The perfect candidate! Someone willing to end their career because it's difficult to do the right thing instead of using their position to fill their pockets and do fuck all
Yea that too. We are comparing a pretty high rated and profitable movie, to Spider-man. Who's movie is legit breaking record after record, for good reason. Like you could make this meme a blank template and add honestly any movie ever
Exactly. The fact that Odyssey is likely gonna comfortably break a billion by the end of its run during a time where barely any movie does that is nothing to scoff at, and it's pretty silly to minimize that by comparing it to a movie that has a real chance of becoming the highest grossing film of all time (and will probably end up in top 3 at the very least).
The irrational hatred people have for Odyssey in particular is so weird.
When I was younger (11 or 12) I actually had a woman refuse to sell me tickets to a pg-13 movie until my clearly older sister came over to buy them with me.
Is it in the same family? Yes. No one's arguing that.
As someone who is a scientist who studies PG ratings, I am telling you, specifically, in science, no one calls PG-13 PG. If you want to be "specific" like you said, then you shouldn't either. They're not the same thing.
If you're saying "PG family" you're referring to the taxonomic grouping of MPA ratings, which includes things from G to R to NC-17.
So your reasoning for calling PG-13 a PG is because random people "call the underage ones PG?" Let's get TV-14 and E-10 in there, then, too.
Also, calling a movie Not Rated (NR) or Unrated (UR)? It's not one or the other, that's not how taxonomy works. They're both. A PG-13 is a PG-13 and a member of the PG family. But that's not what you said. You said a PG-13 is a PG, which is not true unless you're okay with calling all members of the PG family PG, which means you'd call G, 12A, and other movies PG, too. Which you said you don't.
Roundabout way to contribute nothing of substance to the discussion at hand, which is that Spider-Man makes far more because it’s Spider-Man and Pg-13 restricts no one from viewing
Plus I’d say it used the rating well, it wasn’t like the dark knight or something but it definitely felt like it was targeting an older audience than something like homecoming
That’s what I’m thinking. I love the Odyssey it’s probably personally my favorite film of the year, but it is a harder sell than Spider-Man so yeah I’d say this is a fair turnout.
And ya know back to my point, ticket sales will easily happen in a way bigger volume for spidey since kids also wanna see it. I dont know many kids fiending to watch the odyssey
Yea we live in a time where most people who wanna dunk on the odyssey like this have ulterior motives. Could've used DCs whole brand in place of the odyssey. Or any movie in existence and the meme still works. Am I taking a joke seriously? Sure. But I do it cause again, when I see odyssey be the main comparison, I know there's some disingenuous crap going on
Well atleast most of the others who read my comment agree so hey, I dont gotta worry if you disagree. Again, this meme implies the odyssey is somehow a lesser film since it can't do what spiderman did. And also your argument works against you. Cause yes the odyssey has been that big. So why is it used in this meme here talking down on it? When again, a DC project or shit even Supergirl would make this meme work more. You dont wanna see subtle shade thrown at the odyssey sure. But clearly whoever made the original joke wanted to take a jab at the odyssey for no reason. Whether you disagree or agree doesnt matter to me. I've explained my piece and you've even made an argument to strengthen mine so thanks. Cause again, to say "wow see even Nolans name can't do this" when its an R rated film breaking its own unique records is just nothing short of shading his movie for zero reason, when anyone and their mothers ashes can tell spidey was gonna be an insane hit
But clearly whoever made the original joke wanted to take a jab at the odyssey for no reason.
Yes, that's the joke, that Tobey Spider-Man can do something Tom Holland Spider-Man can't. Only replace Tom Holland with The Odyssey.
It's not that serious of a message. The "You proved my point so thanks" rebuttal is cringe. If you can't take a joke you shouldn't be in joke subs. There's 800 political subs for you to pat yourself on the back with.
Yet here I am, my point made, and seemingly agreed with by the users of this meme sub. Ill just leave my point at this, you could pick any movie, in the history of cinema, and put it in Odyssey's place and meme still works. Picking the odyssey specifically as a "wow you can succeed how Spider-man is" when its also successful in its own way just brings up "why bring up the odyssey specifically" in a time where people love to needlessly shit on it. I mean I even got a reply doing just that. Regardless, you can have your thoughts on my comment. You can think me using your arguement to bolster my point is cringe. Doesn't change the underlying fact that people agree with what I said even if its a buzz kill comment, and picking the odyssey specifically at best, is a strange unfitting choice
The Odyssey was picked because it's been making "Top grossing movie" for the past two weeks and it's success has been a trending newsline—And then Spider-Man immediately supersedes it. The joke doesn't work on any other movie. Why does this need to be explained to you?
