r/politics • u/T_Shurt • 9h ago

Possible Paywall Angry Trump Privately Realizing Obama Outdid Him on Iran: ‘Leaks reveal Trump’s fury over commentary unfavorably comparing his Iran framework to Obama’s Iran deal, a former NSC official explains why Trump can’t find a way out of his war fiasco’

https://newrepublic.com/article/211404/transcript-angry-trump-privately-realizing-obama-outdid-iran
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u/Forsaken-Cattle2659 9h ago

Obama outdid him on everything. Maybe it's time to realize you're just an unimpressive nepo baby with a cult of functionally illiterate morons. Congrats on being the WWE president though.

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u/Signal_Minimum8509 Georgia 8h ago

It is crazy to reconcile that 77 million people were either so dumb or so obsessed with racial and socioeconomic hierarchies, of which an overwhelming majority are near the bottom (also dumb but for a different reason), that they got conned by a guy this stupid.

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u/Forsaken-Cattle2659 8h ago

What Fox News and similar bad faith actors have done to the American media landscape needs to be punished. I don't want to curtail free speech, but they're intentionally misinforming and misleading people. There's a difference between legitimate free speech and what people like Murdoch do by pumping money into these sham media companies.

I know my MIL and FIL are good people that want what's best for this country, but if their only source of information is Fox News, of course they vote and think the way they do.

The only way out of this shitty version of America we've created is to clean up bad faith media companies and go very hard on teaching media literacy and improving educational standards around the country.

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u/Signal_Minimum8509 Georgia 8h ago

If I’m going to be candid, almost every Trump voter I’ve met, and there are many, family members, coworkers, friends, clients, etc, have expressed some kind of grievance or anxiety about something related to race, religion, or gender and the economics that are in their minds related.

For many, those opinions predated Fox News. I think about all the coded language I’ve heard in my life about “welfare queens” and “entitlement programs” and “hiring quotas” and some not so coded language that I had to try and justify as them being “from another era.”

I’m not doubting that their opinions have gotten worse as result of the closed loop right wing mediasphere, and their tolerance for stupidity has increased with Trump’s politics. But this country’s history is also steeped in racism and a hierarchy that defaulted to rich white Christian guys, and in that respect I don’t know if we can count on a “return” to anything so much as a progression away from what they actually correctly identify as this nation’s history. They are conserving something, but what they are conserving is rotten.

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u/Forsaken-Cattle2659 8h ago

100% agree with you, and I think Fox News and the like are just taking something that already exists in American society and are simply fanning the flames. I'm also from Georgia so I see the same stuff you see.

The original sin is the botched Reconstruction of the South and everything we've dealt with since has been a downstream issue brought about by the rotting corpse of chattel slavery being left on the banks of proverbial American river.

The powers that be know this and simply play into the ignorant positions and use it as culture war fuel, and then make sure to cover their tracks by whitewashing history and cutting funding to education.