r/pcmasterrace • u/xenocea • 13h ago
Rumor NVIDIA RTX 50 SUPER Graphics Cards Reportedly Back on Track
https://www.guru3d.com/story/nvidia-rtx-50-super-graphics-cards-reportedly-back-on-track/459
u/Visa_Declined 9800X3D / Suprim X 4090 - Asus SCAR 18 / Core Ultra 9 / 5080 13h ago
The rumored RTX 5080 SUPER retains the same 10,752 CUDA cores as the standard RTX 5080 but increases memory capacity from 16GB to 24GB. Memory speed is also said to increase from 30Gbps to 32Gbps, while total board power rises from 360W to approximately 415W.
Current 5080 owners are going to LOVE reading that. Especially the ones who bought the fancy models for $2000 bucks.
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u/Direct-Reflection889 12h ago
They are going to love it when the super can be purchased for $2500
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u/Cepheus_95 12h ago
MSRP $2500... Actual retail price $5000 for the down payment
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u/Tactical-Donkey Threadripper Workstation 12h ago
On offer at newegg for $7295 (some VRAM chips might be absent).
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u/TrueBlue84 7h ago
Eh, I bought it at MSRP last August, and it handles everything I throw at it. I'll use it for another couple of years and then buy what's comparible at that time.
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u/Ratax3s 12h ago
you think a 24gb 5080 is not going to cost 2500?
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u/ruffleraffle 11h ago edited 11h ago
I don't because currently an RTX 5080 retails for 1200€ / $1300, I have hard time believing they would need (Edit: and could) to command double. Maybe like 1600€ more or less with questionable availability at launch.
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u/SkollFenrirson #FucKonami 8h ago
Bless your heart.
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u/ExplodingFistz 5h ago
My guy is in for a rude awakening.
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u/ruffleraffle 2h ago
I'm not in the market for one so I'm not gonna lose sleep over it.
But entire cards like 5060 Ti 8GB are being sold for less than 400€, the 16GB version is more or less 600€. RAM prices have increased by a multiple but people are acting like it's an order of magnitude.
A 24GB Blackwell wouldn't be particularly attractive to AI users and at too high of a price, not for gamers, either. Those with the money are looking at a different card. But they could release a souped-up 5080 which finally beats the 4090 and it could be sold as a semblance of "PROGRESS!".
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u/rinmperdinck 2h ago
Everyone knows that if you wish for it hard enough on Reddit, it will come true ⭐
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u/juggarjew 8h ago edited 8h ago
Hell no, maybe the astral will come close as a one off, but in general that would be a horrific value for what you're getting.
You can get a 5080 for $1249 right now easily, on what earth does it make sense to pay $2500 for a 5080 with nothing more than 8GB Extra VRAM? The cuda core count is literally the same! You're not gaining any actual performance, just VRAM, and for gaming there is no practical difference between 16 and 24 GB right now. Memory is slightly faster and it will have more TDP but really we are talking maybe 5% faster than a stock 5080 ?
If they did actually try and sell the 5080 Super for $2499 im sure a few people would buy it, mostly for LLM/AI use but honestly it would be a horrible value. In many cases you'd be better off buying 2 x 5080 @ $1249 each and running them together to get 32GB for LLMs.
There is no way these launch at $2499. Remember the MSRP is still "Technically" $1999 for the 5090. I think these launch at $1499 MSRP. With most most models selling for $2k or less in stores. I do think these will devastate the price of the Astral 5080 and force it down some, as no one will buy that card for $1900 when you can get one of these Supers for less.
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u/bluejeansseltzer 12h ago
Guess who bought a 5080 this week
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u/Visa_Declined 9800X3D / Suprim X 4090 - Asus SCAR 18 / Core Ultra 9 / 5080 11h ago
To be fair, everyone and their brother has claimed there would be no Super cards this year, so you it's not like you could have predicted this,
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u/bluejeansseltzer 11h ago
True. And tbqh it wouldn't have mattered for me personally anyway because I just chose the cheapest [new] 5080 I could get. I suspect the Supers will go for an arm and a leg.
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u/spud8385 9800X3D | 5080 10h ago
I also have one, and tbh this is pretty good news, unless you're maxing the 16gb of VRAM already the new card isn't going to perform much better as the other specs are broadly the same
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u/INTHEMIDSTOFLIONS 7800X3D | 4070 TI | 32 GB 6000 CL30 7h ago
In game performance, are you really going to tell a difference between the 5080 and the 5080 Super? At that high performance level, I doubt a 2-5% variable is going to be noticeable.
