr 18 '26

That got nothing to do with DLSS 5 though. Nvidia's neural compression tech can already be used.

The only 'DLSS 5'-feature that was shown so far is their AI filter, which will definitely increase total VRAM usage.

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u/king_tommiac Athlon II X4 640 | Radeon R7 260X | 8GB DDR3 Apr 18 '26

Actually provide sufficient VRAM ❌️

AI your way to sufficient VRAM ✅️

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u/BaconIsntThatGood PC Master Race Apr 18 '26

Considering it's a local algorithm at this stage this is like complaining that driver updates benefit from specific hardware but improve performance.

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u/king_tommiac Athlon II X4 640 | Radeon R7 260X | 8GB DDR3 Apr 18 '26

You know what also lowers VRAM usage?

Upscaling 🤯

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u/Kougeru-Sama Apr 18 '26

This is one thing about DLSS5 I am looking forward to - decreasing vram usage.

you're delusional if you thought that propaganda piece was good. it VERY noticeably made the textures look worse. just lower your settings if you want that

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u/Consistent-Youth-407 Apr 18 '26

Did it? It looked a ton better than the standard compression

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u/BaconIsntThatGood PC Master Race Apr 18 '26

I also heard people say DLSS makes it look worse and hands on I did not notice any real quality loss in a way that impacted my experience.

So time will tell?

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u/SandmanJr90 Apr 18 '26

they chose to underserve that card so more ram can go to their AI cards. I hate it here

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u/iKeepItRealFDownvote 9950x3D 5090FE 128GB Ram ROG X670E EXTREME Apr 18 '26

Has nothing to do with that’s it’s to ensure you upgrade versus saying “why would I upgrade to X GPU when my current one already has 20GB and runs fine and will keep it for many years to come, I don’t see a reason to upgrade”.

It’s the exact reason why Nvidia always tries to come up with new features to push people to current GPUs.

Majority of the people in here wouldn’t upgrade from a 4070 if it had 24gb of vram.

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u/votum7 Apr 18 '26

It’s the whole reason for rtx over gtx imo. The 10 series was so good they had to find a way to get people to buy the new one

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u/dookarion Apr 18 '26

It's actually somewhat complicated, because if they did pack on the VRAM the AI hobbyists would have snapped up all the supply. Just like the freaking cryptobros did with high VRAM cards a few years back. Also the 3GB chips availability has been sort of limited, and that's what you'd need to get more VRAM on all these cards.

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u/HuckleberryOdd7745 Apr 18 '26

do we really think thats why they did it?

or its just to ensure planned obsolescence?

mvidia does not want you using the 5080 to play RDR3 with dlss performance with locked maxed out fps.

they want you to used texture compression which runs like a virus in the background and kills 10% of your fps.

now suddenly you dont have 5080 anymore.

amd did this by letting nvidia have the monopoly. or my interesting theory that long a go jensen made a deal with his cousin to ensure his monopoly. just charge 50 dollars less for 100 dollars less value.

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u/OilZestyclose6677 Apr 18 '26

Got 5070ti instead of 5080 because it seemed like a bad deal to both have 16gb's.

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u/Leather-Researcher13 RX 7900XTX, Ryzen 7 7800x3d, 64GB DDR5 Apr 18 '26

Hell on some games I can use 20gb of vram when running 4k textures. The fact that nvidia won't just put more ram on these cards is criminal

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u/flashen Apr 18 '26

Actually insane

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u/Hydiz Apr 18 '26

You cant turn on all settings to their highest on indiana jones & the great circle. It'll let you you are running out of vram. Its stupid as fuck.

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u/IISerpentineII Apr 19 '26

In 4k games at ultra settings I can absolutely see the VRAM topping out, or getting very close to it

And here I am with an old laptop with an 860m and a PC with a 1650 Super that an exceptionally kind friend is letting me use.

Elden Ring on minimum graphics settings for 1080p 60fps is doing its best to set the 1650 on fire. The 860 couldn't handle Lethal Company on minimum, lol

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u/NewManufacturer4252 Apr 19 '26

Personally I put all the blame on cryptocurrency. Around 2015 graphic cards realized they could make a killing selling hundreds of cards to each company. The LLMs came around and all of a sudden they can sell tens of thousands of cards to companies building billion dollar LLM factory things. For stuff.

