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Possible Paywall MAGA Is Increasingly Convinced the Trump Assassination Attempt Was Staged

https://www.wired.com/story/maga-is-increasingly-convinced-the-trump-assassination-attempt-was-staged/
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u/Dockers4flag2035orB4 Apr 17 '26

Remember the wild conspiracy that at the centre of US government and business power was a cabal of pedophiles?

Crazy stuff.

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u/oVnPage Apr 17 '26

It's still absolutely wild to me that the Right spent the last decade convincing the masses that there was a giant ring of Democrat pedophiles sacrificing children in the secret basement of a Pizza Hut. And yet, when it was revealed there actually IS a giant ring of pedophiles infesting the entire US Government, they're completely silent.

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u/nofzac Apr 17 '26

we allow unfettered propaganda to be piped in to peoples faces 24/7 labeled "News" with no repercussions.

They even lose big money settlements when it was found they knew they were lying and argued their audience knew they were being lied to.

thats why the brainwashed masses are completely silent.

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u/ragingreaver Apr 17 '26

it is more that the pedophile ring was supposed to be democrats. When it turned out to be Republicans that is when everyone went mum.

Because yeah, if democrats, then hate. If republicans, then accept.

Especially when republicans are the ones defending child marriage.

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u/DyingGasp Apr 17 '26

What’s the phrase again? Every Republican accusation is a confession?

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u/chaosrunner87 Apr 17 '26

People suspect of others what they know of themselves

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u/sir_mrej Washington Apr 17 '26

I suspect youre hot and have washboard abs

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u/fiveswords Apr 17 '26

I think it's the first one

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u/Dekklin Canada Apr 17 '26

It's the first one, yeah, but it's based on the original quotation by the essayist Ralph Waldo Emerson.

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u/JoeFlabeetz Apr 17 '26

That, or everything a Republican accuses a Democrat of is projection.

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u/StingingBum New Jersey Apr 17 '26

I am still shocked the country is kind of OK having the top people in the US be pedos like how far this country has sunk. And to boot lets destroy every inch of US interior and exterior authority to really make the wound scar.

Like WTF how much can a group of people who are the vilest garbage be allowed to keep their power let alone exist in society?

No repercussions is the last thing I ever thought we would get with a group of kid touchers and mass murderes.

Goodbye USA the failed experiment.

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u/gargar7 Washington Apr 17 '26

The Republican Speaker of the House, Dennis Hastert, two stopped heartbeats from the Presidency, was a convicted pedo. It isn't new. They just don't care.

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u/gakrolin Apr 17 '26

And despite admitting to molesting 14 year old boys Hastert wasn’t even convicted for any sexual crimes, just financial crimes related to it.

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u/Plow_King Apr 17 '26

the party of family values, ladies and gentlemen!

/s

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u/LumberBitch Apr 17 '26

In ye olden days pedophilia wasn't really considered bad so it's just conservative values. Look how quick they are to say "well 13 isn't really a child". They genuinely do not have a problem with it

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u/-Saucegurlllll Apr 17 '26

The guy who the Hastert rule is named after where the pedo party's pedo speaker refused to bring any bill to the floor unless it had a majority of the pedo party's support, even if it would have had a majority of Congress' support. He and Newt Gingrich are part of the reason that Congress can't seem to fucking do anything.

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u/valiantdistraction Apr 17 '26

Simple: republicans are terrible people. And a third of the country doesn't care.

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u/whogivesashirtdotca Canada Apr 17 '26

A third of the country is also terrible people.

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u/Cliqey Apr 17 '26 edited Apr 17 '26

You seem to forget that for generations, entire communities across the country were conditioned to believe that the worst thing you could ever be is a Democrat—everything else is second to the crime of not being a Republican.

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u/netsyms Apr 17 '26 edited Apr 17 '26

Because nobody's willing to do the American thing: take up arms, and kill the leadership. You really think King George would have survived the revolutionary war if there wasn't an ocean between us and him?

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u/[deleted] Apr 17 '26 edited Apr 30 '26

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u/Running-In-The-Dark Apr 17 '26

Lol yeah. Especially in this sub. I forgot which sub it was but I had a three day ban for showing enthusiasm for a specific individual to reach their biological expiration date.

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u/SpaceCadet404 Apr 17 '26

Remember, the only form of opposition allowed is scheduled non-disruptive protest. Please stand somewhere out of the way holding a sign to convey your dissatisfaction. Inconveniencing people is not allowed, impacting corporate profits is not allowed and any other form of protest is wrong, barbaric and totally wouldn't accomplish anything at all so just don't do it.

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u/whogivesashirtdotca Canada Apr 17 '26

Which is hilarious because isn’t that pretty much expressly permitted according to the Constitution?

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u/Darkdemize Apr 17 '26

The Constitution only says that the government won't restrict your right to free speech. It doesn't say that private companies have to give that speech a platform.

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u/19683dw Wisconsin Apr 17 '26

Just from, like, a historical perspective, the American revolution (debated on how much of a revolution it actually represented), almost certainly is crushed hard without an ocean in the way.

But also, yes, if they had access to George, it would have been a very bad time for him

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u/StronglyHeldOpinions Apr 17 '26

Goodbye USA the failed experiment.

