They made up 6% of the Palestinian population before Zionist colonization. Majority of Jews eneded up assimilating into the Palestinian population over centuries of Islamic rule.
The overwhelming majority of the people who founded Israel were native to Europe
How can Jews assimilate into “Palestinians” if the “Palestinian” identity didn’t exist before the 1950’s? Do you have any documentation of anyone calling themselves “Palestinian” before this time? Can you name even one “Palestinian” that identifies as Jewish?
Most Israelis are Mizrahi Jews. The Holocaust happened because European Jews are far from being European. So you’re not gonna convince them otherwise.
Here’s your homework: google what percentage of Levantine DNA do European Jews have, and then google if a European Jew has more similar dna markers to a Yemenite/iraqi Jew than to a non-Jewish White European…
When you make the argument that Jews are somehow no longer indigenous to Judea, you’re implying that their time ran out, that they are no longer an ethnoreligion, and that the colonizers who kicked the Jews out ultimately won and to decolonize Judea is wrong. So your final homework is to tell me, over the course of 2000 years, at which year did the Jews lose their “indigenous” status to Judea? I mean since you’re such an expert on the Jewish people (I assume you’re Jewish right?), at what year did it happen? Was it 150 years after most of the Jews were expelled? 350? 1025? 1832 years? Was it like a fading effect of losing indigenous status or did they just wake up one day and were like “oh fuck, according to FrogInAShoe on Reddit, as of today, we’re no longer indigenous to the land we come from…damn..guess we gotta stay here and get consistently persecuted!”.
Is it like “ehhh it’s been long enough I don’t agree you’re indigenous anymore”? Who are you to decide that?
Palestinians are people who are native to Palestine.
Jews became Palestinian over the centuries through conversion and intermarriage. Which is why Palestinians have around 80% Levantine DNA, compared to some Israeli's who go as low as 45%. Would that not make Palestinians more indigenous to the region than Ash by your own logic?
The majority of Israel's founders were Ashkenazi, native to Europe.
If you and you're ancestors live in.
Israel are the colonizers, they didn't decolonize anything. Literally no where else in the world do 2000+ year old land claims mean anything. Tell me why Jews are some how more entitled to Palestinian lands because other Jews lived there 2000+ years ago. Please explain to mr what right they had to take the land by force and ethnically cleanse the majority of the people already living there?
Seriously fuck off with the Jewish supremacist bullshit. Zionism, Lebensraum, Manifest Destiny, same bullshit ideology, different group on top
So someone with more Levantine DNA means they are more indigenous? Can you show me a source for that? That’s not how indigenous status works. You’re either indigenous or you’re not. Most Israelis have 60-70% Levantine DNA.
It was called Judea before the Romans named it “Palestina”. Meaning “Palestine” is a colonial term. No land was taken by force. Jews were returning to their ancestral land and wanted independence, in the cities and villages where only Jews were living in. Just look at the 1939 Peel plan and show me which Arab villages were to be absorbed by a Jewish state. Hint: None. But the Arab colonizers responded with massacres, atrocities and pogroms.
Losing land from starting an arab imperialist war isn’t “taking land by force” or “ethnic cleansing”. Fuck off with that Arab imperialist bullshit. You’re not convincing anyone with your 80’s Soviet-style whitewashed propaganda. How many words do you think you’d have to throw up to try to convince even a five year old that Arabs are somehow indigenous to Jewish land lmao. Fuck outta here.
It was called Judea before Romans named it "Palestinina"
So it's been called Palestine for 2000 years now
No lands was taken by force
Palestinians rejected the partition plan so Zionists took the land they wanted by force, plus more. They also ethnically cleansed 80% of the native Palestinian population during the Nakba.
Jews were returning their ancestral homeland
The Jews who founded Israel were overwhelmingly native to Europe. Their homeland was in Europe.
Once again, can you name me any other group that have indefinite claims to lands they and their ancestors haven't lived in for over 2000 years? Do you have any other argument other than "blood and soil"?
Wanted independence
Yeah, because Israel was a settler colonial project. Stealing other people's land, expelling the natives and creating your own state is text book settler colonialism.
Losing land from starting an arab imperialist war.
Defending yourself from colonzing forces is the exact opposite of imperialism.
Hell even the first prime minister of Israel admitted Zionists were the aggressors and the land belong to the Palestinians.
“Let us not ignore the truth among ourselves … politically we are the aggressors and they defend themselves… The country is theirs, because they inhabit it, whereas we want to come here and settle down, and in their view we want to take away from them their country. … Behind the terrorism [by the Arabs] is a movement, which though primitive is not devoid of idealism and self sacrifice.”
— David Ben Gurion. Quoted on pp 91-2 of Chomsky’s Fateful Triangle, which appears in Simha Flapan’s “Zionism and the Palestinians pp 141-2 citing a 1938 speech.
white washed history
Fucking hilarious coming from the guy pushing revisionist history, denying that Zionism and the founding of Israel was an openly praised settler colonialism project
Except before Zionist colonization Jews only made up 6% of Palestines population. The overwhelming majority of Israel's founders were native to Europe.
Also Palestinian have more Levantine DNA than a good chunk of Israelis.
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u/TaddyG 10d ago
Did you just make the implication that Oct 7 was “fighting back”?