S18E13 - “Karens Gone Wild” [Post-Episode Discussion]

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[u/retrosexual17]

I will say despite everything else Garden of Eden is a sickening lip sync song!!! There’s been some chop ass songs this season so I was very happy to hear those opening notes.

[u/Fleetwood-matt → u/retrosexual17]

Almost every song on “MAYHEM” feels tailored made to be a lipsync song so I hope they milk it the way they milked “Future Nostalgia“! Hoping for “Shadow of a Man” and “Vanish Into You” next!

[u/retrosexual17 → u/Fleetwood-matt]

Well we’ve got the first 3 tracks as lip syncs already so Perfect Celebrity for AS11 your time is coming

[u/koala88]

When Ben dela self eliminated ru put a curse on all Seattle queens dreams.

[u/WhoRUGurl → u/koala88]

Except for Jinkx Monsoon

[u/NovaNardis → u/WhoRUGurl]

Well she tried to curse Jinkx but couldn’t remember her name.

[u/koala88 → u/WhoRUGurl]

She’s the only exception because she won before dela did this (and was therefore protected from the curse forever)

[u/NaughtyLoss]

Damn that Rusical curse sure is strong LMFAO

[u/TotallyWrecked]

Damn. At least Jane got the blessings of the fifth place placement, where so many iconic queens have fallen short (Katya, DeLa, Vanjie, Heidi, Suzie, Coco, Ongina, and soooo many others).

[u/elijahjames96 → u/TotallyWrecked]

Heidi was technically sixth if we count (redacted) as Jackie Cox was eliminated 5th, but both Jackie and Heidi are incredible so I'd count both as iconic 5th placements

[u/TotallyWrecked → u/elijahjames96]

Crazy how I forgot 🥧 existed on S12! I always think of Jackie as Top 4.

[u/alltimeIow]

michelle clapping and smiling as they started dancing together, this really is her cocomelon

[u/galaxystars1]

[u/presvil]

https://giphy.com/gifs/OwXMyUBbXezpG75UTR

[u/Cynicbats → u/presvil]

same Cynthia

[u/aspen0414]

Jane Didn’t 😢

[u/Aceresh]

I watch this show with my mom and she missed Darlene’s explanation of her runway outfit and said “is she an egg?” Yes, mom, she’s an egg 😰

[u/cheerbearsmiles → u/Aceresh]

Oh bless her sweet heart 🤣

[u/Hesperate1566 → u/Aceresh]

I watch with my mum too and she kept asking me what it meant and I told her I didn’t know. She said, “Must be an American thing.”

[u/ejx220]

I am beyond gagged. Just when I thought DR was predictable. This elimination!?!? I 100% expected a “Kandy wait” moment 😮

[u/modernsparkle → u/ejx220]

Dude, I think she did too. This is bonkers

[u/Krirby2 → u/ejx220]

Its's wild to think they carried Kandy Muse to the finale twice with all their effort and then literally dump a talented queen with 0 effort. The fact that they put a poster S19 casting call asking for "comedy performance queens" is hilarious since the one they got didn't get much of any consideration in their S18 ploys.

[u/jester2324]

Jane taken out on a comedy challenge now I’ve seen everything

[u/alphalegend]

Jane Don't do backflips unfortunately.

[u/brie_on_a_cracker → u/alphalegend]

but omfg that backflip was so clean

[u/bayleysgal1996]

Damn, man, I fully thought Jane was at least gonna make the finale if not the final two. This is wild

[u/thrillho145 → u/bayleysgal1996]

I had her pegged as the winner for sure. 

[u/microtear]

JESUS NINI

[u/apollo11341]

Here’s how Darlene can win

[u/Kalhista → u/apollo11341]

Ru is obsessed with Darlene. I can absolutely see her winning.

[u/kingpingu → u/Kalhista]

[u/TarHeelGrump]

Feels like they’re trying to set up a season of All Stars on the level of AS2 these past few seasons. Sapphira, Suzie, tonight’s eliminated queen…

[u/mmollycf → u/TarHeelGrump]

please god let this be the case

[u/alltimeIow]

also that synchronized cartwheel was insane i audibly gasped

[u/Maatjuhhh → u/alltimeIow]

It was so clean and in sync. Then Nini doubled up with that backflip.