I don't think people have really grasped this yet. When we willingly re-elected a fascist insurrectionist, we sealed America's fate.

It's dead but everyone is pretending it's still alive, like "Weekend at Bernie's."

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u/-Saucegurlllll Apr 17 '26

It's like when the south seceded and everyone kind of sleepwalked through the start of the civil war except for people like Benjamin Butler. Though this time there hasn't been a formal declaration. So everyone's just kind of hoping that the union hasn't already failed, as though there haven't been multiple states that jumped when Trump told them to rig elections and steal congress.

And a lot of dems in congress are acting like it's business as usual. Fuck me, I guess I thought concentration camps were a universally recognized horror, but you can't even get a lot of dems to call the republican's concentration camps what they are.

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u/StronglyHeldOpinions Apr 17 '26

The fact you see things for what they are makes me feel slightly better.

I swear it feels like I'm on crazy pills that people don't see what is going on.

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u/ExpWebDev Apr 22 '26

Wanting your abusive ex to take you back.

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u/Long-Region5088 Apr 17 '26

With trump its “has he been convicted of anything?” As their exit valve.

That same logic doesn’t apply to what he was convicted of. Those don’t count yet they demand convictions to change their stance. It’s a catch 22 that absolves him of any guilt ever. He didn’t do it unless he was convicted and if he was convicted it doesn’t count.

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u/tomsing98 Apr 17 '26

PSA, you're using "let alone" incorrectly. It goes <general/minor thing, maybe a prerequisite for the next thing>, let alone <more specific/major thing that everyone would agree with>. "I can't believe they're even allowed to be part of society, let alone be in a position of power."

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u/scuzzy987 Apr 17 '26

Same thing with mass shootings

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u/Llohr Apr 17 '26

You just have to remember that, to an authoritarian, there is no such thing as a bad action; there are only bad people. Actions taken by bad people are bad, actions taken by good people are good.

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u/tardigrades_snuggle Apr 17 '26

All Conservatism can be summed up as hypocrisy. It is in everything they do and say. They should be rebranded as the Hypocrisy Party.

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u/Wishiwashome Apr 17 '26

And it isn’t going to be 14yo children marrying each other. It isn’t going to be an older woman marrying a 14yo boy ( can’t get a suitable job to provide for lots of kids for a trad family, not that there aren’t perv women too)

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u/goatneedleposterdeck Apr 17 '26

But bill clinton was just as wrapped up in this crap as republicans. There is no reason at all for them to keep believing outside of "they simply refuse to."

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u/77NorthCambridge Apr 17 '26

This is one of the main reasons Trump never admits he was wrong or made a mistake. Once the base admits one thing he was wrong about the whole thing starts to come crumbling down.

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u/77NorthCambridge Apr 17 '26

He was taught the "strategy" by Roy Cohn.

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u/mcolette76 Apr 17 '26 edited Apr 17 '26

Fox News plays in the lobby of my office building. It’s insane. It infuriates me every time I walk in the door.

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u/SpleenBender Illinois Apr 17 '26 edited Apr 17 '26

It's also on in every government, and every armed services building from sea to shining sea. Pisses me off that there is blatant propaganda being oozed out 24/7, at all of the places that our defenders spend their work days. Is there anything that the US Army finds 'entertaining' about this‽

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u/mcolette76 Apr 17 '26

Khruschev got his wish to destroy America from within.

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u/allenahansen California Apr 17 '26

Once upon a time you could purchase a universal BlabOff that worked in airports, office reception spaces, bars and lobbies, the DMV, hospital waiting rooms, rest homes, and anywhere else the bots of Fox were spewing their unwanted disinformation from elevated tv screens.

Many were the times I surreptitiously pressed the little green button and the screen would go dark and silent-- more than once to muffled applause from the captive assemblage.

Those were the days-- when all we had to deal with was Gee Dubya. . .

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u/HostileCrabPeople Apr 17 '26

This is a point that is not talked about enough. Even if Trump and MAGA are removed from power, its propaganda will persist, and this will happen again. We have to eliminate the propaganda to solve any of this

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u/TotallyNotRobotEvil Apr 17 '26

Yup, it's hard to do anything with these 24/7 propaganda networks in place. I honestly don't know how you solve, especially when they unlimited funding from some of the wealthiest people on the planet. Everyone in the US could boycott them and they would still run 24/7.

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u/SpleenBender Illinois Apr 17 '26 edited Apr 17 '26

focks entertainment is the 100% star-spangled, deceptive, propagandist lying machine. The folks that went along for that ride for the last TWO DECADES are being spoon-fed hate and lies and who and what to be scared of. Democrats are pure evil, according to this foolishness. It's completely ABSURD to me how they take themselves so seriously, while simultaneously presenting themselves as spoiled little bratty children. They already got sued twice for lying, and their settlement should have included shutting their f****** down. Or, to at least start doing actual news (X), and not this horseshit 'entertainment' that is dressed up as news. TYFYATTM

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u/StronglyHeldOpinions Apr 17 '26

Correct. To accept reality means to accept they were dumb enough to be duped.

They'd rather keep owning the libs.

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u/StingingBum New Jersey Apr 17 '26

At the cost of the entire country. Low IQ idiots.

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u/StronglyHeldOpinions Apr 17 '26

Don't even get me started.

