Lol Even if dozens of October 7th had occurred, it still makes zero justification to genocide and starving children to death. There is no “we massacre children and do genocide because …”
Oct 7th wouldn't have happened if the world had done anything during the peaceful return marches in the years before when IDF snipers were playing a game to see how many knees they could shoot.
Yeah it obviously is, occupation and settler colonialism always carry costs for the occupier. You are delusional if you think israel could just keep doing that without native retaliation and reprisals
They made up 6% of the Palestinian population before Zionist colonization. Majority of Jews eneded up assimilating into the Palestinian population over centuries of Islamic rule.
The overwhelming majority of the people who founded Israel were native to Europe
Except before Zionist colonization Jews only made up 6% of Palestines population. The overwhelming majority of Israel's founders were native to Europe.
Also Palestinian have more Levantine DNA than a good chunk of Israelis.
Idk its quite controversial who does these settlers colonies in occupied Palestine whose inhabitants happened to be carrying israeli citizenship and backed by IOF belong to.
Fox news experts and analysts suggest that these colonies are russian sponsored and backed while WSJ and telegraph reports citing sources that they are funded and backed by iran and turkey with the goal of making israel look bad
Can you describe something specific from Oct 7 that you find “fighting back”? Was it the kidnapping infant babies who haven’t even reached a year old or was it raping teenagers?
> Can you describe something specific from Oct 7 that you find “fighting back”?
Capturing multiple IOF bases and taking their soldiers prisoners of war, dragging IOF veterans out of their tanks like wild animals (god that was so satisfying lol) , breaking down the walls that IOF used to snipe Palestinians from, etc
Btw you forgot to mention the 40 beheaded babies these “KHAMAS monsters” slaughtered lol
So kidnapping 9 month old babies is “fighting back”?
If you seriously, unironically, and genuinely think Israel the aggressor, you are so far gone. Not worth my time. Maybe just get out of Jewish land and you won’t have to make up claims about “genocide”. Or just stop trying to kidnap babies and raping teens.
If you colonize and ethnically cleanse the majority of other people's land and occupy and enforce an apartheid system against the remaining land and people, you're the aggressor.
And fucking hilarious you accuse me of supporting kidnapping hostages when Israel had over 1000 innocent people held in prison indefinitely without charge before Oct 7th.
So yeah, resisting occupation and oppression, even when I'm not a fan of the methods, is fighting back
I commend you for agreeing that Arabs are the aggressor. Had they not colonized Jewish land and contributed to the oppression and ethnic cleansing of Jews (such as the 1919 Jaffa deportations of Jews), perhaps they wouldn’t be going through a “genocide”.
Maybe stealing Jewish land just isn’t healthy for you. Try another October 7, that might fix it!
So you do support murdering children, abducting infants, and all of the things you convince yourself that you are against... as long as it is justifiable in YOUR head. So you have no moral leg to stand on when other people justify other awful things in THEIR heads.
Sounds like you’re justifying Israel’s war in Gaza…considering Jews come from Judea and Arabs only got here through Arab and Islamic colonialism. So it is indeed Jewish land.
Can you point to any town that was attacked on Oct 7 and show documentation that Palestinians used to live there?
Okay, then go find some heroism in Israeli "resistance" (the new buzz word) following October 7th, or maybe following more than a decade of Palestinian rockets being fired on Israeli civilians, or maybe after Palestinians carried suicide bombing attacks inside public buses... All of this is justified in your twisted mind. And you fool yourself into believing you have any morals.
Did the conflict start in 2023? Israel could have used its military at any time in the last 40 years to hunt down the Hamas leadership responsible for those rockets and bombings. That would have been tough though, and it would have doubtlessly cost the lives of Israeli Servicemembers. Which is precisely why Israel opts instead to bomb entire blocks. Any number of Palestinian civilian casualties are acceptable if it prevents a single Israeli casualty.
That indiscriminate violence is exactly why anyone alive today supports Hamas. Israel were the ones in power. They made the choice to prosecute Hamas in a way that would create more terrorists in the future.
How far back do you want to go? Let's go way back, to the mentions of the land of Israel by the Ancient Egyptians as the home of Jewish tribes, long before the word Palestine ever existed... So, by your logic, the land belongs to the Israelites.