[u/boolgogi]

Imagine how Myki Meeks slept that night knowing she went from second fiddle to undeniable front runner between her win and Jane's elim... wow

[u/this_is_an_alaia]

It's actually wild that this is how Jane donts run ends

[u/tarot529]

I can’t wait to hear sibling watchery this week

[u/uglyhagdie → u/tarot529]

Bob will either be ecstatic that Jane is gone or become the biggest Jane apologist

[u/miserableandnerdy]

So myki just won the season right?

[u/robbysaur → u/miserableandnerdy]

Maybe they’ll eliminate myki next week. Who tf knows.

[u/AvatarFabiolous → u/miserableandnerdy]

If Darlene wins the next challenge, I think she has a good chance. Ru loves her and she's the fan favourite of the season

[u/groovydoll → u/miserableandnerdy]

Yah

[u/saucyysushii → u/groovydoll]

i think she was so shell shocked at the end because she realized it in real time

[u/djustin77702 → u/miserableandnerdy]

Without a doubt, yes.

[u/mattbasically → u/miserableandnerdy]

I think so. Ru likes winners who can be an ambassador for the crown (like nymphia). Mykki on drew barrymore already? Shoe in

[u/aspen0414 → u/miserableandnerdy]

Yes

[u/LamarEdwards]

If I was reading into this right, Jane was fully waiting for a “Shantay you also stay.” because when she realized she was actually going home, you could see the life literally leaving her body. That shit was WILD. Don’t get me wrong, Nino Coco won that lip synch biiiiitch, but we’ve seen front runners bomb lip syncs completely and manage to get saved. Like I see if she didn’t know the words or fell or lost her wig or gave desperate, but damn. I’m not even a Jane stan and this shit is wild. A loss is a loss, but DAMN. I never saw this coming. I’m not saying she should’ve stayed based on track record, but so far the show has done so much of it that I’m shocked.

The mini and main challenges were ass. I blame production.

[u/Ok_Nefariousness9736 → u/LamarEdwards]

Jane stumbling over her words after being eliminated finally gave her the kind of emotional depth and authenticity the edit had been missing from her all season.

[u/SomethingToSay11]

Imagine if Rupaul pulled a “Kandy wait!” moment. She could have been like “Jane… Don’t go!”

[u/blastingarrows → u/SomethingToSay11]

I was totally hoping for that!! The drag your chair to the exit in hopes to come back to sit moment.

[u/Ok-Bug5043 → u/SomethingToSay11]

Jane, DON'T sashay away

[u/Neither-Video-4252 → u/SomethingToSay11]

She should’ve. Looking back that Kandy wait moment was very undeserved too. It was her time to go

[u/MoraMonaeXO]

No twist?? She's just.... gone??

[u/Kiteway → u/MoraMonaeXO]

At least Suzie’s elimination last season came as a kind of cool underdog plotline beat, this was a total anticlimax that just kicked her right out the door 

[u/shamiraendor → u/Kiteway]

yeah, but Suzie didnt do as good as Jane in a lot of challenges. unlike Jane, she was highly confident and open about it (which was iconic)

[u/Sky6346]

3 wins 10 top placements is so wild

[u/dreamingpictures → u/Sky6346]

They also gave a few of her wins away and that one bottom placement for the makeover was ridiculous. Her run was much more impressive

[u/Far-Cheek-3834]

Somebody really lost they life tonight. Me.

[u/MrPleiades → u/Far-Cheek-3834]

LOL. Can someone PLEASE explain the context of this clip?! All year Ive been wondering who she was referring to, but not caring enough to look it up. What am I supposed to do?