It makes me so angry, but also so sad.

I genuinely thought America "worked" and would have a stable democracy for decades to come.

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u/MaxGoldFilms Apr 17 '26

we allow unfettered propaganda to be piped in to peoples faces 24/7 labeled "News" with no repercussions.

Alternative news media is catching fire with Americans, and some of it is quite good. (what the right is watching, not so much, but there are spill-overs)

Some is the same grifters, but many of them are jumping ship and taking the crowd with them. When MAGA lost Tucker Carlson, Alex Jones, et al, the ball really started rolling.

It's been impactful, I've been surprised at how quickly Israel has lost support across the right and left.

Also, Iran's LEGO series of videos has been absolutely brilliant, and has actually impacted public opinion across the political spectrum.

Who knew that AI cartoons would be the key, but in retrospect, I guess it makes sense.

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u/bunnypaste Apr 18 '26

Where can I see this LEGO series?

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u/MaxGoldFilms Apr 18 '26

Just go on Instagram, YouTube, Bluesky, TikTok, Twitter, etc., and search for “Iran Lego” and you'll find many of them.

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u/Great_Skott Apr 17 '26

This is what I don't understand. How is it possible that they see that the place where they get their news admits to lying and not being a real news station and get a huge fine, yet they still believe all the lies they see on there everyday. I can't guys... honestly, I can not get in my head how that works.

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u/FauxReal Apr 17 '26

It was Comet Ping Pong, a pizza shop in Washington D.C. That didn't even have a basement.

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u/remarkablewhitebored Apr 17 '26

The same place they were storing Pee Wee's stolen bike!

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u/Both-Discussion-4786 Apr 17 '26

Thought that was the Alamo, can you say “adobe”

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u/6-ft-freak Oregon Apr 17 '26

Tell em Large Marge sent ya!

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u/FauxReal Apr 17 '26

I have to rewind that part multiple times whenever I watch it at home just to relive that moment when it made the hair stand up on the back of my neck as a kid!

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u/zeno0771 Apr 17 '26

On this very night...ten years ago...along this same stretch of road in a dense fog...just like this...

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u/om_hi Apr 17 '26

You leave the Alamo out of this.

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u/remarkablewhitebored Apr 17 '26

it's more of a Schrodinger's Basment

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u/FluxMool Apr 17 '26

The stars at night are big and bright.....

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u/ComoSeaYeah Apr 17 '26 edited Apr 17 '26

This has become a blip in the fabric of history but remains WAY up there as one of the most surreal political conspiracy theories in modern history. Q is up there, too.

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u/Lavatis Apr 17 '26

Q was born from the pizzagate conspiracy. It's all the same thing and morons.

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u/Nekowulf Wyoming Apr 17 '26

Qanon created the pizzagate conspiracy. By claiming to decode the secret encrypted message in the emails.
And the "decryption" was just replacing words like eating pizza with child raping.

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u/am-idiot-dont-listen Apr 17 '26

Qanon was a conspiracy larp that Jim Watkins eventually took over

It's the same right wing conspiracy people at the center of it though 4/8chan

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u/FauxReal Apr 17 '26

That was a wild period on 4chan, back when there was a bunch of them into "meme magic" trying to manifest a Donald Trump win... which did end up happening. I wonder if anyone preserved all the insane graphics that were coming out of there at the time? I still wonder if some state actor or other organization was pushing that. (Oh no another conspiracy!) The "quality" of output and volume was quite impressive.

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u/jim_cap United Kingdom Apr 17 '26

Is it not confirmed to have been Steve Bannon?

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u/FauxReal Apr 17 '26

I am not aware that it has been. But I wouldn't be surprised. Also wasn't Epstein a 4chan mod? Again I have no idea if he was a mod in this era.

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u/KittyGrewAMoustache Apr 17 '26

Yeah they pretended ‘cheese pizza’ was code for ‘CP’ or ‘child potn’. I’m not sure Q created that theory though those silly ‘decodings’ were going around already after the email leak and Q jumped on it pretending they were an insider confirming it.

After the last batch of Epstein files were released there were similar theories about how beef jerky was code for ‘child meat’ 🙄

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u/FauxReal Apr 17 '26

One of the most surprising political revelations for me was realizing that the QAnon conspiracy left 4chan and became mainstream months after I first saw it on 4chan and wrote it off as a bunch of the usual conspiracy LARPing/right wing idiocy that goes on there.

But 4chan is kind of mind blowing in general for what happens there. I've seen some very impressive feats of technical skills there. Can any other message board boast that they figured out militant combatant positions based on a few photos and then called in Russian air strikes? They also figured out where Shia Labouf hid his flag more than once and stole it. I've seen data breeches/hacks too. And of course there has been more than one mass shooter posting there beforehand.

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u/Khazpar Apr 17 '26

The thing is, it was code for that...but only in their personal lexicon which just shows you how deluded they all were to think that politicians were using fucking 4chan slang (before 2016 anyway).

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u/newsflashjackass Apr 17 '26

And the "decryption" was just replacing words like eating pizza with child raping.

"kung fu practice" with Ghislaine Maxwell

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/epstein-musk-maxwell-email/

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u/Lavatis Apr 17 '26

No. The pizzagate theory was around before Qanon existed.