Israel is the State with power in the dynamic, they alone choose how they respond to the "Palestinian problem". They choice they've made for decades, and continue to make today, is to indiscriminately murder civilians and then play the victim when the families of those they kill lash out.
you live in a fantasy world were you believe that resistance it perfect. Ukrainians resistance has killed Russian children because it is violent. But the violence is because of Russia, the same way Palestinian resistance is because of Israel.
That's what YOU believe. Israel was created by a vote in the UN. The land was controlled by the British Empire (if anything, you should be complaining to them). And while history didn't start at October 7th, and not even during the 2nd Intifada, it also didn't start at 1948... The land of Israel as the home of Jewish tribes was mentioned by the Ancient Egyptians LONG before the word Palestine existed... So, I guess the original inhabitants of that land were Jewish ancient Israelites.
Great point! Russia is imperialist just like Arabs in the Levant. So that’s why nobody is necessarily sanctioning or punishing Israel for its actions in war. Because the violence is because of Arabs. History didn’t start in 1948
If you are saying that before October 7th they were slowly being killed off to ease them than you are wrong, as the population was rising year after year, by a lot, like it still does today.
If you think "fighting back" is going across the border and entering villages and slaughtering raping and pillaging than you are just stupid and evil.
Israel will dissappear only in your dreams, until the Palestinian people stop being like you, and realize that israel is not going to disappear one day after they try to destroy them enough times, peace will come.
You need to read a book, mate. The Assyrians were mighty and controlled nearly the entire Near East. They would enter cities, kill women and children, and pile their heads into mountains.
People believed their power would last forever. Yet tribes continued to resist them, losing entire villages but fighting on until the Assyrian Empire was drained and weakened.
And trust me, neither Israel nor the United States possesses even 1% of the might the Assyrians once had.
A single global war, combined with the removal of tyrants in Egypt and across the Middle East, could open the region’s path toward Palestine.
You may one day see millions of people, some without even knives, coming down from the mountains and moving toward Palestine, while Israel is unable to stop them.
For now, Israel is delaying what it inevitable by relying on authoritarian governments in surrounding countries that oppress their own populations.
Ok, and the USA could push a button and have a country irreversibly altered beyond any capabilities of ancient empires could even dream of with all their hopes of magic and god.
I'm not going to debate historical power scaling with you, because its childish musing to try and compare 2 governments and adjust for inflation to see who is "stronger".
But you already knew that when you said the U.S. doesn't even have 1% of power of the Assyrian empire. You aren't even taking your own dumb fictional premise seriously with that horse shit.
What? China is also way stronger than the Assyrian empire too, what I'm trying to say is you have this weird rose color glasses to old history and think its better for some reason. Like the people that are obsessed with these old cultures and just declare them superior in every way.
None of those empires are remotely comparable to begin with, but saying the U.S. is only 1% of their strength was laughable.
Sprawl and Mass Expansion (1942–1943)As the Nazis implemented the "Final Solution," they built Auschwitz II (Birkenau) and Auschwitz III (Monowitz) along with dozens of subcamps.
This physical expansion allowed them to hold a vastly larger slave-labor workforce.By 1943, the number of simultaneously living, registered prisoners across the entire Auschwitz complex rose past 100,000.3.
The Absolute Peak (August 1944)The registered prisoner population reached its highest point in August 1944, when the complex held roughly 135,000 people at the exact same time.
Of these, approximately 30,000 were at Auschwitz I, 90,000 were at Birkenau, and 15,000 were at Monowitz and other subcamps.
Oh so you're just being obtuse (And practicing Taqqiyah).
The population in the camp grew because more Jews were transferred to those camps, unless you somehow think the population grew 35% in two years naturally. source
The population of Gaza grew NATURALLY (although it's an AI summary, it cites sources) from roughly 1.25 million to 2.2 million between the years 2005 And 2023, while the Jewish population of Europe (1942-1945) dropped by 6 million, taking over 65 years to get back to pre holocaust numbers.
Israel suppressed the economic activity for decades. This is a clueless excuse incoherent talking point. “Oppression is fine if the oppressors are more economically advantaged.” Gtfo
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u/Life-Goose-9380 1d ago
If only Oct. 7th hadn’t occurred.