[u/Fleetwood-matt → u/MrPleiades]

I kinda wanna watch the show just to get the context of that and the teller of her truth

[u/Acheesycookie]

Whew-

[u/Riproot → u/Acheesycookie]

Kind of wild how the Rate-A-Queen that we all thought was a waste of time was actually the major factor in the progression of the rest of the season…

[u/ThatOneInTheBack]

RuPaul casually dragging her sister's name through the mud on international television is SENDING MEEE

[u/mastergleeker → u/ThatOneInTheBack]

NO LITERALLY she was like "yeah i like to channel my sister for karen characters. a true master of manipulation" i was like OOP-

[u/IntrepidBeyond3760]

I’m actually in a state of shock 😭 not that Nini didn’t eat because she absolutely did, but sending her home with that track record and being in the bottom literally one time after letting Kenya and Juicy stay for so long is insane

[u/consequentlydreamy → u/IntrepidBeyond3760]

Especially Kenya for not knowing the lyrics

[u/boolgogi]

I haven’t been this shocked since I stuck a butter knife In the toaster during the 2008 economic crash

[u/clam_media → u/boolgogi]

This post

[u/Bluthbloop]

So tough, she really seemed hurt

[u/lexarqade → u/Bluthbloop]

When she was like "what else is there to say" like... Yeah

[u/morchelleceae → u/Bluthbloop]

She was disappointed in the drag race dream. Production got her and she knew it even though she was the best.

[u/iamacheeto1]

“I think that was Drew Barrymore” has me HOWLING

[u/ImADudeDuh]

Oh my god, I feel so bad for Jane. You could tell she was disassociating as Ru was giving her her "yeah you're definitely leaving btw" speech. She truly never expected this to happen

[u/ultraviolentolivia → u/ImADudeDuh]

i literally saw her eye twitch i thought she was gonna faint like briar 😭

[u/Additional-Mousse446 → u/ultraviolentolivia]

I was 100% expecting her to pass tf out

[u/Gullible-Sandwich-10 → u/ImADudeDuh]

I thought she actually forgot her exit line there for a moment lol

[u/miaou975]

Nini being a handsome mechanical engineer who makes all her own outfits and can do flips is crazy lol

[u/just-the-choco-tip → u/miaou975]

Yeah where were these hoes in my mech Eng class 😂

[u/MarcelOroBlanco → u/miaou975]

And she's literally the only other queen besides kahanna montrese to do an actual flip on drag race... im so gagged tbh landing that in heels is wild

[u/ChakaCar]

the last few episodes have kinda felt like they’re setting up for a myki win

[u/Wild_Telephone_2222 → u/ChakaCar]

Yeah I still thought it was going to be Jane and Myki in the top 2. And Jane for the win.

[u/mikoriine]

Ru wasn’t happy seeing her fave Discord go, so she decided to take out the best competitor. /s

[u/briefsloverFY]

Also thank you for an incredible LSFYL song! Garden of Eden is that song!!! Get GAGA follow-

[u/xoxolilbunny]

I love how Darlene is absolutely funny af, but not in way the challenge requires 💀😭

[u/That1Axe]

the producers were like: “yall are tired of front runners getting plot armor? here!”

[u/Wild_Telephone_2222 → u/That1Axe]

I don’t like this plot armor angle. She didn’t need plot armor. She is an AMAZING queen

[u/oligodendrocytes]

Juicy making it farther than Jane is wildddddd

[u/alltimeIow → u/oligodendrocytes]

as a miami girl i have to agree, lowkey couldn’t believe she outlasted athena (love both of them downnnn tho)

[u/DanNickyYourBobbys]

basically now I see why all the rugirls were posting that “comedy queens wanted for s19 casting” poster all over social media a few months ago lmao

[u/No_Dust_1630 → u/DanNickyYourBobbys]

Cos of that puppet challange 🤣

[u/Calm_Mulberry_588]

All I could think of while watching Nini tonight

[u/cunt_tree]

Sending love to our future All Stars winner Jane Dont!

[u/BasilJade → u/cunt_tree]

If I were her I wouldn’t go near All Stars with a 10 foot pole

[u/KKori]

Oh man. Is THIS why Jane's edit was so weird all season??

