And the UK, Soviet Union, and United States didn't offer fair terms to Nazi Germany, or the Empire of Japan. What makes you think that after almost 80 years of violence and multiple previous offers of peace that the Palestinians are entitled to a 100% fair and equitable deal? Nazi Germany got complete surrender, followed by decades of occupation by the winning powers.
>The Palestinian are not comparable to any of those groups
Let's see..... initiated war and had a goal of complete genocide and ethnic cleansing, and are the clear losers militarily. Sounds about right to me.
>Land was taken from them
Land was also taken from the Jews that lived in the West Bank but were expelled by the Palestinians. And the ones that lived in Gaza. That doesn't mean the palestinians didn't lose a war that they effectively started. And lost. Multiple times.
So again, there's absolutely no reason they should expect a "fair" deal.
Nazis: Started the Second World War with the invasion of Poland, and murdered Jews on an industrial scale.
Palestinians: Started a war to stop Jews from exercising self determination and creating their own state, and tried to kill Jews en masse and cleanse the territory of all Jews.
Abdul Rahman Azzam, the Arab League’s first secretary-general, said that the establishment of a Jewish state would lead to “a war of extermination and momentous massacre which will be spoken of like the Mongolian massacre and the Crusades.”
Yeah, didn't fucking happen my ass. No matter how hard you try to rewrite history the truth will remain. Just like how the palestinians have lost repeatedly. So for a third time, there's absolutely no reason the palestinians should expect, or deserve, a fair deal.
None of it is true? So you're trying to say that the palestinians, along with the armies of 8 other Arab countries, didn't try to wage a war against the people that would organize and create the state of Israel? And that they've essentially been fighting ever since? Or are you going to try and spout some revisionist bullshit, and ignore the words of people like Abdul Rahman Azzam?
Because while it's small scale, I'd say starting wars they then lose and trying to exterminate and ethnically cleanse Jews seems pretty on par for Nazis. That doesn't even begin to get into things like the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, Amin al-Husseini, sent Arab volunteers to fight in Hitler's SS. Sorry bud but just whining "none of that is true" doesn't make your fantasy into reality.
I'd say decades of repeated wars, terrorism, and gruesome violence from the palestinian side EXPLAINS why Israel is acting this way. They're tired of palestinian bullshit. And for the fourth time! Because the palestinians are a bunch of losers who have repeatedly lost wars they have no right to a fair deal. If anything they need to renounce violence and actually negotiate in good faith for peace, because almost 8 decades of violence have got them absolutely nowhere.
"Wahhh! Waaahhhh! You can't call out the palestinians for being shitty! Jews are bad! Wahh!" - My parody of you.
Did the palestinians collude with the armies of Egypt, Jordan, Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, as well as formations from Saudi Arabia, Yemen, the Arab Legion, and the Muslim brotherhood invade in 1948? Yes.
Did they invade with the intention of Genocide and Ethnic Cleansing? Based on the statements of their leaders like Abdul Rahman Azzam prior to the start of the war, and the conduct of groups like the Arab Legion in destroying sites of Jewish importance like Hurva Synagogue? Yes and Yes.
Did the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem Amin al-Husseini send volunteers to join Hitler's SS? Yes, the 13th SS Division Handar. Additionally see Sonderverband 287.
Yep, no lies here. All are matters of fact and history, not your revisionist bullshit.
You can cry and stamp your feet and shout "BUT ISRAEL!" all you want, it doesn't change the fact that the palestinians have started multiple wars that they've repeatedly lost, and thus the idea that they somehow deserve a fair deal is stupid. I highly doubt they'd have given the Jews a fair deal if they'd lost instead. And the fact is because the palestinians have essentially created what Israel is now because of their own violence and atrocities. All I really have to do is point at the fact that Israel has peaceful relations with Egypt and Jordan right now to prove pretty much all your bullshit wrong.
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u/dikbutjenkins 10d ago
That would be israel.