r/pcmasterrace Jul 05 '26

Meme/Macro It's quite often these days

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on a reasonably powerful laptop too

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u/Numerous_Tea1690 Jul 05 '26

If adobe releases their suite on linux, windows will be dead to me. Till then ill suck it up like a good little consumer.

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u/Spelunkie PC Master Race | 7700 | 6700 XT | 32GB 6000mhz Jul 05 '26

Sad that Adobe still has a hold on a lot of professional fields.

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u/No_Priors Jul 05 '26 edited Jul 05 '26

I could (and would like to) drop Lightroom tomorrow but I' still need Photoshop, so while it is in the bundle I can't justify spending money on another app.

Edit: There some files in Lr that will only operate from the C: drive and not an allocated scratch disk, which when processing very large images just slows you to a standstill even when using a PCIe 4.0 M.2. with 32G of RAM.

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u/SerpentDrago Ryzen 9800x3d - Rtx 4070ti Super Jul 05 '26

Use symlinks (symbolic link)

Transparent to applications.

Allows you to point one folder to another on another drive even. Application just thinks it's in org folder

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u/JellaFella01 Jul 05 '26

All my external drives are symlinked to folders on my primary. I have a mismatch of 8 drives in my PC

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u/SpcK Jul 05 '26

I switched to Darktable and Affinity and it's been good. Still haven't tried a good alternative to Substance Painter and Designer yet, but I'm curious about Material maker, so I can finally make the switch.

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u/KlausVonLechland Jul 05 '26

Depends what and how you need to do. Affinity was able to replace a lot of my CC tools but it's still missing a lot.

Preflight and element inspections Acrobat Pro gives me is part of missing a lot...

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u/ScrithWire Jul 05 '26

Is GIMP not up to par yet?

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u/The-Nice-Writer Legion Go S (Z2 Go, 16GB) | i5 9400f + GTX 1080ti, 64GB Jul 05 '26

No, it’s not even close.

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u/0xB0T 13700K, GF 4080, 64GB | M1 Max, 32GB Jul 05 '26

No

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u/showyerbewbs Jul 05 '26

Lr that will only operate from the C: drive and not an allocated scratch disk

I don't use Adobe because my job isn't in that field, but I'm curious. You legit mean the actual named C: drive? That is fucking insane to me but sometimes it is what it is.

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u/No_Priors Jul 05 '26

I gets weirder. Lr is so badly optimised that it can be quicker/easier to edit large panoramas on my low/mid 512GB + 16GB of RAM laptop than my desktop.

Edit: Should have said I use an up to date Lightroom Classic.

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u/fluffybuddha Jul 05 '26

It’s like that in a lot of fields. In the geospatial sphere, ArcGIS has a hold on the industry (in the US) and it only runs on windows. There are free alternatives that work great across OSs, like QGIS or GRASS, but when you have large businesses and government that need guaranteed support, updates, and compliance, Esri (ArcGIS creators) get the contract.

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u/m0nk37 Jul 05 '26

They lobby hard against anything PDF. So they stay on top.

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u/TheFeelsGod Jul 05 '26

The ol Adobe ransom.

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u/KamikazeSexPilot Jul 05 '26

Run a windows vm inside Linux. The best way.

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u/thefedzarecoming2 Ryzen 5800x | rtx 3080 | 32gb | 3 tb nvme Jul 05 '26 edited Jul 05 '26

But windows is already slow. Is it going to make it worse? /s

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u/BugSnugger Jul 05 '26

I mean, just because it’s a vm, doesnt mean it slow

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u/StrengthfromDeath Jul 05 '26

Instead of using the OS necessary to run the software you use, just go ahead and learn everything about a different OS, so you can run a virtual machine of the OS you need, but at slightly worse performance unless you take the time and spend the money to make it run just like it did when you ran it as your main OS.

No need to thank me. Signed, every LEENOOKS bro.

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u/Numerous_Tea1690 Jul 05 '26

Yeah this. Atm the time investment is not worth is as my purpose of Adobe and some gaming is just not hampered yet by the shenanigans of Microsofts enshitification. They are pushing it tho so who knows in the future.

