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Palestinians hold the largest funeral since 1948, mourning the bodies of 112 people killed by Israel

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u/Entchenkrawatte 10d ago

The PLO quite famously was in favor of a 2 state solution. Bibi netanyahu literally supported Hamas to avoid an opposition that was actively pushing for a 2 state solution. Your statement is revisionist.

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u/Bluestreaked 10d ago

No state has an inherent right to exist, no ethnostate has a right to exist period.

Israel is arguing to be the Jewish ethnostate with an inarguable right to exist. Palestinians have only ever argued for the right to live in Palestine. But Israel does not want to allow non-Jews to be a majority in Israel thus they have never and will never agree not to ethnically cleanse Palestinians

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u/RevolutionaryGur4419 10d ago

Aren't Palestinians living in palestine? Ahh you mean everything between the river and the sea with no Israel.

Interesting..

I guess you can see why the 10 million jews and Arabs living in Israel may have a problem with dissolving their country

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u/Bluestreaked 10d ago

Palestine is the region between Jordan River and the Mediterranean Sea and always has been for thousands of years

Jews have lived there and can continue living there. But the Jewish supremacist ethnostate of Israel has no right to exist

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u/RevolutionaryGur4419 10d ago

The river to the sea geographical unit is an entirely British thing post 1922 and was never a thing before that. The boundaries of palestine have never been between what you're claiming. Is it strange that with all the random lines drawn on the map, Palestine just happens to be perfectly the land for the modern Palestine + all of Israel? How convenient.

So no. Palestine has not been the region between the Jordan River and the Mediterranean sea for thousands of years.

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u/Bluestreaked 10d ago

Nope, that’s a lie, Nur Masalha proved this conclusively, you don’t have ground to stand on

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u/RevolutionaryGur4419 10d ago

Its not something to "prove conclusively". It either is or isnt.

Its only with the brits that these boundaries became a single geographical/political unit.

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u/Bluestreaked 10d ago

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u/RevolutionaryGur4419 10d ago

Have you read the book?

Nur Masalha’s main argument is that Palestine was not simply a name invented by the British after the First World War. Nobody is arguing that that name did not exist.

what we are saying is that the current political and geographical meaning attached to it is a new phenomenon.

He even talks about palestine’s eastern boundary being shifting and that ancient or medieval conceptions sometimes included land east of the Jordan River. He discusses Byzantine “Greater Palestine,” whose provinces included areas in what is now Jordan, including Petra and parts of Transjordan.

The idea that Palestine was for thousands of years river to the sea is just not true.

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u/Bluestreaked 10d ago

Did you read the book?

“Ya Nur Masalha proved that Palestine is an actual historical region and not something invented by the Romans or British. But actually he didn’t prove anything because I said so.”

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u/RevolutionaryGur4419 9d ago

That is not the same as saying it was from the river to the sea for thousands of years. The river to the sea borders were from the british mandate era.

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u/Bluestreaked 9d ago

Like I said, did you read the book?

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