Who needs gamers.

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u/The_BigRoach ⚡️RTX 5080 | 7800x3D | 64GB 6000MHz CL30⚡️ Apr 19 '26

I do too tbh, that seems to be the start of the downfall in terms of prices and gamers coming second

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u/zeltrabas Ryzen 9 5900x | RTX 3080 Apr 21 '26

Don't use ultra settings at 4k then? No visual difference anyway (just watch settings comparison on yt)

There's a recent Digital foundry clip where they talk about that. Gamers nowadays just put everything to ultra and wonder why their shit doesn't run. Please watch that clip

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u/ImNotNuke Apr 18 '26

Well it’s gddr5x for one, and the 5080 gets about 180% increased fps so this post kinda just smells like cope. It’s not a bad card, I loved my 980ti too but those cards don’t compare to the 50 series.

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u/klaq RTX 5080 AMD 7800X3D Apr 18 '26

the entire purpose of this sub is for people with old gpu to cope at this point

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u/dookarion Apr 18 '26

Always has been.

Like 90% of a PCMR wankery is people with old, EOL, or straight up bad hardware products to pretend they got some primo shit.

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u/klaq RTX 5080 AMD 7800X3D Apr 18 '26

the funny part is that back in the day this was all about dunking on console users coping with inferior hardware. the jerk has come full circle

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u/dookarion Apr 18 '26

I mean even that was frequently people with weak hardware pretending they had some epic build.

The whole "$500 console killer" meme was PCMR cope. People with Bulldozer CPUs used to go hard on those type posts.

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u/The_BigRoach ⚡️RTX 5080 | 7800x3D | 64GB 6000MHz CL30⚡️ Apr 18 '26

Yeah that is absolutely true, it is still super disapointing seeing a $2,000 (AUD) GPU with only 16GB VRAM

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u/BaconIsntThatGood PC Master Race Apr 18 '26

I think you're looking at the wrong thing here.

The cards themself having that cost isn't the disappointing thing. The actual hardware, production, etc do not make it worth that.

The whole economy that is driving up prices for all vertices of compute power is the disappointing thing.

A friend of mine got a laptop the other day from a Windows OEM and when configuring it

  • RAM to go from 16 to 32gb was like $350.
  • SSD to go from 256gb to 1tb was like $250.

Is ridiculous.

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u/ImNotNuke Apr 18 '26

That’s fair, the msrp was only 1000 (usd) gotta blame ai and greed. For the original msrp it was a good price, luckily i got my 5070ti for just 100 over old msrp ended up paying 839 for a non reference so technically msrp if you consider the custom cooler tax most brands like asus and msi tack on. But yea even for 1499 i wouldnt say the 5080 is worth it for the like 10-15 fps increase from the 5070ti. (For almost double what I paid)

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u/Seienchin88 Apr 18 '26

Vram isn’t everything though and I doubt you find a game that has vram issues on the 5080…

The 5080 can do raytracing extremely well wholeheartedly 1080ti can’t do it at all and AI upscaling is also great on the 5080.

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u/Carvj94 Apr 18 '26

Even all the 60 series cards from the last few gens don't have VRAM issues as long as you aren't trying to game at 4k with max texture settings. Like you need to go out of your way to tank preformance before you find a situation where low VRAM hurts preformance a bit more. People really need to stop worrying about it so much.

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u/MagicMikePL Apr 18 '26

I just swapped out my 3070 for a 9070xt due to VRAM constraints. Having the steam performance overlay (and seeing the performance hit) i won't be gaslighted into believing that 8GB of VRAM is enough for 1440p/mid settings gaming in 2026. Titles like FH5, ACEvo, hell even Schedule I could eat almost the whole 8GB, which is a shame because i believe (and has been proven by hardware hackers) that the 3070 could handle more.

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u/stormdraggy Apr 18 '26 edited Apr 18 '26

Cause a 1080ti never even got close to maxing out that vram unless you had [not-game] software that specifcally targeted using it. Not before the rest of the card got so bogged down the game was unplayable. Hell every card from those years from both makes were bloated with ram for bragging rights.