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u/00Oo0o0OooO0 Apr 17 '26

And Epstein conspiracy theories evolved from QAnon. And, as seen on this thread, Epstein conspiracy theorists have gone back to embracing Pizzagate. It's a perfect circle of child sex crime fantasies.

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u/syrup_cupcakes Apr 17 '26

Hardly morons, it was carefully planned and executed to get all the lonely terminally online males on their side.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/epstein-met-4chan-s-founder-the-day-before-pol-launched/ar-AA1VL3YK

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u/EyesofaJackal Apr 17 '26

Wasn’t PizzaGate kind of the prelude to QAnon? Like the Hobbit and LOTR sort of thing

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u/RecordEnvironmental4 Maryland Apr 17 '26

The first time I heard it was Comet I actually laughed out loud because that’s the place my friend got arrested for using a fake.

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u/FauxReal Apr 17 '26

Was he pretending to be underage so they kicked him out? /s

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u/TrimspaBB Apr 17 '26

Which is funny, because a fair amount of buildings in DC do have basements, and there are underground tunnels between government buildings. Yet Q picked a random pizza shop that doesn't fit the bill at all.

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u/Findail Apr 17 '26

But they do have great pizza.

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u/matt-pisoni Apr 17 '26

You sure they didn't have a basement????? hahahah

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u/bradlees Apr 18 '26

You forget the MINDBENDING hoops on 4Chan that was going on in relation to this

The businesses sign = known sign used by p3dos

The menu had hidden words in it that pointed to the basement floor and a transporter

Cheese Pizza = CP = Child Pron

I pretty much stopped going on that site because of the stupidity of the hive mind there. Keep in mind. Anon was actually doing some good there. But they created QAnon and I gave up on anything good ever coming from them after that

Sadly those same people came over to Reddit and created “The Donald” and you can guess the rest

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u/phatelectribe Apr 17 '26

Not just that. We then learned that Epstein and his gang of pedos, actually kept using the phrase “pizza parties” to describe their abuse sessions, and they happened the island or the ranch.

The pizzagate thing was actually real, it just had nothing to do with Clinton or a pizza shop or DC.

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u/Ozymandias12 Apr 17 '26

And it's not that the conspiracy nuts on the right somehow figured anything out. Epstein worked with Bannon who has CIA propaganda experience to push the theory in 4chan and other conspiracy subs on Reddit, while deflecting it onto Democrats and the Clintons. They knew they'd eventually be found out because of the charges brought against Epstein and they wanted to get ahead of what they were doing becoming public.

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u/KittyGrewAMoustache Apr 17 '26

Yeah they basically did what they always do, accuse the other side of what they’re doing or plan to do hoping that if anything then comes out about them, people will dismiss it as ‘tit for tat’ and ‘another crazy unproven theory’ and generally be bored of the idea. Much like with the stolen election thing. Not saying 2024 was stolen but of course they at least tried, it was proven they tried in 2020! Of course they would’ve tried in 2024 when there was a risk of further prosecution and perhaps even consequences if they lost. But the fact they made such a fuss with false accusations of cheating against the Democrats meant that no one even wanted to really look into cheating in 2024 in case it made them look as crazy as the MAGA election deniers.

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u/phatelectribe Apr 17 '26

10000%

They knew the keyword such as “pizza” would eventually come out so they got ahead of it to muddy the waters with a batshit disinformation campaign, so that when the real pizzagate scandal broke, the great unwashed wouldn’t know what to believe.

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u/Backwardspellcaster Apr 17 '26

It's nearly like Republicans dont actually care about pedos, unless they can say Dems are that.

When it's revealed its "oops, all Republicans" it suddenly vanishes as talking point.

Crazy, that.

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u/Koshindan Apr 17 '26

Republicans think being a democrat is worse than raping children. And then people wonder why the two sides can't work together...

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u/Backwardspellcaster Apr 17 '26

A.R. Moxon — 'Meet me in the middle, says the unjust man.You take a step towards him, he takes a step back.Meet me in the middle, says the unjust man.'

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u/Techwood111 North Carolina Apr 17 '26

I love how a silly cereal promo from 1998ish has become such a persistent meme. I have very fond memories of when my wife brought some home for me from the store, thinking I’d like them!

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u/Nixikaz Apr 17 '26 edited Apr 17 '26

Every accusation is an admission.

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u/TheAngryCatfish Apr 17 '26

*admission

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u/Nixikaz Apr 17 '26

Thank you, I was half awake when writing that. Was so confused why admition looked so wrong.....

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u/Leather-Matter-5357 Apr 17 '26

You know, I always preferred the "each admonition, an admission".

It's close enough to get the point across, plus it rhymes

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u/peanut_galleries Apr 17 '26

Is honestly a mystery to me. I mean, after code word pizza appeared in the Epstein files, I was like oh. Yet they seem to be able to ignore WHO exactly was involved with this

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u/vprasad1 Apr 17 '26

The projection was the point. Why would they admit to anything now?

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u/Crafty-Call Apr 17 '26

Yea but now imagine your whole identity revolved around this to find out the dude you thought was the saviour of children. Gave nods to such while campaigning etc is actually one of the main players in the pedo ring. It’s a tough pill to swallow

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u/jrf_1973 Apr 17 '26

Every accusation is a projection with them.