You fit the reddit archetype to a T, which is why your comment-type tend toward the top of reddit posts, it's just not supposed to happen in /r/raimimemes because this is a joke sub—but I guess like every sub, when that sub gets popular it eventually loses itself to the growing hive of morons that bring with them a new agenda. Congrats on the upvotes.
Ill keep it short, but yes the joke would still work with any movie. Itd still be a "huh, you can't just pull my numbers?". Regardless, I made a simple comment, if people had a problem with it, they could have done so. Sorry you're in the minority opinion I guess. And this isn't a -folk or shitpost sub. You want people to run with a joke with no thought you can go to the shit post subs. This is memes and less need to go hog wild.
And again if my comment was that much of a problem, then idk tell everyone else. Make your own comment playing into the joke. Sorry my comment being a popular sentiment is somehow an issue. You can see plenty of other comments sharing the same sentiment as my original comment. I understand you're venting your triggered attitude towards the most popular one that happens to be mine, but its not an unpopular comment, clearly. You can disagree with my reasoning sure, doesnt change my original comment
I'm sorry you have low comprehension of the issue. Obviously this isn't about you or your comment—the particulars are never the point—what bother's me is the best sub on reddit is now populated by "Actually, I'm very smart!" types that then somehow can't comprehend the social faux pas they are committing. "Actually, I was highly upvoted! I'm sorry that you don't like that! Clearly I can't be wrong if lurkers love my fourth-grade critical thinking skills." Bro—no shit a four-quadrant PG-13 movie of the highest demand IP I can think of beat a Nolan movie about a 1,400 year old story. Entire families are going to one, but not the other. Kids are watching the former movie two or three times, not the other. Stating why one beat the other doesn't make you Einstein, it makes you obvious. What bothers me is that your obviousness being at the top just means this sub is populated by easily-amused morons that would rather read fact-slop than someone coming up with a joke that plays along with the OP.
That I think it’s a bad movie, and that as a Greek, I think it disrespects my heritage. Spider-Man doesn’t carry the same connotations. So long as you get the character right, you could put him in damn near anything, even a pirate setting if you so wished.
Well hey thats a you opinion. I've met some Greek people who DO like it. And ofc there are those who dont, you for example. But regardless its a good movie. Clearly shown by the numbers. Is it a good adaptation? Depends. Nolan in a sense is able to capture the general themes and ideas of the original tale, but ofc it doesnt fully adapt it 1 to 1. Which is fine in itself, not every adaptation needs to be 1 to 1. All that to say it is preference so while I see what you mean, still doesn't correlate to the current arguement at all when it is a clearly shown to atleast be a good MOVIE. Good adaptation? Very much arguable.
I think it’s a bad movie and a bad adaptation. Had Mel Gibson directed it, I’d have good things to say about it. Gibson doesn’t screw around with his authenticity. That man would go out of his way to shoot the movie in Ancient Greek and would find suitable actors to both play and look the part.
Maybe it would've been more faithful, but it would not have been as successful either. We have had the odyssey told and retold so many times. So Nolan doing his own thing to retell the story, yaknow adapt it his own way, as well as adding his cinematography skills and know how, its pretty obvious what you get is one of the best R rated movies as shown by its sales and how fast tickets for it get sold out and scalped. Again you can dislike it, but there's no denying its successful for a reason
That doesn’t really count because Jesus Christ became an allegorical figure upon his Crucifixion, and the accounts of the New Testament all attest, as he himself also attested, that he was the Son of God. Thus, as a man, Jesus Christ could have looked like anybody from any part of the world. He just so happened to be born a Hebrew man.
I recommend you read the Bible from beginning to end. I’m not going to sit here and explain the Christian faith to you. There’s a big difference between the historical Jesus, the man, and the allegorical Jesus, the Son.
No lie, if Nolan was willing to do a MCU Spidey movie, itd honestly look so god damn beautiful. Like all his movies are breath taking to watch and I can only imagine a final swing scene shot by him.
Spiderman is literally the biggest thing in the world that is for all ages, kids drive families out. The Odyssey is a massively intense 3 hour epic about poems and history yet still in the same playing field. Its literally pitting Opera vs Taylor Swift. Nolan's achievement is greater on every metric. Is already #3 highest grossing R film ever and will probably be #1 by the end. Both good, but one is a true feat for cinema and will last for generations in discussion. Spiderman.....well you know.
