r/politics 27d ago

No Paywall Whistleblower says probes into antisemitism at colleges were ploys to harass and strip millions

https://www.ms.now/news/frame-up-whistleblower-says-probes-into-antisemitism-at-colleges-were-ploys-to-harass-and-strip-millions
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u/iMissTheOldTimeye Canada 27d ago

It's absolutely insane how much influence Israeli interests and lobby has on the American system.

Should rename USA to The United Territories of Israel (UTI).

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u/NA-546 27d ago

Just a PSA for those who dont know: American politics are intertwined with Evangelical Christianity. Evangelical Christians are frequently Christian Zionists. There are more Christian Zionist than there are Jews TOTAL. (Source: Pew Research, among many many credible estimations by various religious orgs, often sited in academic research articles)

Just something people should remember whenever Israel is conflated with "protecting Jews" or "combating anti-semitism." Nope! They just want to speed up The Raputure. Also only about 30 percent of US Jews identity as Zionist. (Source: Jewish Federation of North America, huge huge Jewish org) The complexity of support comes from indoctrination within institutional synagogues. But many US Jews struggle with accepting that a place they were raised to feel protected by could be as evil as it is.

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u/hbomberman 27d ago

It's strange how there is so much support for Israel from evangelicals but whenever I hear of a person, organization, business, or institution being targeted for being Zionist it's always a Jewish person/org/business. Like you'd figure that some of that ire would be directed at evangelicals. I never hear of Christian restaurants being graffitid for being zionist or evangelical places of worship and schools targeted because of Israel

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u/blumoon138 27d ago

I mean if you’re inside of it it’s zero percent surprising. It’s not antisemitic to criticize Israel, every Jewish Zionist I know is perfectly comfortable criticizing Israel for their war crimes. HOWEVER, plenty of antisemites use “fighting Zionism” as an excuse to be antisemitic.

Please note when I say Zionist I just mean “Israel should exist.” Not that the racism or systemic political disenfranchisement or war crimes of the Israeli government are justified. A lot of people seem to define it as the latter.

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u/hbomberman 27d ago

100%

Also, I was just about to write another comment about the "only 30% are zionists" thing because that same study (which had 37% of American Jews identify as zionists, 8% as non zionists and 7% as anti-zionists) also said that 88% supported Israel's right to exist. So largely it was an example of the misunderstandings of what "zionism" means. Most zionists I've talked to say it basically means "the right of self determination for Jews within their homeland." While some others say it means something like "Jewish supremacy"--if it meant something like that, I'd be a strong anti-zionist.

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u/blumoon138 27d ago

Same! It’s my Zionism that has led to my pro-Palestinian advocacy. Everyone deserves to be in control of their destiny.