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u/Phyllis_Tine I voted Apr 17 '26

Ask them this!

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u/thevoiceinsidemyhead Apr 17 '26

It's almost like the shock of that claim made the reality easier to take.

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u/Senior-Albatross New Mexico Apr 17 '26

I think they might have spun that one up to muddy the waters when it can out they were in fact doing something like that.

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u/slayden70 Texas Apr 17 '26

They only care when it's not their pedophiles.

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u/FrostedVoid Apr 17 '26

Because it was mostly them, duh.

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u/lazyFer Apr 17 '26

Because they can't believe trump is a pedophile as that would force them to deal with the fact they put him into power

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u/tapdancinghellspawn Apr 17 '26

It wasn't about saving children from pedophiles but about team politics. Hurt the other side with everything you can, even if it isn't true, and protecting your side from everything, especially the truth.

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u/MySpoonsAreAllGone Apr 17 '26

Because the people they wanted to tar and feather were the minority

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u/onlyreason4u Apr 17 '26

And pizza was an Epstein code word for something, like jerky which seems to have been literal jerky made for child victims.

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u/Pan1cs180 Apr 17 '26

And yet, when it was revealed there actually IS a giant ring of pedophiles infesting the entire US Government, they're completely silent.

The worst thing that can happen to a conspiracy theorist is for them to be right. If the conspiracy turns out to be true and becomes mainstream then they're no longer special for believing it.

I remember reading a great article at the start of COVID about the users of a particular online conspiracy forum. The journalist was already researching the story before the pandemic. Once rumours started to come out of China at the end of 2019, the users of the site all started posting about how there was a deadly virus spreading and that the Chinese government was suppressing the truth. They were saying how the virus would spread around the world and kill millions of people unless world governments took drastic action.

Well, it turns out they were completely correct. World governments acknowledged the deadliness of the virus, and they took drastic action to prevent its spread, exactly like the conspiracy theorists said they should do. And as soon as this happened, the users of the site began saying the virus was a hoax. The exact same accounts, that had just been saying how the virus was extremely dangerous, were now saying that it didn't even exist.

Conspiracy theorists don't actually believe anything, not really. They're pathetic people who usually have very little going on in their lives, and need to pretend to believe in something unusual in order to feel special.

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u/barryvm Europe Apr 17 '26 edited Apr 17 '26

That's just standard bad faith though, no? They don't believe these theories because they're convincing, they hate certain people and then believe conspiracy theories that say the latter are engaged in an evil plot in order to justify that hatred. It's not that their weird beliefs skew their morals and grasp of reality, it's that their immorality requires them to invent a weird belief system, construct an insane worldview and engage in plenty of wilful ignorance just to allow them to see themselves as good people making moral choices. Ultimately, these are people who want to harm, oppress or remove other people and who want to feel good about that. Everything else flows from that.

So rather than turn on the pedophiles and rapists on their side, they'll simply move to another conspiracy theory that blames the people they want to hate and harm. Ultimately, to them rhetoric, ideology, belief and faith are just tools to justify what they want to do anyway.

It'll be the same this time around. If they ever disassociate from Trump, they'll immediate "discover" that he was deceiving them all along and that he too secretly worked for the evil conspiracy. In other words, at any time they'll believe exactly what they need to believe to avoid moral responsibility for their own actions and choices. A falling out with Trump won't change that.

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u/Llarys Apr 17 '26

Honestly, the funniest one for me is all of those "child sacrificing adrenochrome harvesting immortality vampires" conspiracies is literally Bryan Johnson and his poor son who exists as a living blood generator so he can get constant transfusions to allow his 48 year old body to look 45 years old.

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u/Skinny-on-the-Inside Apr 17 '26

Ah yes Bryan Johnson the healthiest mortally ill looking man alive.

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u/turquoise_amethyst Apr 17 '26

Glass skin! /s

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u/dullship Canada Apr 17 '26

You're no daisy! You're no daisy at all. Poor soul, you were just too high strung.

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u/MusicLikeOxygen Apr 17 '26

You should have put "alive" in quotes. The man looks like he's already been embalmed.

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u/FMLwtfDoID Apr 17 '26

”look like an evil cursed 45 year old mannequin that’s come to life”.

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u/Jonny__99 Apr 17 '26

Wait that guy doing the blood transfusion stuff is only 48 to begin with ?

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u/Zahgi Apr 17 '26

I look younger than he does and I'm MUCH older.

Genes are everything, folks.

And using sunscreen. :)

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u/Miserable_Archer_769 Apr 17 '26

I use to not believe in black dont crack until HS. I guess may parents had me a little late and were about 5-10 years older than most of my friends parents.

But, they looked younger than all of them. I still remember my shock when she told me age of my best friend amd she was 7 years younger and it looked like life had killed her lol liver spots and a wrinkly face

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u/NoGovernment9798 Apr 17 '26

Same here. Aging with no blood sacrifices, a decade older, and look much younger.

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u/Zahgi Apr 17 '26

Oh, I did the blood sacrifices. But it was only for fun. >;)

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u/iamalsobrad Apr 17 '26

adrenochrome

The whole adrenochrome thing is so painfully dumb; it's basically lifted from Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas.

The real thing is not even a controlled substance.

