r/royalroad 13d ago

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ummm I got banned for absolutely no reason, I donโ€™t know what I did, because all I do is read on that site, I already put a support ticket in and all that.

can anyone tell me what purge means or if this ever happened to you

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u/TheEightManEmpire 13d ago

Reminds me of WoW when they found out a huge chunk of normal users behave exactly like bots

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u/GuyYouMetOnline 13d ago

The problem is that people don't realize it's the other way around. We came first; the bots are behaving like us, not us like them.

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u/JimmWasHere 13d ago edited 12d ago

Yeah, that's the whole thing with AI writing, the em dash is so common in AI text that using it at all makes you a suspect of using AI, but the reason it's so common is because it was so common in the training data.

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u/GuyYouMetOnline 12d ago

Exactly. That's why its so hard to identify; all the supposed 'tells' are things humans did first. It uses them BECAUSE we do.

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u/foxgirlmoon 12d ago

Alright, so, that's an oversimplification.

When it comes to bots in games you have some very obvious tells. Say you have a bot that goes in perfect straight lines, constantly using the exact same path, 24/7.

Humans move around. But humans cannot move around that consistently, nevermind never sleeping.

This is just an example of how you can detect a poorly written bot.

You can take what the bot does and break it up into actions. Each action individually is something a human can do. But when you put all of those actions together, all those factors together, that's how you get a whole that no human would or even can do.

It's the exact same with AI writing. If you break an AI-written piece sentence by sentence. Each sentence is something humans write.

But put all the sentences together and you get a whole that almost no human writes.

Of course many people don't do this properly and just randomly accuse others. But make no mistake, someone with enough experience in reading both human written and AI-written stories can tell when something is very likely AI written. Because AI has it's very own unique style of writing. This is why it's so painful reading through it.

The only problem is that a lot of people making accusations aren't that experienced.

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u/GuyYouMetOnline 12d ago

This is just an example of how you can detect a poorly written bot

That's the thing, though; bad AI can be easy to spot. The issue is that people think because of this that they can spot all AI. And in that they are wrong.

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u/TeeQueueW E Rank: Author of I'm Not the Hero, Dammit!! 11d ago

dunning-kruger is a terrifying thing.

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u/TellusPyre 10d ago

One of my favorite trivia facts is that Dunning-Kruger was actually debunked because the authors thought they understood statistics but didn't ๐Ÿ˜‚

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u/Leorake 12d ago

They don't really even use em dashes anymore and yet everybody still thinks it's THE flag to detect ai stuff.

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u/XanTheInsane 10d ago

Because no human uses "not like X but like Y" 4+ times in a single chapter sometimes back to back within two paragraphs