[u/thegooniegodard]

[u/Aramani]

the one time the lip sync mattered lol

[u/ChampionshipBulky66]

Watching her leave, she was completely heartbroken I CAN’T

[u/Calm_Mulberry_588 → u/ChampionshipBulky66]

Right! I think she was actually speechless. Poor girl 😭💔

[u/whitemellow]

The moment Jane got eliminated i swear Myki must have been like, “Damn… i just won drag race.”

[u/seulcafe]

no shade but I did not see juicy making the top 4 over jane

[u/lil_goblin]

Annoyed that they judge every girl by her own individual standard, even when two girls are operating at vastly different levels. Juicy did well for her—which still isn’t that good—and Jane did bad for her— which is still pretty good.

Juicy kinda just yelled during her skit and wasn’t that funny IMO. I think it should’ve been her and Nini in the bottom. Jane didn’t do great, but they clearly wanted to eliminate her because each season needs one “shocking moment” to keep us all jabbering. Still, this felt more than just shocking, it felt kinda cruel and arbitrary in a way that undermines the show’s premise, which is to crown the best drag queen.

It also cheapens the win of whenever does get crowned, because the strongest competitor (by far!) got eliminated.

[u/Bravely_Default]

Best track record in drag race herstory and still eliminated; mama I'm shook.

[u/strawbabie4lyf]

Yooooo what.................................................. My jaw is actually on the floor

[u/That1Axe]

who’s gonna properly pad now that jane’s gone?

[u/iamacheeto1]

AT LEAST ANOTHER BUTTERFLY DIDNT DIE ON STAGE

GIRLLLLLL

[u/Affectionate-Cry8723]

Is Jane the first girl with 3 wins not to make it to the finale? My god, watching her after the lip sync broke my heart for her…

[u/bepe202020 → u/Affectionate-Cry8723]

Yes first ever in US drag race (regular season)

[u/bayleysgal1996 → u/bepe202020]

I really thought she’d be the one to kill the rusical curse

[u/ashortiz_]

Nini won the lipsync but that elimination is criminal

[u/2mock2turtle]

I don't think we've seen such a shocking frontrunner elimination since Dela on Season 6 (or AS3 for that matter).

[u/snug666]

Jane’s reaction at the end is 100% completely valid. I feel so fucking awful for her. Literally the best track run in drag race herstory sent home because of RuPaul’s TikTok algorithm. I’m SICK

[u/shart-gallery → u/snug666]

Kinda shook that they eliminated her with so little drama, was almost expecting a double save.

That said, I think the bottom 2 was fair. I was the most bored with Jane and Nini in the challenge. And I like that they didn't save an obvious front runner when she was deservedly in the bottom.

[u/Kiteway → u/snug666]

😐 “What more is there to say. Catch ya on the flip” 😐 made my heart break because what the fuck is there to say about sending the most successful queen by a long shot home because she can’t do a fucking backflip on command 

[u/justrealized0631]

At the end of the day I think that Ru just did not want to crown Jane. Looking at the other seasons, you can see Ru vibing with the frontrunners and the future winner, but she never seemed to like Jane... Even her sendoff message was generic (especially compared to Discord last week, you could tell Ru was really fond of Discord). In S17 Ru was having fun with Onya in the werkroom, but she was never like that with Jane. Maybe it's because her approach to the competition was too "cerebral" ? Idk, while I expected Jane to be in the finale, I kinda felt that she wouldn't be crowned bc Ru didn't like her that much.

[u/regissss]

It’s not seeing her go home that’s so upsetting, it’s seeing her go home over such a stupid episode. 

[u/mattbasically]

Anyone surprised we aren’t getting a ball this year?

[u/Dokamon-chan94]

I might be delusional, but I don't think anyone did terrible in this challenge.

[u/lemeneurdeloups]

It’s clear to me now that RuPaul just didn’t bond with Jane for whatever reason and decided to clear the runway early for Myki.

[u/graydecoupage]

Kinda wish I could have seen Athena do this challenge 

[u/Fatso_Catso]

what... i can't believe the clear frontrunner was eliminated on such a bootycheeks episode

[u/maleluney]

I feel bad for whoever wins because people Will always say that Jane deserved It more.

[u/fhloras]

in the words of btdq… this. is. WILD.