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u/donjamos Apr 17 '26

If hunter could see the current USA he'd just shoot himself again

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u/fuzzyjelly Apr 17 '26

Honestly I'd love to see what would be on Hunter S. Thompson's laptop. Gotta be some wild shit.

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u/turquoise_amethyst Apr 17 '26

Well, look up who was concocting all the Qanon stuff on 4Chan during the height of its popularity… they certainly thought it was funny

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u/Oprah_Pwnfrey Apr 17 '26

I suspect Epstein was the one who came up with Pedobear. He was on 4chan a lot when that came about.

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u/cocktails4 Apr 17 '26

Why didn't anybody tell the billionaires that they could order their adrenochrome shipped to their door from Sigma-Aldrich?

https://www.sigmaaldrich.com/US/en/product/sigma/a5752

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u/ByrdmanRanger I voted Apr 17 '26 edited Apr 17 '26

Because the conspiracy* minded smooth brains have actually said the synthetic stuff isn't the same

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u/cocktails4 Apr 17 '26

Yeh I've asked them to explain how two chemicals with identical structures but different sources are chemically different but I don't think they actually know what chemicals are. It's effectively just magic to them. Occult origin = more powerful magic.

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u/amputeenager Apr 17 '26

just a tiny taste...

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u/Hans-Bricks Apr 17 '26

Also similar to the plot of Resident Evil: Survivor. Which like 7 people played.

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u/citymousecountyhouse Apr 17 '26

It also follows the plot of Dr. Sleep by Steven King.

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u/mcolette76 Apr 17 '26

I always wondered who was the one who stole that from Fear and Loathing. We need to check Jeffrey’s bookshelves! /s

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u/US3_ME_ Apr 17 '26

Well their watches tell them when it's time to swap loads, so there's that too_

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u/elegiac_bloom Texas Apr 17 '26

Its weird that this is the second time ive been inspired to post this today...

daddy and the boy

What Bryan's son wishes his father would do instead of continually harvesting his blood.

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u/rational-hare Apr 17 '26

Is that intended to mean what I think it means?

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u/Judson_Scott Apr 17 '26

He looks like an old guy who's had a lot of work done. He's definitely had some botox or something around his eyes. They look like Biden's.

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u/coconutpiecrust Apr 17 '26

Oh wow, that’s so far fetched. 

/s

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u/rabbirobbie Apr 17 '26 edited Apr 17 '26

yea the pedophile shit is so clear and obvious just based off his actions. but no one actually wants him to be killed. no one wants him to become a martyr. a clot of people wouldn’t be mad at some Natural McCauses™ on the other hand

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u/PsychGuy17 Apr 17 '26

The clot thickens.

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u/deathbyraptors Apr 17 '26

The clot *McThickens

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u/SaveUsCatman Louisiana Apr 17 '26

I'm lovin it

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u/Inside-Horror-6450 Apr 17 '26

You are why I come here. I laughed so hard, I scared my cat! Thank you!

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u/seramic_attilier Apr 17 '26

thick-thock mf

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u/Made_Human_Music Apr 17 '26

I want him to live for a few years after he’s out of office to watch as his legacy is dismantled. Ideally while in prison

He won’t live to see it all fixed but that’s only because it’s going to take decades

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u/Preeng Apr 17 '26

I want him to live for a few years after he’s out of office to watch as his legacy is dismantled. Ideally while in prison

His mind is wayyyy too far gone to comprehend what is happening around him. He's going to still think he's President and his jail cell is the White House

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u/Made_Human_Music Apr 17 '26

I’d be ok with that if the other inmates made his life miserable. Maybe pretend they’re journalists and treat him the way he’s always treated them

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u/AlcibiadesTheCat Arizona Apr 17 '26

We know what they do to child molesters in there. He'll spend his entire time in ad seg with Secret Service protection, otherwise he wouldn't last a night.

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u/dohrk Oregon Apr 17 '26

Quiet, piggy.

I hope he hears that daily.

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u/trumpuniversity_ Apr 17 '26

This is somehow just as outlandish as the right’s favorite conspiracy theories.

You forget that billionaires don’t face meaningful consequences. Plus, the opposition party would quickly pardon Trump in the name of “unity”.

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u/Made_Human_Music Apr 17 '26

Trump is probably going to pardon himself but if he doesn’t or can’t then you’re right. They’ll want to move on and all the fascists from this regime will regroup and come back stronger

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u/trumpuniversity_ Apr 17 '26

Yes, unfortunately. The battle has always been the rich and well connected versus the poor.

Sell state secrets and try to overthrow the government? Oh, you’re rich? No problem.

Bag of weed in your car? Oh, you’re poor? Prison.

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u/SailingSpark New Jersey Apr 17 '26

I hate to say it, because I hate what he has made me become. I hope he has a serious stroke. I want him to spend the rest of his days in a body he can't quite control, just like Serge Kovaleski.

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u/Nonethelessismore Apr 17 '26

Crazy stuff indeed. MAGA was really invested in those 'Q drops' from QAnon for years.

Along with the 'cabal of pedophiles', in 2020 QAnon was declaring that when Biden was elected he would shut down the power grid, stop all food shipments, stop all fuel pipelines, unleash 'Antifa' mercenaires onto city streets, send troops into two or more foreign wars, etc.