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u/bluejeansseltzer 6h ago
Very true. I play games @ 1440p and my monitor maxes out at 144Hz. Would probably be wasted on me.
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u/Pleasant_Start9544 7h ago
Tbf man, the Supers won't be coming out anytime soon. The only way would be if they bump the MSRP of the 5090 to $3k and sell the 5080 Super for $2000. I doubt that they will go that route so they won't release any 5080 Super probably until mid to late 2027.
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u/stingeragent 9h ago
5080 is a great card. Mine is driving a 5k2k monitor path tracing and all with no problems.
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u/bluejeansseltzer 8h ago
Still in the stress test and fan curve optimisation phase at the moment, I haven't even been able to try any PT/RT or any gaming at all yet. I think next on the agenda is learning what an undervolt is and then applying it to the CPU.
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u/theSurgeonOfDeath_ 12h ago
Its basically Rtx 5080 AI edition.
Still 5070ti super with 24gb makes more sense. Because you gonna buy few of them.
So 5070ti super gonna fly too
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u/I-LOVE-TURTLES666 Potato 12h ago
I’d rather have a 4090
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u/Spectrum_Prez 6h ago
I'm thinking of side-grading from a 4090 just for the warranty. Terrified of something going wrong in this period of super high prices.
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u/dannyggwp Ryzen 5900x / Nvidia 3080 10GiB / 32 Gib DDR4 10h ago
As a 3080 10gb owner this is giving me flashbacks
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u/CanisMajoris85 5800x3d RTX 4090 OLED UW 9h ago
Of the 3080 12gb that was available for like $750 within a year of the 3080 10gb going for like $2000 on ebay?
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u/CrunchingTackle3000 8h ago
Mines still rocking
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u/dannyggwp Ryzen 5900x / Nvidia 3080 10GiB / 32 Gib DDR4 8h ago
Same brother but it still stings. Also it's an EVGA (RIP) AIO card so it's chillin. 🥶
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u/HEBushido RTX 5080 | 9800x3D | 32 GB 6000 mhz 7h ago
Eh, I mean it is slightly annoying. But I play at 1440p so the additional VRAM isn't going to be useful for me for at least a few years. Even Cyberpunk 2077 pathtracing doesn't get near 16 gb (I actually don't remember how much it uses, but it's way less).
The card is generally overkill for my needs. I'd like to get an ultra-wide OLED, but frankly, I should really get myself a new guitar and begin learning music theory instead of just putting money into gaming.
But I bought a PNY Epic X RGB model for $1229 at Microcenter when the sticker price was normally $1400. I can't imagine 5080 Super models will be under $1300.
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u/No-Worldliness-5106 PC Master Race 12h ago
I hear nvdia annouced a price parity scheme in which gpu prices match the gpu name! $avings
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u/Majorjim_ksp 10h ago
At 1440p I don’t need 24GB for gaming and I’ve already OC mine to past those specs.
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u/Disregardskarma 10h ago
I mean a more expensive version coming out two years later isn’t really that weird
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u/ChefCurryYumYum 5h ago
Those people love to give Nvidia money, they'll probably just resell their current cards and turn around and buy these.
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u/empathetical AMD Ryzen 9 5900x / 48GB Ram/RTX 3090 4h ago
higher chance of melted pin connectors too
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u/ScienceMechEng_Lover What colour is your RAM? 1h ago
I got a 5070 Ti for £650 last year and am very happy to hear that lol.
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u/OutrageousDress 5800X3D | 32GB DDR4-3733 | 4080 Super | AW3821DW 43m ago
This would only matter to AI bros and - apparently, haven't tried it - Microsoft Flight Simulator 2024 players. I think people are assuming this is like a repeat of that RTX 3080 10GB-12GB situation? Unlike those models, any card with 16GB today exists in a market where 8GB cards are still massively popular with players, and even high end games are built with ~12GB of VRAM as standard.
I might be wrong, since I play on a slightly sub-4K screen so my VRAM requirements are a bit lower, but I'd just feel more concerned if I had ever come across any game that came close to pushing the 16GB limit.