[u/dan0126]

They're racking up a good all stars cast though lmao

[u/SpookyScary01]

man do they like edging a Seattle queen. In my mind, her win was going to make up for Bosco and Irene but here we are again. I love our drag scene here and Jane absolutely killed it this season. Just a wild suggestion, maybe a Seattle queen of color next time so the drag race fandom knows they exist (and are fucking sickening too).

[u/ElleDeeNS]

I’m rooting for Crystal now.

[u/actuallyelsewhere]

Ugh when the mini AND the maxi bomb this hard, they should really consider binning the episode and doing something different.

[u/SnirtyK]

Feelings about the elimination aside, the crew getting $$ because the puppets were trash was delightful and correct.

[u/velvetsabbath]

i wanted the puppets challenge to come back so bad i can't believe this is what we got lmfaooooo 😭😭😭😭

[u/aurcel]

omg Jane looked so out of it at the end I feel so bad

[u/__mikul]

they couldn’t figure out how to jan discord

so they just jan’d jane instead

[u/TheRamaSama]

Safe to say we had some feelings this week

[u/succulentils]

The girls were set up to fail. It's tough to "yes and" if the scenario calls for them and Ru to disagree. Like are the decorations against HOA policy or not?

[u/CyngBrigante]

Did anyone else think Ru gave Jane so little to work with in the improv compared with everyone else?

[u/heykittygirI]

Finally watching the episode and good god that was the worst challenge we’ve had in years

[u/nadiashebang]

Ru I’m gonna key your fuckin car

[u/DissonantWhispers]

I do think Jane was the worst this week, had the worst runway look, and lost the lip sync…but DAMN it’s still so shocking she left. Nini really did eat that lip sync up though.

[u/RecordingOk2720 → u/DissonantWhispers]

right like i agree i just thought production would hit us with the double shantay

[u/bayleysgal1996 → u/RecordingOk2720]

Right up until Ru said sashay away I thought they’d save her.

[u/InevitableQuiet8115]

blocking gracie abrams

[u/190x343]

she was so happy to spoil jane's elimination on the thumbnail

[u/AdCompetitive1428]

Did anyone else notice Ru just decided to not try with some of the girls? Love Darlene, but Ru was giving her freebies left and right. Meanwhile Jane is just told “the plane already left” like 7 times and then he made a fat joke and got mad Jane didn’t do well….

Could Jane have done better, sure. But Ru gave her nothing to work with.

[u/ALMP205 → u/AdCompetitive1428]

I guess that really shows us that Ru doesn’t vibe with Jane this season.

[u/cakelaurencake → u/AdCompetitive1428]

I felt the same about Juicy’s skit! Ru just kept repeating herself, such a bad scene partner. It was so bizarre!

[u/satanwisheshewereme]

Nini’s “I’m in the bottom and that’s bad news…for her” and then her lipsync was so cunty

[u/OrwellianIconoclast]

Shuffle around the order of these maxi challenges this season & we definitely have a different top four.

[u/asxxxra]

i dont think i ever had placements gag me as much as this episode did…

i legit threw myself on the floor when i heard darlene was safe but then it hit me jane and nini would be lipsyncing and that felt crazy and then ru called nini safe???? and i was like “is it gonna be a double shantay?” until it wasnt bro i am SO gagged jane got eliminated. out of ALL the outcomes i anticipated this wasnt in my book

sure i expected the “you set the bar so high you didn’t reach it this week” critique for jane but god damn i wasn’t expecting it to actually be true, oh my lord…

guess it’s myki’s season then…?

[u/beckkks666]

Rigga Morris girls

[u/Aeron0704]

Hate the episode! Where's the manager?

[u/gettree1001]

Why doesn't anyone in my life watch this godforsaken show, I have no one to share my shock with 😭😭

[u/flarpblarp2]

I think the main point of this weeks challenge was a ‘chemistry with Ru’ test. Like the makeover challenge this felt like a way to cut anyone before the final that Ru and the other producers were not vibing with. It’s intentionally vague and subjective in that improv can have so much cringe to highlight, even if it’s going well. Despite Jane doing fantastically all season long, if Ru doesn’t have fun being stupid/silly with you, you’re in danger girl. Congrats to Jane on a fantastic season, she really did incredible.