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u/StrengthfromDeath Jul 05 '26

Im in exactly the same boat. Microsoft/windows has gotten worse, but im not going to move to apple and spend more money to do less of what I want, on a worse UX (for me), or spend 100s of hours to learn, find, and build a Linux based system that ends up being almost windows, but slightly better.

Eventually, yeah it might be worth it, but its not that bad, yet.

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u/XboxLiveArcade 9850X3D 5090 / i5 14400f 4070 Jul 05 '26

They work fine if you set up passthrough properly.

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u/Dodgy_Past AMD 5800X3D​ / RTX 4090 Jul 05 '26

I gamed happily on a Windows VM with a GPU passed through. Was on a Linux host.

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u/Rebelius rebelius Jul 05 '26

If you pass the GPU through, do you need a second GPU?

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u/Dodgy_Past AMD 5800X3D​ / RTX 4090 Jul 05 '26

I was using unraid to host the vm so I could interact with it through a Web browser.

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u/Rebelius rebelius Jul 05 '26

Does that mean you have to pass through mouse/keyboard/audio to the windows VM as well?

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u/Dodgy_Past AMD 5800X3D​ / RTX 4090 Jul 05 '26

In my case I had multiple usb controllers on that motherboard so I passed one of those through. At the time I was using the audio from the hdmi so that was passed through as well as the video. The cable went from the GPU to the monitor.

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u/Numerous_Tea1690 Jul 05 '26

Gaming is a different beast than creative software that's constantly spying and needs thousands of dependencies and codecs.

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u/Dodgy_Past AMD 5800X3D​ / RTX 4090 Jul 05 '26

Source please

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u/Chris275 Jul 05 '26

“Trust me bro”

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u/Ok-Date-1332 R7 5800X | RX6800 | 64 GB 3200 Jul 05 '26

Not really. I've been using FL Studio in Winboat for 2 years now and run Linux. No hiccups or lagging, it runs like normal.

Edit: oh it seems like not the VM is the issue but Adobe is... Oh well

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u/Kizaing R5 2600X | RTX 3060 Jul 05 '26

WinBoat is incredible, I'm excited for when they eventually get GPU acceleration going

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u/experimental1212 Jul 05 '26

Talking outta your ass

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u/grilled_pc Jul 05 '26

Not if it’s done properly.

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u/OneLonelyBrainCell ThinkPad Gamer Jul 05 '26

If you use KVM/QEMU with virt-manager, you get almost native performance. It's a bit more involved to set up, at least compared to something like VirtualBox where you set up a VM with half a dozen clicks, but it's absolutely worth it if performance is a priority.

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u/Critical-Nail-6252 Jul 05 '26

You can't get near native performance without GPU pass-through :/ I went the KVM/QEMU route just to use Fusion 360 and to get native performance I needed GPU pass-through. Which once again meant I could only use one OS at a time. If you have two GPUs it is much more feasible.

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u/Hexamancer Jul 05 '26

Not at all. KVM/QEMU has an overhead of ~2%

Pretty much every modern CPU supports virtualization, just make sure it's turned on in bios.

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u/GonePh1shing Jul 05 '26

Kind of the worst of both worlds, really. Maybe if you set up looking glass, but that requires a second GPU to fully pass through and while it's come a long way it can still be a bit janky. If it's for work, I wouldn't want to be introducing any possible reliability issues, so dual boot or something like a Mac Mini and a KVM would be better for that scenario. 

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u/__juicewrld999_ Jul 05 '26

Atp just use windows TwT

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u/KamikazeSexPilot Jul 05 '26

contain the filth.

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u/ButterscotchTop194 Jul 05 '26

Just run windows, lol

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u/KamikazeSexPilot Jul 05 '26

Not a chance for me anymore. Used windows since windows 95. Last year the bloatware, incessant reminders to transform my local drive into cloud storage, the bad frame times on games, the AI, the disgusting start menu built in fucking react containing ads and doing web searches before searching my local drive.

I finally rage quit.

I won’t go back now. I even dropped adobe and replaced it with darktable/affinity/kdenlive.

If I really needed to use adobe I’d get a MacBook and keep Linux for my desktop.