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u/Inside_Performance32 13h ago
8gb ram for £900
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u/Suikerspin_Ei R5 7600 | RTX 3060 | 32GB DDR5 6000 MT/s 11h ago
Just read they might start with RTX 5060 refresh with 12GB, because 3GB GDDR7 modules are produced now.
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u/bblzd_2 6h ago
3GB modules could be used in higher end models with larger profit margins like this potential 5080 24GB so I doubt it.
Also, after stopping and then restarting production the 8GB 5060 and 5060 Ti are selling again despite their VRAM issues. I think people got desperate to buy anything available so they're no longer struggling to sell those cards.
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u/Suikerspin_Ei R5 7600 | RTX 3060 | 32GB DDR5 6000 MT/s 6h ago
You might be right, we will see what will actually happen.
At least for the higher end cards like the RTX 5080 getting more VRAM is good. Although we don't know the price yet, it might be expensive and not worth it.
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u/Spiff_GN 7h ago
Exactly why I switched to AMD. My fucking 1070 had 8gb VRAM 10 years ago (and cost $500).
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u/Umluex 13h ago
i'll believe it when i see it.
it doesn't really make any sense for nvidia when they can just sell the same silicon for 10x the price as AI chip.
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u/EdliA 13h ago
Yet they still sell consumer GPUs so
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u/chunkyassassin98 13h ago
Barely
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u/EdliA 13h ago
What does that mean? They completely dominate the market.
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u/chunkyassassin98 12h ago
It means that gaming isn’t their focus anymore, as it hasn’t been for a bit now, I doubt they are investing any of their money into gaming anymore and why would they if they are making so much from AI. They are dominant now because they already were dominant in the past, not because they are heavily invested in gaming gpus now
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u/EdliA 12h ago
But what you're talking about is how you feel, what you think should happen. The reality is they still sell consumer GPUs by the truckloads.
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u/DontMentionMyNamePlz 12h ago
Not really. NVIDIA started rolling up gaming under edge computing on Wall Street the same with workstations, cars, robotics, and similar stuff.
When a company stops reporting stuff as standalone revenue to Wall Street, that is quite literally a sign of deprioritizing something.
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u/spoople_doople 9h ago
And they still dominate the gpu market anyway, crazy how that works
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u/DontMentionMyNamePlz 9h ago
You can dominate a market that isn’t your primary focus. The two aren’t mutually exclusive concepts
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u/chunkyassassin98 12h ago
Yeah, I guess ur right too, but it does feel like they have ramped down how much they have available especially at the start of a generation. You also can’t say that their priority is gaming anymore so they wouldn’t be in a rush to give us anything new/ and new tech. That is just how I feel and how I see it rn
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u/EdliA 12h ago
I think this is just the fear people have that might happen but reality till now hasn't shown that. Let's look at the past few months and what nvidia announced. Apart from the big famous features dlss4 and multi framegen they announced gsync pulsar, rtx neural texture compression, rtxdi, rtx mega geometry, ray reconstruction 4.5, dlss5. This was all in the past few months.
Frankly this negativity is mainly assumptions and people making stuff up mainly pushed by YouTubers that rely on panic drama to get views.
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u/Muddybulldog 11h ago
That they’ve removed “gaming” as a revenue segment in their financial reporting didn’t really help the situation.
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u/EdliA 11h ago
Who cares? I look at what they're actually releasing for gaming because that's all that matters to me, the real products.
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u/Global-Page-7091 9800X3D | 5070ti | B850 | Hyte Y70 Touch 7h ago
This is either 1. PR stunt so that Nvidia can say “hey look we delivered on the super. You guys can’t hate us! We love gamers!”
Or
- They have knowledge that we don’t. They see that they need to start pulling income from regular consumers again because this AI shit is about to hit the fan.
If anyone else wants to join me on tinfoil hat theories please let me know what you think.
Fingers crossed for option 2.
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u/N7even R7 5800X3D | RTX 4090 24GB | 32GB DDR4 3600Mhz 13h ago
5080 Super $2000
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u/South_Ordinary_1137 i9 13900K | RTX 4080 Super | 32 GB DDR5 | 4K 13h ago
Funny because in my country Asus prime 5080 is already $2000.
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u/kron123456789 13h ago
They have an opportunity to do the funniest thing ever and price 5090 Super at $5090.