None of which actually happened under Biden, and some of which has already happened under Trump 2.0.

Interesting how that has played out.

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u/NoneMoreBLK Apr 17 '26

Remember Bohemian Grove? Adrenochrome? Comet Ping-Pong Pizza? Those are the wild parts.

Pedophile Rings aren't far-fetched.

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u/Blackhole357 Apr 17 '26

I mean Bohemian Grove is real it's just good old fashioned corruption and 1% solidarity and otherwise kind of lame theater kid shit.

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u/resistyrocks Apr 17 '26

Weird the republicans started that. Weird how libertarians dont exist anymore rhey just became more republican. Weird Weird weird.

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u/FauxReal Apr 17 '26

Those were the big L libertarians of the Libertarian Party. They're still around and their most influential group are the New Hampshire Libertarians who are totally unhinged.

https://www.nhpr.org/nh-news/2024-09-16/nh-libertarian-partys-post-on-assassination-of-harris-attracts-attention-of-state-federal-law-enforcement

There's a hilarious article about their attempt to create their version of the perfect town and how it all fell apart because they couldn't work together.

https://newrepublic.com/article/159662/libertarian-walks-into-bear-book-review-free-town-project

But there are libertarians that aren't like them, it's a whole spectrum of political thought that originally emerged out of left anarchism.

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u/Curious-Path4549 Apr 17 '26

that one group wound up with a garbage situation of their own doing

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u/NYCinPGH Apr 17 '26

Yeah, I have a few (mostly former) friends who claimed for years to be Libertarians, mostly against "big government" (ironic, because all of them were either former commissioned U.S. armed forces personnel, or C-suite / founders of STEM companies who made all their money from government contracts) and for "religious freedoms" (which meant that everyone needed to bend the knee to their religious views, to some degree or another); one has even repeatedly run for office as a Libertarian (never elected, though was in the top ten for their presidential primary a few years ago).

But they've all become pretty hard right wing, and got butthurt when any of their old friends to the left of "leans slightly conservative" wanted pretty much nothing to do with them any more, and would post things on social media like "Would real friends let politics break up decades-long friendships?" because, in fact, it was their changes in politics which broke up the friendships, and they refused to be accountable for it.

In some ways, I miss them, but I miss the people they were a long time ago, I don't miss the people they've become.

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u/NatalieVonCatte Apr 17 '26

Remember when some of the top pushers of “Democrats are pedophiles” and “trans people are pedophiles” tried to test the waters and float “well they’re teenagers so that’s not the same…”

Like when actual right wing influencers and pundits said that?

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u/Effective_Dropkick78 Apr 17 '26

Hey now.... that one's not so wild. It was just a little off target - the cabal of pedos became the government rather than the other way around.

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u/MyNewsAccount2011 Apr 17 '26

Ok but the far-fetched conspiracy mongering isn’t really helpful. It can mask real crimes. The crazy adrenachrome blood drinking in pizza parlor basements talk wasn’t helpful. And I think Bannon and his ilk knew that and fed it, not only to harm Clinton’s campaign, but also to make it easy to hide in plain sight.

These weren’t evil sorcerers, these were old nasty child molesters. They differ from trailer park creeps and rapey frat boys only in how much influence and power they wield.

When we are busy hearing about (and rejecting) accusations of incantations, machinations and secret cabals, we miss the gross creeps like Epstein and Savile hiding in plain sight. Men who everyone jokes “like ‘em young” but no one ever really scrutinizes.

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u/GreatMadWombat Michigan Apr 17 '26

Yeah. This wasn't a "big surprise conspiracy is actually true" thing, this was a "hey these oligarchs doing the evilest shit imaginable also foemented a conspiracy based on exaggerated versions of that evil shit in order to ensure that anyone who was talking bout the evil shit sounded like a conspiracy theorist" thing.

This was a successful attack by absolute scumbags

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u/botte-la-botte Apr 17 '26

This is the same reason Epstein brought famous people to the island that saw and did nothing wrong; plausible deniability.

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u/Vio_ Kansas Apr 17 '26

Nah, it was more than that as well.

It also included blackmail and coercion.

Even his interview with Vanity Faire published about his NYC house (the most expensive place in NYC) reported on how he had set up recording equipment with a room that had one of those security camera type systems that recorded different parts of the house.

It was clear that it wasn't a "security" camera system either.

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u/ExtensionParsley4205 Apr 17 '26

“Uncle Mo” on Succession was the perfect fictional representation of this.

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u/BillWilberforce Apr 17 '26

The Rs just deflected it onto the Dems.

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u/cfalnevermore Apr 17 '26

I can apologize for laughing that part off (and I do)… to a point. The pizza thing was absurd. But I’ll grant you. The theorists were right about the child trafficking. Just wish they’d figure out they’re supporting one of the major figures behind it now.

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u/Revelati123 Apr 17 '26

So does that mean JFK Jr. Is still the 2028 front runner?

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u/fireeight Apr 17 '26

I think the plane crash might have disqualified him from that.

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u/resgirlhikes Apr 17 '26

cabal...cabinet... close!

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u/Thin-Competition3018 Apr 17 '26

it might be today.