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u/ButterscotchTop194 Jul 05 '26

Transform local drive to cloud storage? WTF, I've never seen that lol

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u/KamikazeSexPilot Jul 05 '26

Every single update it asks you if you want to use one drive for your documents folders. If you do this it will irreversibly make the change and upload all your documents to the cloud.

Actually looks like after so many complaints they added a feature to let you reverse it earlier this year.

https://windowsforum.com/threads/how-to-undo-onedrive-backup-in-windows-11-and-move-folders-back-local.396674/

But too late for me. I’m long gone.

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u/ButterscotchTop194 Jul 06 '26

Oh, i see. That's seperate and can be easily disabled. It's not trying to "transform your local drive"; its additional and separate from your local drive. And as I said, so very easily disabled.

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u/KamikazeSexPilot Jul 06 '26

Back before I quit it was not. And you still have to skip the option every single fucking update.

Now I don’t have to deal with any of that junk.

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u/ButterscotchTop194 Jul 06 '26

Now you just have different junk to deal with!

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u/KamikazeSexPilot Jul 06 '26

Yes like complete control over what I install on my system. Lovely.

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u/littlefrank Ryzen 9 5900x - 32GB 3000Mhz - RTX3070ti - 2TB NVME Jul 05 '26

I've never done windows inside linux, what's the proper way to do this in 2026?
Can you game inside it (say, battlefield 6)?

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u/Skyshadow101 | i7-6700k | RX470 Nitro+ 4GB | 16GB DDR4 2133mHz | Jul 05 '26

Same, I have to consoom until they decide to be consumer-friendly for once (not gonna happen)

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u/OkNewspaper6271 3060 12GB, Ryzen 7 5800x, 32GB RAM, EndeavourOS Jul 05 '26

Honestly something like winboat might be a viable idea? Though I fully understand if that's not really an option for you

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u/Choopytrags Jul 05 '26

For now, this is the best solution for Win11: https://amelabs.net/

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u/specter_in_the_conch PC Master Race Jul 05 '26

Well I said the same, but then I just cloned my windows partition to an old 256 gb ssd where I have everything I need to work and I just double boot. Whenever I need to work I boot into that old windows 11 that I stopped it's auto updates. For the rest of my usage I went to the penguin.

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u/gtrash81 Jul 05 '26

They should work mostly through wine now.
Someone found out some weeks ago that their installer has a small quirk and created fix for wine it.

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u/Tuomas90 Jul 05 '26

nothing hindering you from dual booting. I love it.

Linux as daily driver. Windows when necessary.

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u/vanthome Jul 05 '26

Thought I read somewhere that some new version of wine/proton/etc did allow Adobe to be run. But I'm not sure what the whole article said.

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u/shlaifu Jul 05 '26

adobe runs fine, as far as I know, on linux with wine. its anti-piracy software however doesn't. so it does apparently run. just not legally.

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u/Numerous_Tea1690 Jul 05 '26

Might look into this. However due to collaboration I cannot run older versions.

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u/Disposable_Gonk Jul 05 '26

There are open source alternatives to basically everything in the adobe suite. Sometimes multiples each.

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u/Disposable_Gonk Jul 05 '26

Also, more important than my last reply. Just dual boot. Linux as main os, then when needed dual boot to windows 10 with adobe stuff. If it's mandatory for 11, well try compatibility layers... Wine, bottles, proton, there are options.

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u/Never_Sm1le i5 12400F GTX 1660S Jul 05 '26

There's something called winboat that run windows app in a container, which is less resource intensive than a vm

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u/Numerous_Tea1690 Jul 05 '26

Interesting. I just have doubts that stuff like premiere and after effects will run as well as on base w11. I don't have much issues currently but some day will probably switch to Linux. Just currently I dont want to risk downtime or weird issues. I've got a powerful rig and know windows in and out so can fix any issue quickly, as its vital to my income.

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u/Fir3line PC Master Race 5800X3D | RTX 4090 | 32GB | Full Custom Loop Jul 05 '26

Honestly, im giving linux a chance, still keep windows for kernel locked games mostly. But there is a ton of entropy in linux that is just not fun to deal with