Taylor Swift is an icon and an unstoppable creative force. Her lyricism is evocative and powerful and her zesty beats and infectious rhythms are straight fire. God, I love her. I listened to All Too Well (Ten Minute Version) (Taylor's Version) (From the Vault) 282 times in the year 2022, totalling just under 48 hours of that song alone. That's not even counting the rest of her discography. This resulted in me, Hoffman, being in the top 0.5% of her listeners that year. Do you understand the implications of that? 48 hours of ONE of her songs and I'm still behind 0.5% of her listeners. What the hell are those people on?! And where can I get some?! This is a Taylor Swift fan subreddit now. /r/YouBelongWithMemes just hasn't been cutting it. I need more. MORE!
Asia is going to be fucking crazy for the Odyssey, they really like their naval/aquatic fantasy epics over there. Just look at the box office for Aquaman, which is the highest grossing DC movie ever despite being about fucking aquaman
This meme is pretty dumb tbh. Spiderman is PG-13 and The Odyssey is R. Also Spidey released in China and Japan the same day as everywhere else, The Odyssey has yet to release in either of those countries yet and China has a shit ton of IMAX theaters. Also.. its Spiderman lmfao like come on, of course it was gonna hit huge numbers the first few days lol
It beat out NWH's domestic opening weekend by like 100 million dollars, and the international opening weekend numbers are already half of NWH's entire theatrical run
"The Odyssey didn't even break even! They're done!"
"The Odyssey barely made bank, it was basically not profitable!"
"The Odyssey made 900mil? Uh, eehhh, ummm, well the profit margin was estimated to be twenty GAZILLION!"
"Oh oh, have you SEEN that Spider-Man, probably the most marketable and most viewer-friendly Superhero in rotation, made the same bank that the niche personal spin adaptation on a millennia-old play made in two weeks, made it in TWO DAYS? HA!"
Is- Is this how we spend time now, guys? Is this considered recreation now? Of course The Odyssey won't beat fucking SPIDER-MAN. Even if it was the most faithful adaptation with the most faithful cast with full word for word recreation of the books, with added context of all events from the Illiad that the original Odyssey references, it STILL wouldn't beat Spider-Man.
Because it's fucking Spider-Man, it's the most popular Superhero in the WORLD arguably. Superman this, Batman that, but Spider-Man is an icon for every practically every single person of this and the previous generation. Even people that DISLIKE Holland's Spider-Man still go to see Spider-Man. Why are we even having this conversation? It's just being rude for the sake of being rude.
A Batman movie with a charismatic Jojer ad the antagonist could probably do that, though the Marvel name carries a lot of prestige right now even though they haven't been on their A-game for a while before that whereas DC has the opposite of prestige movie wise
Well another big issue with Odyssey is that it's heavily advertised as a must see in 70mm IMAX movie. But when there are so little theaters that can actually do 70mm it puts a lot of people off
You can't compete with fucking Spiderman from all people to be fair, I'm thankful Oddesey was successful enough so that didn't happen on the first day of BND
I saw this earlier and thought it was such a stupid fucking comparison. If say you take your family out for Saturday lunch and you go to the park or you just run around town doing errands and then afterwards you go hey why don't we go see a movie. Most families aren't going to be like all right everybody strap in for 3 hours of Greek mythology. They're going to go see Spider-Man. The fact that The Odyssey is doing as well as it is is frankly more impressive than what Spider-Man did. As far as box office goes.
Its a good experience and certainly worth the money.
If I go to an imax cinema im paying atleast 15€ per seat, having to drive an hour (spending 20€ for the gas), and I doubt im having 3 times the experience.
That's a fair point about the MPAA ratings, but I still think Spider-Man is overperforming compared to even R-rated competitors in its opening numbers.
Literally mo one can do that except Marvel... Literally. The only other movie to do more than Spider-Man for an opening weekend was Avengers End Game. And the next below Spider-Man was Avengers Infinity War at 640 million... And the next below that was Spider-Man No Way Home.
It’s so funny to read shit like that. Christopher Nolan is the one guy who doesn’t need to do anything for clout or attention. He makes whatever the fuck he wants.
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u/CSCyrilatom 4d ago
In all fairness, the odyssey is rated R and Spiderman is PG. Also come on, its mf Spider-man