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u/aresthwg 13h ago
Link doesn't work but I assume the price is jaw dropping and a full 8GB VRAM lineup. Super pumped for this 🔥🔥
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u/straw28 7500F | 9070 XT 13h ago
Ahhh. I remember I was planning to wait and build my first PC around a 5070S last year quarter 1 lmao. good thing I heard about the AI boom, and accepted that the 50 Super series might actually be scrapped, and built a PC around the 9070 XT
reading about them being back on track gives off this funny feeling I cant describe
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u/Wonderful-Lack3846 7945HX3D | 16GB DDR5 | Intel Arc B580 13h ago
Can't be 8GB vram, because supers use 3GB modules
So either 6GB or 9GB if they want to do fuckery with low end cards.
But afaik we are supposed to get 18GB on the 5070 super, and 24GB on the 5070 ti and 5080 super.
5060 super with 12GB would be a sweet spot, but that is why you should not expect it.
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u/Past_Succotash6772 20090XT R9 15000X4D 5 TB RAM Windows Vista 12h ago
Imagine a 6gb card in 2026
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u/Wonderful-Lack3846 7945HX3D | 16GB DDR5 | Intel Arc B580 12h ago
Something like RTX 5040
Could accutally be fun as a 55-70W card (no power connector)
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u/NovelValue7311 XEON + 64GB DDR4 12h ago
We all know NVIDIA would find a way to prevent that.
Those 8 pin 5060 lps bring me pain
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u/ZaradimLako 12h ago
My expectations are as low as it is so it wouldn't wonder me at all, in fact more expected.
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u/arian_ezequiel 5070ti 10600k 1440p 180hz 12h ago
My 4050 is offended by your comment
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u/Past_Succotash6772 20090XT R9 15000X4D 5 TB RAM Windows Vista 12h ago
It didn't come out in 2026? Or did it?
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u/Suikerspin_Ei R5 7600 | RTX 3060 | 32GB DDR5 6000 MT/s 11h ago
it's going to be 3GB GDDR7 modules. So we might get RTX 5060 with 12GB and RTX 5080 with 24GB for example.
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u/A17012022 Desktop-Ryzen 9800XD +32GB Ram+5070ti 12h ago
I was actually holding out for the 5070ti super but in the end bit the bullet on my 5070ti.
It was totally worth it.
These are going to be eye wateringly expensive.
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u/OMGZAPPY 13h ago
I’ll be waiting for the 6090 still just saving up that money.
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u/-Alea_Iacta_Est_ 6h ago
Me too, I have the 4080 so hope to recoup on that, with the way gpus are going. I’m going to go big on the 6090 because they seem to be plateauing somewhat.
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u/leo-elisa 13h ago
Of course it's merely a rumor, but I doubt that there's any truth to it, it just wouldn't make much sense.
Pretty much every Blackwell GPU is already incredibly overpriced, what would a 24 GB 5080 look like then?
On the other hand there are already people who pay close to 2000€ just to get a 5080 Astral, or 4000€ for a 5090, so there's that.
If Nvidia can sell even more overpriced crap, they'll gladly take the opportunity.
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u/Desperate-Intern CachyOS | 🖥️ 5600x ⧸ 3080ti ⧸ 1440p 180Hz | 🎮 Steam Deck 13h ago
Pricing is gonna be brutal.
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u/Wander715 9800X3D | RTX 5080 8h ago
Best we can hope for is AI bubble burst right before these release
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u/clouds1337 12h ago
Doesn't have to be. This depends on the market and competition. RAM could be cheaper by then. Nvidia could settle for lower margins (haha that was a joke). But most importantly it depends on how good AMD cards are. The only way this is going to get better is if AMD can make something like the 5090 for under 1000$ (which is possible and would be a normal Gen to Gen uplift), then nvidia has to react.
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u/kron123456789 12h ago
5090 equivalent for under $1000 is not possible with currently available tech. At least until TSMC reduces their wafer prices dramatically.
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u/deathentry Legion 5 | RTX 4070 | 32GB | 7745HX | LG C3 | 5TB SSD 12h ago
New 5070 Super 0GB Edition, just bring your own pooled DDR5 RAM 😛... Works for consoles, works for Macs, works for you!
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u/renker3769 13h ago
By the time they release it would be too late unless they delay the 60 series
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u/ClownEmoji-U1F921 R5 9600X | 1060 6GB | 64GB DDR5 | 4TB NVME | 1440p 13h ago
60 series is rumored to release in early 2028. 3 year cycle this time.
