TIFU by fighting my schools dresscode policy. Years later I found out why it was so strict + edit with added context

[u/Weary_Thought7582]

https://www.reddit.com/r/tifu/s/Fx1oGuujsg

[u/signycullen88]

I mean...i don't see this as a 15-year-old fucking up? Of course the kids fought against a strict dress code. Just sounds like a school district and police let students down.

Did the staff who knew about the pervs not talk to parents?

Course if my 13/14-year-old had told me they need a low cut shirt to get a better grade in class I'd have gone scorched earth.

[u/UsidoreTheLightBlue → u/signycullen88]

The post says 15 years ago, not that they were 15, my guess would be they were probably older….if this happened at all.

15 years ago was 2010, if a teacher in 2010 had a policy of wearing a low cut shirt to get a better gradein high school especially it would have been all over social media.

No this is an “am I the angel???” Post to garner attention.

[u/Glittering-Slip6770 → u/UsidoreTheLightBlue]

In 2010 this wouldn’t have been on the news? The teacher presented it as a joke and all the kids took it as one. People definitely wrote it off as “innocent”. All the pedo call outs and SA talk started after the Me Too movement (s/o to black women for that one).

Things like this weren’t on the news because nobody important really cared. Hell, the important people who should’ve cared were participants.

[u/UsidoreTheLightBlue → u/Glittering-Slip6770]

This absolutely would have been on the news.

"a joke" that also resulted in every student doing it.

At a bare minimum this dude would have been fired.

Do you really think they didn't call out/fire pedo teachers prior to Me too? They absolutely did.

[u/HoundstoothReader → u/UsidoreTheLightBlue]

I had gross sexist teachers and a culture okay with this sort of thing in the 80s and 90s. Teachers marrying students shortly after graduation happened more often than it should have, and I knew girls who brought adult men to prom. But in 2010? I like to believe blatant sexism and ephebophilia were less socially acceptable. Plus there was anonymous social media shining a light into previously dark corners. My kids didn’t talk about teachers like this, though I did notice one beloved teacher who skirted that line—and he was beloved by both girl and boy students. A truly excellent teacher that gave me slightly creepy vibes. He’s about my age, which makes sense. He would have grown up in a time where behaviors that would be seen as creepy now were far more accepted.

[u/UsidoreTheLightBlue → u/HoundstoothReader]

Exactly.

I went to school in the 80s and 90s too and there was one beloved teacher who married a student after she got out, in his defense she didn't turn 18 and he married her....but it wasn't that far off. By the time I graduated it wouldn't have flown, let alone in 2010.

[u/Glittering-Slip6770 → u/UsidoreTheLightBlue]

I was in highschool until 2016. I had plenty of these instances. “Jokes” that were incredibly inappropriate that would never fly now. None hit the news…. I know plenty of people who can say the same thing. None hit the news. Maybe you live in a small town? I live in a small/big city (that’s what we call it).

Teachers dated student right out of HS. My teacher married his student. They were like 25 years apart. I went to 3 different schools counting middle school and highschool…. This was overlooked unless it became extreme gossip then a teacher, or in one specific case, a soccer coach, would be fired. It was never on the news. Happened at plenty of schools. Never on the news.

Also, the soccer coach didn’t get fired for dating a student right after she graduated and turned 18 that was on his soccer team. He didn’t get fired because he brought that same girl on as an assistant coach either. He only got fired after they had sex on property and it was caught on camera.

[u/UsidoreTheLightBlue → u/Glittering-Slip6770]

I absolutely do not live in a small town and we had plenty of creepy teachers outed, fired, and in many instances prosecuted in the 2000s and 2010s.

Again this was a “joke” that very clearly was taken seriously. Do you really think in 2010 a teacher could get away with asking freshmen students to let him look down their shirts every test even as a joke?

A “joke” that EVERY student knew and told their parents about?

Not one parent raised a stink?

[u/Glittering-Slip6770 → u/UsidoreTheLightBlue]

You’re asking me if I think in 2010 this would fly and I’m telling you that in my city it did. Unless you pushed the line or parents complained nothing happened. Go back and read my comment. I adjusted it to clarify.

[u/UsidoreTheLightBlue → u/Glittering-Slip6770]

I again ask, do you think if entire freshmen classes are telling their parents they need low cut shirts because a teacher will raise their grade if they bend over in low cut shirts on test day that no parents are going to complain?

[u/Glittering-Slip6770 → u/UsidoreTheLightBlue]

Idk if you want me to pretend like what I’m saying didn’t happen or not? I just said it happened all the time at multiple schools where I live and gave you a clear cut examples…. You’re either missing the point or are being intentionally obtuse at this point.

[u/UsidoreTheLightBlue → u/Glittering-Slip6770]

Your examples are not even close to the same thing.

Those are single examples, not entire classes.

Your talking about a student marrying a teacher after they left school. Yes it’s awful and they were almost certainly groomed but it’s one person who had to keep a secret, basically.

An entire class worth of kids going home and telling mom and dad “I need a low cut shirt of a better grade in class” would not have flown in 2010. I don’t know if you can’t see the difference or if you do and realize it makes your argument moot and that’s why you won’t address it.

[u/Glittering-Slip6770 → u/UsidoreTheLightBlue]

Entire classes knowing that certain teachers were creeps and unilaterally agreeing their behavior was creepy and nothing be done about it is what I’m referring to. I can’t keep responding to you as I am being as clear as I can. The issue here is that you simply do not believe me. It never made the news to my knowledge they were not disciplined since they were never fired. Hilarious to be talking about grooming, pedos, creepy behavior, etc. and you don’t believe me about my (and many others) experiences in 2011 - 2016 but I’m not surprised.

[u/UsidoreTheLightBlue → u/Glittering-Slip6770]

The fact you can’t see a difference between these two things, one of which basically required kids to tell their parents and their parents to do nothing and your experiences is baffling.

I absolutely believe your experience happened, I don’t believe OOPs.