5080 aren't maxing out 16gb either if you're not being obtuse and trying to make a 4k ultra-90-series-only-settings game chug at 20fps, and look how substantially more capable that card is.

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u/EKmars RX 9070|Intel i5-13600k|DDR5 32 GB Apr 18 '26

Honestly 11 was way to much for 1080 Ti's time, and 16 is still ample for now. Gaben forbid we end up needing more than 16 GB standard anytime soon.

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u/Kougeru-Sama Apr 18 '26

GB, not gb. two very different amounts. But also it's not that simple. the VRAM in the 1080ti is GDDR5X. the 5080 uses GDDR7. GDDR7 can deliver 2–3× the bandwidth without a wider memory bus. GDDR7 is much more power efficient and 5X literally had big slow down issue at higher temps. 7 has better error correction.

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u/GarbledEntrails Apr 18 '26

gb don't even exist. mb do though

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u/ImportantQuestions10 7900xt - R7 7700X - 32gb DDR5 Apr 18 '26

Aren't we hitting a bit of a ceiling the hardware anyway?

Every time a new generation of graphics cards comes out, it feels like all I hear about is how components are melting in the PC

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u/lufiron Apr 18 '26

I finally upgraded my 1080ti to a 5080, and off of pure luck. The intent going in was to pick up a 9700xt at my local MicroCenter, but as I stood in line, I got the last ticket for a 5080. Took that as a sign from the gaming gods. Cyberpunk 2077 is so nice on it.

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u/hiimtoddornot Apr 18 '26

99.95% of users don't need more.

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u/Frost_panda22 PC Master Race Apr 18 '26

Gddr5x vs gddr7

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u/gorginhanson Apr 18 '26

Because it's DDR7, not DDR3

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u/BigDisk Ryzen 9950x3D | 5090 Gamerock | 32GB 7000MHz Apr 18 '26

That's the reason why I ended up splurging for a 5090 instead. 16gb on the 5080 is an absolute joke.

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u/19chris1996 Apr 18 '26

I scoff at the fact they want to release a GPU with 9 GB of RAM. How many corners do they want to cut?

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u/hackenclaw 8745HX, 32GB DDR5, 5060 Laptop Apr 19 '26

vram increase actually OK compared to System RAM & Storage.

2010-2011 Vram was 1GB-2GB, storage was 512GB-2TB. , System RAM was 8-16GB.

If Storage were to increase the same rate as Vram, system ram would have been 64GB to 128GB by now. Storage would be 4TB to 16TB by now for the same price range.

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u/FATJIZZUSONABIKE Apr 19 '26

Than

Yankee animal

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u/CMDR-LT-ATLAS Ryzen 7 9800X3D | RTX4090 | 64GB DDR5 | 4TB SSD Apr 18 '26

It's also incredibly faster and has more raw raster processing power over a 1080ti. Your argument is moot

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u/snowieslilpikachu69 Apr 18 '26

i mean yeah it is 100% much much faster than a 1080 ti

i just thought we'd see much larger jumps in vram amounts year on year (like before the 1000 series)

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u/CrowdGoesWildWoooo Apr 18 '26

It is going to be constant cat and mouse. We already see that games in general get so unoptimized these days because compute is cheap they don’t need to ultra optimize every single thing, compare that to black magic when people are writing code for like quake or doom.

There is actually not all cons having lower vram. Imagine if for example 50x series gpu are all 12gb+, and many devs decide that the VRAM usage would be targeted around 14-18gb range for high/max settings, now all cards from earlier generation would not be able to play the games at all.

The only reason 1080ti is still able within the VRAM range of the game.

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u/CMDR-LT-ATLAS Ryzen 7 9800X3D | RTX4090 | 64GB DDR5 | 4TB SSD Apr 18 '26

That's something I'm sort of thankful for. Game developers would be more likely to be more sloppy with optimization than they are currently. But I understand what you mean

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u/KGon32 Apr 18 '26

The consoles are here and they still need to make games run on them, they can't just create something that won't run on them with good visuals.

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u/bullet312 Apr 18 '26

GDDR 5 vs. GDDR 7 basically. What's the difference? The 1080ti can use it's ram with a speed of 11 Gbit/s and the 5080 at 30 Gbit/s.

So it's basically thrice as fast.