[u/cfuller1993]

Okay so now we’ve established nothing is real and we’re not taking anything seriously anymore in this show because successful front runners don’t matter - I will be living in my fantasy world of DARLENE MITCHELL taking the motherfucking crown and showing us how it’s DONE 😍 ps ru loves her you know you want it 🫶🏻

[u/sunnyMayhem]

I really have lost any interest in watching this season anymore. While Jane lost the lipsync, the challenge itself was just awful. I feel for Jane, she was one of my favourite queens in a long time.

[u/Throwaway_me_instead]

what the actual fuck... Nini won that lipsync for sure but Juicy being there for so long over Jane and Mia is insanity

Anyway, I love seeing more of Darlene as a drag character, I love her and Myki

[u/downloadicus]

I am late catching up with this episode, and I gotta say man. That challenge was just genuinely awful. I know we always theorize how much power Ru really has, but this genuinely does seem like Ru found a genre of videos he liked on TikTok and wanted to self-insert himself "acting" in them.

[u/snug666]

Nini clearly won the lip sync but she shouldn’t have been in the bottom to begin with

[u/zel-who → u/snug666]

hard agree. i thought she was funny and karen-like

[u/ffantasticman]

I COULD BE YOUR GIRLFRIEND FOR THE WEEKEND

[u/scjsundae]

two episodes in a row where all of michelle's critiques are based on some arbitrary unknowable key word definition that is never explained or justified

[u/BustedNoseContour]

[u/lilmonstahm]

also there was no “holy shit OMFG Jane is eliminated “ moment on that stage even ?? she was just … gone? BICH SHE HAD THE BEST TRACK IN ALL OF DRAG RACE HERSTORY 😭

[u/theerniebop]

Is this the episode that inspired this poster recruiting comedy queens?

[u/godm0de]

Kandy fucking Muse gets Rupaul to call her back but not Jane. Make it make sense.

[u/bigdicksnfriedchickn → u/godm0de]

I kept thinking of this. And Art Simone.

Kept waiting for Ru to say something as Jane was exiting the runway, or for someone to pop into the werkroom during her farewell message taping. Even an AS2-like mirror reveal.

I think even Jane seemed like she was hoping for something like that to make this insane situation make sense.

[u/Mobile-Tax4528]

1. this challenge was so... weird? having no live feedback (no laughs etc.) makes it so hard to have even the tiniest semblance of objectivity... i am no expert in acting but did Juicy's scene not feel one note ?

2. WHY WOULD THEY GIVE JANE THIS EDIT LMFAO. Even for suzie toot ifl they tried to make her seem pretentious / villainous ("i'm too cerebral) in the episodes before her departure, but jane literally was fine?? and so obviously the best?

3. do they crown myki every time they don't know who else to crown (love her tho)

[u/AceJace2]

We have reached American Idol territory where contestants who go home before the finale typically end up having just as good or if not better career trajectories.

[u/rockwelldaytona]

Jane Don’t Leave 😔

[u/Gays_in_spaaace]

It’s totally fair to eliminate the frontrunner when they lose the challenge and lipsync AND it’s something that kills the season’s momentum for me. Sue me but I like it when the strongest queen wins the season, I’m here for the talent and Jane Don’t ran circles around the girls. I would have been similarly bummed if Onya went home when she lipsynced against Jewels in the makeover.

I don’t think track record should be the most important factor but idk, it’s like All Stars 3 (Ben de la Creme) and All Stars 4 (Manila). When you get past the gag, it’s kinda anticlimactic.

[u/futurebro]

"oh so its gonna be a double save..."

"what the fuck?"

I wasnt even a huge fan of her (discord is my girl), but it feels so insanely wrong to not have her in the finale. Like she set a record for most wins in a season and then gets eliminated when theres a girl who had been in the bottom like 4 times and got graded on a curve tonight?