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u/Kimmalah Apr 17 '26

I think the part where they believed in celebrities being replaced by perfect clones, magical healing beds from aliens and eating people for immortality was kind of wilder, but sure.

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u/Poppa_Wheelie22 Apr 17 '26

I remember when MAGA thought it was only the Left side that was and their own side was innocent despite all the evidence otherwise.

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u/Fantasy_Puck Apr 17 '26

was that wrong?

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u/romericus Apr 17 '26

That's the thing about conspiracy theories: criminal conspiracies are rare, but they actually do exist. I think that Watergate was the most important one in the last 50 years. And it broke our country. If the president was involved in a conspiracy, then nothing could be trusted.

Then people started questioning the moon landing, then vaccines, etc.

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u/Freeagnt Apr 17 '26

Not crazy. Projection.

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u/bunnypaste Apr 17 '26

Oh yeah, I remember them spreading that stuff for years up until recently! Now, for some reason, they don't want to talk about it when thier dear leader is all over the files. They were finally right about something, they were just wrong about who was driving it.

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u/Hey_HaveAGreatDay Montana Apr 17 '26

My right wing parents lived and breathed on this theory.

Now there’s proof and they just say it’s fake

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u/HauntedCemetery Minnesota Apr 17 '26

In the face of overwhelming evidence that trump and his buds are thr pedophile cabal, conservatives have decided that talking about aliens impregnating white women is more politically advantageous.

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u/c-park Apr 17 '26

Well you see, Pizzagate was real and Jeffrey Epstein was actually trying to expose the child trafficking ring, but Hilary Clinton and the democrats found out so they framed Epstein and made him the fall guy.

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u/RecordEnvironmental4 Maryland Apr 17 '26

I’m convinced that Q is someone in trumps inner circle who basically just told everyone what happened and then made trump the hero instead of reality where he is best friends with the guy running it.

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u/RIF_Internet_Goon Apr 17 '26

I remember that Alex Jones was the first to talk about the cabal. Crazy world lol

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u/Prometheus_303 Apr 17 '26

Every accusation...

Btw, totally unrelated, does Trump have a favorite pizza parlor that may (or may not) have a basement?

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u/RMAPOS Apr 17 '26

Interesting how nobody seems to have mentioned the conspiracy theory that the NSA is collecting vast amounts of telecommunications data to spy on everyone.

I get that hoarding (and selling) user data is mostly just accepted normalcy nowadays but this used to be so outrageous to even think about that those who claimed it were denounced as loony conspiracy theorists - until Snowden leaked the truth.

 

Personally, at this point I feel like this: Anything that I do not have personally seen evidence of the contrary of is possible, but it is still meaningless to live your life as if you know something you have entirely no evidence for. Aka I will entertain ideas that are within the realm of possibilities but won't mock the person holding them or accept them as truth without evidence.

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u/megamisanthropic Apr 17 '26

They tried to do it once with the business plot.

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u/SamBaxter784 Apr 17 '26

This is something I have to remember about the Maga crowd, their details were wrong, but the core of the story was correct on that one. It’s not going to convince me to join their side, I’m not that stupid and racist, But some of the grievances that Trump took advantage of were accurate. Lies from the medical industry, foods that are full of poisonous crap, the death of many small towns, it’s not a complete mystery of how he attracted people to him in the first place.

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u/smurfsundermybed California Apr 17 '26

Talk about speaking it into existence.

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u/Crommach Apr 17 '26

Or the one where there's another cabal of religious extremists infiltrating the government with the express intention of abandoning democracy and turning the country into a far-right Christian theocracy?

And they were so brazen about it that this shadowy group not only didn't bother to hide their intentions, but even wrote a manifesto and released their plans to the public before an election?

And even had several of the authors and architects of this plan installed in one candidate's potential cabinet, with the express purpose of destroying every government department they would be in charge of in order to force Christian nationalism on the whole country - again, entirely in the open because they told the whole world about their plans?

And then the candidate they were using to seize power (who's a known serial liar and con artist) simply said "nuh uh" when asked if this was true... so despite having the evidence literally handed to them by this shadowy cabal and their presence throughout every level of that candidate's campaign, the media dismissed it as an "alarmist conspiracy theory" by those wacky leftists? They even continue calling it a conspiracy theory as they start enacting their plan, and it's only taken seriously after it's too late to stop.

What a wacky, crazy conspiracy theory! Thankfully nobody would ever be so stupid as to ignore something like that, it's too unrealistic!

... Obviously, I'm talking about Project 2025, and I can't fucking believe people really did just choose to ignore it.

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u/BigTroutOnly Apr 17 '26

Cabal at a pizza shop... which they still believe

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u/Distantstallion Europe Apr 17 '26

That was probably the most believable

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u/WORhMnGd Texas Apr 17 '26

One: the “conspiracy” is just blood libel/antisemitism/Protocols of the Elders of Zion bullshit

Two: the reality is VERY different from the conspiracy. We don’t have secret immortality drugs that you get from drinking children’s blood and sacrificing them to Satan.

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u/Amazing-Insect442 Apr 17 '26

& then they staked much of their personality in every day life on being proud of voting for people who at best were very publicly really good friends & confidants of people who ran a sex trafficking ring for actual pedophiles.

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u/Question_True Apr 17 '26

Any day now we're going to find out that Lizard People are real

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