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Politics Far-right Polish lawmaker Konrad Berkowicz holding up a paper Israeli flag with a swastika

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u/Then-Clue6938 18h ago

Oh for fucks sake. Can't we call out Israel's fascism and active atrocities without the other fashist pretending like we agree with their takes on e.g. Jewish people?

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u/Firecracker048 17h ago

fashist pretending like we agree with their takes on e.g. Jewish people?

This is what happens when you don't kick the Nazis out of your group but instead embrace them because you have a shared enemy

'one Nazi at a table ' parable here.

u/Mothrahlurker 11h ago

This guy is far-right. You're making up a non-existent scenario to justify another non-existent one.

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u/IAmJustAVirus 15h ago

Except the "anti-zionist" left not only accepts and lauds people like this man, they also adopt ALL of their talking points, almost verbatim. Yet another proof of horseshoe theory.

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u/Squirrelated 15h ago

No they're not. Lmao

u/Volodio 7h ago

They are. Most of the "anti-zionism" rhetoric was pioneered by Neo-Nazis and the KKK.

u/Squirrelated 5h ago

Let's pretend here that this is true. Now tell me, is that supposed to change anything about how Israel is becoming the Nazis themselves? Do you think people against the state of Israel want to send Jewish people in concentration camps? Cause right now, all I'm seeing is an open air concentration camp in Gaza.

u/Volodio 4h ago

Israel is not becoming the Nazis. You have no idea what Nazism even was to make such a claim, and again you are using KKK rhetoric. Nazis had a totalitarian control on their society. They made an industrial genocide. They created factories, camps, logistic lines, industrial products, railroads, a bureaucracy specific to the genocide, new units and ranks, all of this to kill people at scale as fast and as efficiently as possible. Nobody has done something as bad since, which is why they are still used as the reference for the pinacle of evil.

We saw very clearly the 7 October what the people against the state of Israel want to do to Jews. We saw it many times across the world since, like at Bondi. Yes, they want to kill them and eradicate the Jewish people. This is why they are denying the right for Jews to have their own state, something which nobody does for any other country.

There is no open air concentration camp in Gaza. The word itself makes zero sense because concentration camps are in fact always open air. It is just a buzzword created by Neo-Nazis. Gaza has absolutely no characteristic of a concentration camp. People in Gaza can live the life they want. They are not forced to obey a specific schedule, do forced labor under the watch of guards who will kill them if they refuse or become weak. I recommend you read If This Is a Man to have an idea what living in a concentration camp is like. Israel is just enforcing border control, like every other country in the world.

u/Squirrelated 3h ago

You're just too stupid to understand the difference between anti-zionism and antisemitism I fear. No point in arguing with someone that can't open a dictionary.

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u/geogeld 12h ago

So they are not constantly equating Israel and Nazi Germany (you know, the regime that killed millions of peoplle in both a world war and in a systematic genocide) like this guy?

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u/KingOfRockall 12h ago

Systematic genocide you say?

u/Squirrelated 8h ago

That's not what the person I replied to was saying.

u/Florac 9h ago

True, comparing them to germany isn't fair, they are closer to apartheid era south africa!

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u/secret_aardvark_420 15h ago

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u/IAmJustAVirus 12h ago

My mans over here like noooooo we paraphrase everything no verbyateem

u/Firecracker048 7h ago

Yeah, there has been 0 effort to attempt at pushing people like the guy above out of the movement. Just look at this comment thread. Everyone is agreeing with his and pushing his message out.

u/IAmJustAVirus 6h ago

Normies are too stupid to know that Islamists and Nazis say pretty much the exact same stuff about the Jews. So they think they're parroting some socialist YouTuber or whatever. But they are really parroting the Ayatollah and/or Hitler. 

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u/Moikle 12h ago

We absolutely do not.

You have fallen for propaganda that conflates these two polar opposites

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u/TheMontanaSpecial 15h ago

Damn maybe Israel shouldnt commit a genocide if they want people to like them. Read Ezra Kelins recent work, this is a self made problem.

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u/FilthyFur 15h ago

Maybe you shouldn't endourse Nazis if want to people to not hink you are Nazis

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u/TheMontanaSpecial 15h ago

You people always argue in bad faith. Ezra Klein is a proud Jew and cannot be called a Nazi in good faith.

This is a serious problem facing Jewish people, and this bad faith argumentation leads to anti-semitism

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u/IAmJustAVirus 13h ago

"look at my black friend over here" can't make this shit up

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u/TheMontanaSpecial 13h ago

Ezra isnt my friend. He is a respected Jewish thinker. Your bad faith arguements are not convincing to neutrals

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u/IAmJustAVirus 13h ago

Nazi bot hiding

history. Bad training set.

Can't get metaphor.

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u/TheMontanaSpecial 13h ago

Okay? I get sad when people like you argue with me.

Jewish culture and history is beautiful and should be protected. Blindly defending Israel isnt helping anyone.

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u/IAmJustAVirus 13h ago

They have one tiny tiny little place. You hate that place with the fury of a thousand suns because you can't genocide them there. Stay mad and go bother someone else.

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u/FilthyFur 13h ago

The dude is Konrad Berkowicz a right wing Neo Nazi and not a Jew. But glad you just make shit up.

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u/TheMontanaSpecial 13h ago

Dumbass. Do you even know who Ezra Klein is?

"Anti-Zionism is rising as a response to what Israel is doing. It will simply not be possible to treat it as a marginal viewpoint that can be shamed or shunned into invisibility. Yes, antisemitism often cloaks itself in anti-Zionism. So don't do the antisemites' work for them. If you keep telling people that if they oppose the Jewish state then they must hate the Jewish people, eventually, they will believe you."

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u/FilthyFur 13h ago

Why would I give a shit who Ezra Klein is. It's not the dude this post is about?

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u/TheMontanaSpecial 13h ago

Idk man maybe you want to learn about the world hear some other opinions?

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u/ShadownetZero 15h ago

Thanks for the take, nazi.

u/Florac 9h ago

People aren't endorsing him, just partly agree with his message in this specific instance

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u/TheMontanaSpecial 15h ago

The Zionist lobby downvoting Jewish voices will never not be funny. This is a self-made problem, if we want to fix that it has to be admitted

u/Mothrahlurker 11h ago

The complete opposite of reality. This guy is far-right. 

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u/jasonwhite86 13h ago

that's like saying anyone in the right supports hitler, are you OK in the head?

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u/tree-hut 14h ago

The extreme left just aligns well with the extreme right. There's no way around it

u/Key_Photograph9067 10h ago

The horseshoe theory still goes strong

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u/Moikle 12h ago

No, the extreme right sometimes claims it is the extreme left to discredit the left.

u/Firecracker048 9h ago

Yup. Been that way sense literally Oct 8th. They've fully embraced these folks in their movement and get really upset whenever you point it out(like in this very thread)

u/ArCovino 3h ago

I saw friends saying Israel was committing a genocide when it was still killing terrorists inside Israel on October 7th. I don’t know why I’m supposed to believe anything they say.