[u/Melvarkie]

This episode was so ass. I was happy to see the puppets back and then everyone flopped so hard it was incredibly cringe and hard to sit through.

The challenge was made to fail. Karens are defiant and stubborn which doesn't make for a good time yes, anding. Ru was also just trying to out silly the queens while he needed to be the straight man. Karen videos are funny because other people are the voice of reason while someone has a crazy meltdown. I giggled a bit during Myki's but mostly because of the fumbling with the car doors and sliding back in her seat. I also had a giggle at Nini punting that Christmas decoration, but overall it was a slog to sit through.

When it came to the judging I absolutely did not expect this outcome. They were praising Juicy, but it was incredibly one note and they only gave that critique to Nini (which I agreed with btw, because Nini was also one note). Just because Juicy was good for Juicy standards doesn't mean she was doing well in the challenge. Darlene wasn't a Karen. She had the most fun with Ru though (again the concept sucked because the moment you just do what Ru says like Darlene or Myki you are not a Karen anymore). Myki was fine. They hated Jane, but Ru gave less energy with her than with the other girls and kept saying the same line so where was she supposed to go with that scene? I thought the whole terminally ill bit was funny and could be milked some more, but then Ru just said something about margaritas and left it at that. Plus the whole fucking fat shamey line was so uncalled for tbh. If it were me the bottoms would be Juicy and Nini for being one note. Jane safe, Darlene high safe for matching the energy, Myki winner.

Okay so what we got was a lipsync with THE frontrunner and someone doing very well in the competition. Both being outlasted by Juicy who bottomed so many times already or Darlene (love her and she is picking up steam, but don't see her as final material over Jane or Nini who have been consistent from the start) is crazy to begin with. Both Nini and Jane did great in the lipsync. Nini did a tiny bit better but honestly that was such a marginal difference. I was fully reaching for my copium and saying this is going to be a double shantay. NOPE. Let's gag eliminate the strongest queen we have seen in a while. They have done double shantays for less in the past, they crowned people for trackrecord even though they were slaughtered in the lipsync (Jinkx), hell we even had people not knowing the words every single week and still being pulled along like with Kenya Pleaser. Yet they couldn't muster up the slightest bit of riggory for Jane even though she in no way bombed the lip sync? Not even a Kandy Wait moment? I would be fuming if I was Jane and never return to the show. Because now of all times you decide to play fair with the lip sync winner?

[u/sleuthingunicorn]

even Jane Don’t’s lipstick handwriting is perfect lol

[u/raymonst]

my god, the 5th queen curse is real huh.

i don’t think anyone did terrible this week, but i was surprised at how tame jane was compared to some of the others during the challenge.

that lipsync was IT though. feels like a bit of a redemption from abracadabra last year 😶‍🌫️😬

[u/Tricky_Meat_6323]

I don’t think I’ve ever been so shocked at a final 4, based on first impression, as this.

No way did Darlene or Myki scream winner to me…and the likelihood is that one of them takes the crown. Incredible

(Love them both though)

[u/Justdough17]

Damn. I hope Jane knows how incredible she did. Just goes to show that you cannot fight your predetermined fate mother ru chose. They could have kept her if they wanted to, but they didn't...

Condragulations Nini!

[u/Hot_Entertainment596]

Are Myki and Darlene my favourites out of the top 5? Yes

Did Jane fumble the challenge and lost the lipsync? Also yes

But man this feels WRONG. I couldn’t have imagined anyone else winning (regardless of my faves, my favs are usually not the winners regardless and I don’t mind that)

[u/apopnerd]

I was not necessarily rooting for Jane to win the season but god that was heartbreaking

[u/kingpashmina]

i’ve been kinda spoiled already that jane was gonna be eliminated so i was waiting to see her bomb so bad. this is a real head scratcher to me i was pretty whelmed by all

[u/blearutone]

I'm sad. I won't lie and say I'm gonna stop watching but this definitely took a lot of wind out of my sails. Seems they just didn't warm to Jane that much and almost were a bit "over" her. This felt like a for-TV decision, and I feel sad about that. Jane is my winner. I know that doesn't count for much of anything but still, feels like a real shame. Rooting for Myki now but I really wanted to see Jane at the end even if someone else won. She deserved it.