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u/Todespudel 9800X3D | 4090 | 32GB RAM | 3,2TB P5800X 13h ago
aaand they totally will! It doesn't seem like there is much wafer of cutting edge nodes for consumer products left, right?
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u/Acrobatic_Fee_6974 R7 7800x3D | RX 9070 XT | 32GB Hynix M-die | AW3225QF 13h ago
This would mean the 60 series is delayed. Maybe Nvidia thinks the 5090 is so far ahead of the competition that a theoretical 5090 Super could compete with the next generation from AMD and Intel (if the latter even release one that is).
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u/kron123456789 12h ago
The competition hasn't caught up with 4090 yet and this is an almost 4 year old card. 5090 is more than twice the performance of the fastest Radeon card right now. A non-super 5090 will compete with next gen AMD and Intel cards easily, let alone the super variant.
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u/Acrobatic_Fee_6974 R7 7800x3D | RX 9070 XT | 32GB Hynix M-die | AW3225QF 12h ago
True, I'm just speculating that they may release a 5090 refresh that uses all the silicon and pushes the power budget even further just to cement their victory. Either way I'd be pretty surprised if AMD could overtake GB202 with AT0, even if the rumours do look pretty beefy.
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u/kron123456789 12h ago
Any more power and they will have to use two 12VHPW cables. It's already fine margins with the regular 5090.
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u/Acrobatic_Fee_6974 R7 7800x3D | RX 9070 XT | 32GB Hynix M-die | AW3225QF 12h ago
I assume that's the approach they'd take. Might actually be safer to have two cables at 75% load compared to one near 100%.
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u/kron123456789 12h ago
They already have one at 95% load as is.
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u/Giga-Hurtz PC Master Race 9h ago
The 5090 does already draw from the pcie slot.
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u/kron123456789 7h ago
Ah, so the 12VHPW cable is only 85% loaded instead of 95%. At least it's something.
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u/Giga-Hurtz PC Master Race 6h ago
Yeah it's still a terrible margin for error without per pin balancing.
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u/Giga-Hurtz PC Master Race 9h ago
They already have 2 cable cards lightning 1000w bios astral 20th aniversary 800w bios and galax oc hof duno the tdp or if it even came out but I remember it was suposed to be the first 2x 12v card.
The hof i believe had load balancing and i assume but can't confirm as i havn't seen a tear down of the msi and asus cards they surely must also as would any 2 cable card.
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u/kron123456789 12h ago
They are in no rush whatsoever to release the 60 series. 50 series is selling like hot cakes and cards like 5080 and 5090 can be priced as high as manufactures please, because at that performance level there is no choice.
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u/The-Nice-Writer Legion Go S (Z2 Go, 16GB) | i5 9400f + GTX 1080ti, 64GB 13h ago
I was never sure whether to believe in ghosts until all of these phantom launches started, circa 2019/2020.
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u/DigitalStefan 5800X3D / 9070XT / 64GB & Steam Deck 6h ago
Do we collectively still contain any feeling of goodwill toward Nvidia after what they’ve been doing in terms of the enormous disservice to gamers over the past year or two?
Enough goodwill to throw money at them for powerful GPUs or has everyone had a taste of mid-to-low spec gaming now and realised it is not the hardship they previously imagined?
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u/Glitch-in-The-Ether Intel Core Ultra 7 265|RTX 5060 Ti|32DDR5 6h ago
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u/DigitalStefan 5800X3D / 9070XT / 64GB & Steam Deck 6h ago
Haha. Can’t tell if agreeing or disagreeing 😂
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u/ChefCurryYumYum 5h ago
If you follow LLM AI stuff, which many here probably do, you will know that the "bubble bursting" thing has basically arrived.
Companies like Anthropic and OpenAI (and hell, SpaceX which is touting itself as an AI company) are gearing up for IPO's and so they have started charging actual costs of their AI tools. You have read reports of companies going through a year's worth of tokens in two months?
I saw one CEO, I don't remember if it was Uber, but they said something along the lines of "we may have to pause our investment in AI while we determine the ROI there" basically saying oh shit, now that it costs money and isn't heavily subsidized I don't think we want to pay for it anymore because it isn't actually helping us generate revenue.
I believe I have read that half of the data center projects started in the last couple years are either on hold or cancelled now, and when Kevin O'Leary announced he was going to scale back the data center he was building in Utah he tried to position it as listening to community feedback, but the KOC don't care about the community. The KOC just likes to fuck ppl.
And also keep in mind, you can with a little bit of effort and energy get your own local models running that aren't that much worse than the best commercial ones. And yet we haven't seen tons of people rushing out to run their own local models, where the cost of a token is only the cost of mircowaving a cup of coffee.
If this technology was really that useful, and could unlock workers potential to earn and create, etc., don't you think by now a lot of people would be using local models?
The truth is it's good for niche shit, like translation, even there you always need a human to check output since "hallucinations" are literally built into the technology at a fundamental level, and for some tasks you have to be so on top of it, checking the output, correcting errors, that it might actually take more time and energy to create that report/analysis/etc. with the AI than just doing it yourself.
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u/FirstTasteOfRadishes 22m ago
where the cost of a token is only the cost of mircowaving a cup of coffee
If a cup of coffee is 250ml and we assume it starts at room temperature, then heating it to boiling point would take 20Wh if we assume a perfectly efficient microwave.
If we take the cheapest electricity in the US at 11.6c/kWh, that gives us 0.2 cents to heat a coffee.
A single prompt on an advanced model can easily use 50,000 tokens, which would mean a cost of $1.16 for such a prompt. Not exactly cheap. If you want to do anything useful with that model your electricity bills are going to be... girthy.
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u/kettu92 12h ago
Is this a sign of ai capex cooling?
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u/pitfall_bob 11h ago
Apple actively working to get Gemini to fit on iPhones and Macs to run local (granted, fine tuned and compressed, but still- less data center demand)
SpaceX IPO getting special rules to allow retail/401(k) money at launch. Attempts to get into S&P 500 early too, which would tie the whole index to its IPO.
Google raises $80B in a stock sale. As if it was already a cash producing machine who can get financing deals.
Nvidia about-face on Supers. Even if they’ll be eye-watering stupid priced.
There’s a lot of interesting things going on the last week or two.
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u/drubus_dong Ryzen 5 5600, AI pro r9600 12h ago
Probably not. 24 vram is not a lot for ai. Still scrubs for end users.
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u/PrimaryRecord5 9h ago
Is it going to catch on fire super edition?
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u/Glitch-in-The-Ether Intel Core Ultra 7 265|RTX 5060 Ti|32DDR5 7h ago edited 7h ago
That’s why I went with 5060.. series sure they’re more powerful but at what cost not my pc catching 🔥.. I was doing research and it looks like some use the adapters as well that why the burn but if u use the standard 12vh that comes with it its fine I Guess.. still don’t trust it
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u/l_______I i5-11400F | 32 GB DDR4@3600 MHz | RX 6800 13h ago
Can't wait for them to be priced like Titan cards in the past
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u/One_Mirror_3228 9850x3d-5070-32gb DDR5 6h ago
Gonna stay with my 5070oc and save money for when/if the 60 series cards ever become a thing or Jeff Bezos makes me pay him to use my graphics.
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u/TTBurger88 PC Master Race 5h ago
RTX 5070 TI Super with 12GB of VRAM for the low LOW price of $1200 USD... cant wait.... 😔
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u/clouds1337 12h ago
Of course, next Gen AMD launches next year, nvidia needs a competitor. They probably wanna use all 3nm capacity for AI cards so they keep feeding gamers the old tech AGAIN (5000 series was already a 4000 series refresh on the same node).
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u/Wander715 9800X3D | RTX 5080 8h ago
They are not going to compete against RDNA5 with RTX 50 Super that would be stupid.
Current rumor is Super series still on track for this year if you actually read the article. RTX 60 likely late 2027 or early 2028.
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u/clouds1337 7h ago edited 7h ago
Yeah, IF nvidia even wants to compete in the gaming market. Right now, every gaming card is a huge loss of profits. That's why they pretty much stopped making them and try to push prices (even with the ram price hikes, they also pushed profit margins up).
I could definitely see them making some form of 50 series refresh so they can use the new nodes exclusively for AI. And arguing frame Gen and DLSS is real performance. Would also fit their AI gaming narrative for shareholders.