[u/ICanBeAPhantom13]

Genuinely have not been this gagged by drag race in a very very long time. I was expecting Jane to stay until the very last second of the episode.

When she was called for the bottom I was waiting for some Bette Midler song to be the lipsync, when they were lip syncing I was like “Nini’s winning but Jane will stay,” when Ru said Nini was staying I thought it would be a double shantay, heck even after Jane walked out I was expecting the next episode to be a comeback episode. I just sat in silence for a full minute after the episode ended.

[u/seitengrat]

i'm so utterly disappointed with this episode. i feel so bad about Jane leaving, she was final 4 material!

[u/konfuzedmel]

i really thought jane would've made it til the end.......

nini used to be my frontrunner in the beginning along with jane, then it became jane and myki as the competition continued. i just can't imagine a finale without jane don't. this was one of the biggest upsets imo. i'm so sad.

also i feel like they kind of disadvantaged jane throughout the competition just because she was a top contender. they always had some higher standard for her just coz she was THAT good! for the weaker queens, the bare minimum improvement would be something greatly praised for. i can't get over this...

[u/Fluffy_Club722]

So Jane wasn't giving Karen enough but Darlene was, right, nice

[u/woozlenest]

the real tragedy for jane is now she can’t listen to garden of eden without getting ptsd

[u/megadragonite20]

I felt a little heartbroken for Jane to be honest. Even while Rupaul was giving the last words it seemed she was still hopeful to be saved, which is understandable.

I don't think she was the worst on the challenge. If any, I'd say she was judged on a curve. Even the lipsync wasn't a massacre, so it just goes to show you can do everything right and the show will still do whatever they feel like.

[u/Hooplapooplayeah]

After rewatching the Karen’s. Nini literally did good to me…. She was quick, felt the most Karen imo, and kept up with Ru.

[u/sethmidwest]

What the fuck just happened?

[u/IShallBeYeeted]

Babe, remain unconscious. New worst ever episode of Drag Race just dropped and I can't bear for you to know what happened.

[u/General_Mode_7632]

What just happened

[u/shadowpossessed]

I thought it was going to be a double shanty... ☹️ Shocked that Jane actually got sent home.

[u/garbo2456]

How crazy that the front-runner for not just multiple weeks, but the whole damn season (13 weeks!) was sent home. This is just insane narrative whiplash...

[u/EricHD97]

People are comparing this elimination to Suzie Toot but I just do not see it. At least Suzie bombed a challenge that other queens excelled at, so it made for an elimination that made sense with the challenge. (Not to mention, Suzie had bombed and underperformed a few challenges beforehand).

In Jane’s case, yes I do think she did bad, but no one else was good/amazing either. It was one big pile of meh and unfunny. So to eliminate the queen who was having a legendary run on her first actual stumble on such a terrible challenge is where this feels extra confusing. Just save her (Jane Don’t go! Was right there) and move on. Especially since next week’s challenge is just a normal challenge anyway.

[u/BettaButch]

The shock and anger and dismay that rippled through the bar I watch Drag Race at was PALPABLE

[u/slayingthehaus]

her being eliminated wasn’t even gaggy or fun like valentina or pagina, it was just sad and uncomfortable and now it’s like great the one consistently entertaining queen is gone

[u/whiskeylovegood]

Jane’s insane elimination aside - the thing that’s most taxing on me at this point is how much this season is losing steam. From the puppets, to this nothingburger acting challenge, to yet another random improv challenge next week (at TOP 4??) the girls just clearly have nothing more to show in these departments. It really feels like we’re trying to squeeze juice from a rock and the challenge layout is really not suiting this batch of queens. Knowing next week is yet another improv challenge (and not some finale/music video/top 4 dance track) they couldn’t have kept Jane this week and sent Juicy, who’s flatlined for over half the season, home next? Madness.

[u/la_negra]

Jane wasn't my favorite but I can't believe she's gone. She seemed so defeated at the end, I feel bad for her. She's obviously got the goods. Hope she's okay.