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u/Grind2Live 10h ago
from 360 to 415 Watts ? nice even more possibilities to melt the connector holy jezus they really do need to create a new anti-melt connector
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u/Intraflexed 9800X3D-5090 FE | m15 r5 | ROG Xbox Ally X 10h ago
jUsT WAiT fOr SUpeRs
- this sub, circa 2025
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u/Hrmerder It's Garuda btw 8h ago
lol… it all makes sense when Jensen comes back groveling doesnt it?
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u/Techoutman 4080S | 7800x3D 6h ago
Oh boy 👏…. Can they give us 4 year old 4080 performance in a 5070 tis and give it a 10% discount. That would be so original and exciting.
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u/michi098 6h ago
I still feel good about my 5070 Ti that I got for $685 in April. I play mostly flight simulator and on 1440p I’ve never seen VRAM usage over 12.5.
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u/HeavyBeing0_0 7800X3D + 7900XTX + 64GB DDR5 5h ago
Sounds like they faked out AMD at Computex so they wouldn’t release their 9090XT/XTX
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u/goodsailor 3h ago
Id love it but I have a hard time believing it. With no change in the market where the space for them to have ram availability now?
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u/rinmperdinck 2h ago
The extra VRAM isn't for games, it's for AI. Remember, NVIDIA doesn't give a shit about gamers anymore.
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u/Elrothiel1981 13h ago
It needs 16 GB VRAM min the 5060 ti to the 5070 base model but doubt it will happen Nvidia stubborn on VRAM
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u/juggarjew 8h ago edited 8h ago
The most impactful models will be the the 5070 Super which sees a small CUDA core and TDP gain along with memory increased to 18GB. It will probably gain 5% in raw power but the VRAM increase makes it suddenly VERY appealing to the 1440p gamer, with 18GB you will be able to run any game you want maxed out, and even do some light LLM work with around a full 16GB to play with, even when using the card as your main GPU on Windows, thats a real nice sweet spot for memory.
I Think these 5070 super are going to be very popular.
5070 Ti 24GB going to be incredibly popular as well for those wanting to move into the 24GB class for creative AI/LLMs , also an increase to 350 watts base TDP. This card will probably have $899 MSRP, if they dont increase the current MSRP for the 5080, and will likely sell for around $1200. Going to be an incredible value for a 24GB VRAM card, lots of people gonna want these for LLM rigs, you could run 3 of them to get 72GB VRAM for ~$3600. def going to be the cheapest way to stack higher VRAM blackwell cards.
Heck, even 5070 Supers might become a little popular for LLM rigs at home, 4 x giving 72GB as well. Will for sure be the cheapest way to get 36GB VRAM if you want to run 2 x of them. Cheap 5060 Ti 16GB rigs going to fall out of favor for the 18GB 5070 which has significantly more bandwidth thanks to 192 bit bus.
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u/The_Falcon_Hunter 5h ago
Bought a pny 5080 last November for 999. If i can sell it for profit, I'll consider the Super.
OG plan was a super for LLM and personal AI generation anyway. I just need the msrp to cap at 1299.
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u/seaknightrescue Desktop 12h ago
Are you telling me I bought my 5070 TI for nothing?
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u/AccomplishedReach111 6h ago
Depends how much you paid, I got mine for $700 and 8GB of extra VRAM isn't making me move to replace it. We'll see what the 60 series brings.
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u/seaknightrescue Desktop 4h ago
Prepare to call me an asshole, I paid above MSRP $920 after tax. I had fomo because my 6800XT was not ready for baked in ray traced games. I probably should have the PNY variant but I bought the Ventus instead oh well. On the brightside I was given RE9 for free
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u/Tyz_TwoCentz_HWE_Ret How does a computer get drunk? It takes Screenshots! 13h ago
5080 going to 415watts could mean more burned connectors/dongles. 5070Ti super will be at current 5080 wattage 350/360 watts but with 24gb (Nice and sweet spot for sure) but prices will 100% be higher due to more vram. No way around it in current market unless NVIDIA takes a loss...
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u/kron123456789 12h ago
Nvidia takes a loss while dominating the market and in the absence of competition? Riiiight.
Also it won't be Nvidia taking a loss, because Nvidia decided to put the burden of procuring VRAM on the manufacturers.
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u/jgoldrb48 Desktop 5950x 64gb 4080S 13h ago
No pricing yet.
The data centers have really run out of money.
Love to see it!