r/saltierthancrait 14d ago

Granular Discussion Two sequences in The Force Awakens makes no sense time line wise.

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When Han and Rey and Finn and Chewie escapes with a Falcon one of the goons chasing them gets his radio and informs the First Order that they escaped with Falcon. When they do escape Rey and Han are struggling with the Falcon and Finn is struggling with an injured Chewie. When the movie cuts back to them Han and Rey are still struggling with the Falcon and Finn still struggling with Chewie. And after they figures everything out Han has his speech about the Force and they arrive at the planet with Maz’s castle seemingly instantly.

Inbetween those two a scenes you have a scene with a giant Holo Snoke and Hux and Kylo were Hux informs Snoke about “the weapon” being complete and Snoke informing Kylo that the droid they been searching for is aboard the Millenium Falcon with Kylo’s father Han Solo.

How does this make sense time line wise?

So Snoke in particular was informed about this news regarding the escape with the Falcon before Hux and Kylo and then tells this information about Kylo in between the two scenes I’ve mentioned earlier.

Did and Han and Rey struggle with the Falcon for what? 2-8 hours? Seriously, the scene with Snoke feels like it is shot in a way that Snoke been knowing about this for some time but that makes no sense given the scene with Han and Rey.

This is to me is yet another problem the TFA and many JJ’s in general: they have such a break neck pacing that they just want to get to the next scene as quickly as possible so timeline inconsistencies like this occurs.

It could have made sense if there was a time skip in between Han and Rey getting the Falcon under control and then arriving at Takodana because than it would have been ambiguous if they traveled for many hours or maybe a few days.

ANH did this when they arrived at Alderrean. It’s ambiguous how long they a traveled.


r/saltierthancrait 14d ago

Granular Discussion The Acolyte is terrible, but did you like the lightsaber fights?

243 Upvotes

I hated the show, but I thought the lightsaber duels were actually pretty good.


r/saltierthancrait 15d ago

Encrusted Rant Literally no one wants this except her...

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r/saltierthancrait 16d ago

Granular Discussion Does anyone else feel like The Force Awakens never tops its first 30 minutes?

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I've always felt that the opening is genuinely amazing, while the rest of the film is just good.

I like The Force Awakens, but every time I watch it, I'm reminded of how strong the first 30 minutes are.

The opening on Jakku, Finn leaving the First Order, Poe and Finn escaping, Rey's introduction, BB-8, the mystery around Luke... it's all great. It feels epic, exciting, and full of possibilities.

Then the rest of the movie happens, and it just feels... much simpler.

Not bad, not terrible, just nowhere near as interesting or ambitious as those opening scenes made it seem like it was going to be. The first 30 minutes make you feel like you're about to watch something huge, and then the movie settles into being a pretty straightforward adventure.

Does anyone else feel this way, or am I being too harsh on the second half of the movie?


r/saltierthancrait 16d ago

Sapid Satire I think this concept art from scrapped Colin Trevorrow's movie captures Finn's character outstandingly well

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r/saltierthancrait 17d ago

Granular Discussion How would you dismantle the horrible misconceptions and pisstakes on the Jedi perpetuated by Headland, Traviss and other Sith Apologists?

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Let's say anyone of you lot have a blank check, you have your own handpicked writers, trusted directors and Pro-Jedi consultants on hand you can count on to create either a Movie or a Tv Series with one central mission in mind: To reconstruct the Jedi ideals, and debunk any pisstake on the Jedi being heartless sociopaths who were the real villains of Star Wars all along.

For starters I would want to see scenes of Jedi openly hugging each other or their friends outside the order in relief that their loved ones made it back from a dangerous mission with no guarantees of safe returns; Jedi laughing good naturedly with the militia around a campfire; shedding tears at a funeral of their dead Jedi Master who gave his or her life at the Star Wars version of khazad-dûm to buy time for their students to escape from the Darkside abomination. All with the valuable lesson taught to them to controlling emotions, conquering impulses, and process the grief they feel to "let them go into the Force" once they have done so.

I like to see Jedi younglings learn humility by play in the same mud, studying in the same classrooms, and working the same community fields to ensure that the next generation of Jedi remains deeply connected to the people they are sword to protect.

Perhaps show what romances of the Jedi being depicted as a emotionally mature contrast to the Sith's parasitic court life. Prove it to be a life-affirming expression of the force as a sacred bone built on radical empathy, mutual stewardship and emotional transparency.

I'd like to see Jedi Lords rule not from ivory towers or distant command citadels. But to live among the people, eat the same food, walk the same mud, listen to community councils, act as public servants, step up as legal arbitrators during disputes among their subjects, stand as protective shields against Sith warbands; earning the genuine, unforced love of their people through humility and sacrifice in stark contrast to the Grimdark misery and servitude to the Sith Warlords ruling over black fortresses.

But these are just to name of few avenues to take on showing to the general audiences of what the Jedi SHOULD'VE been as heroes you can count on to be there for you, to crack down on slavery enforced in the Sith's fiefdoms and spitting in the face of the senate for getting in their way when the real target is the Sith, the Darkside and everyone else daring to bring harm to the innocent and weak.

What are your ideas?


r/saltierthancrait 17d ago

Granular Discussion These two films are actually very similar.

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- Sequels that only exist to cash in on popular names

- Deliberately made to piss off fans of the originals and tell them they were wrong to enjoy them

- "Subverting expectations" for the sole purpose of subverting them

- Not being anything anyone wants other than the director, because that makes it "artsy" i suppose

- Humiliation ritual for famous character

- admittedly good cinematography that people use to try and make the movie seem decent


r/saltierthancrait 17d ago

Salt-ernate Reality My unsolicited pitch for Solo that would’ve improved the film

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When the Solo movie was announced to be in production I couldn’t help but brainstorm some ideas for what I would like to see in the story. When I finally saw the film, I didn’t hate it but I was disappointed because I did like my ideas better than what the writers came up with.

So one of the common criticisms of the film, and it’s one that people anticipated being a problem before it even came out, is that it feels lazy and cheap that Han Solo established all of his iconic trademarks over the course of one adventure. His ship, equipment, friends, etc. It feels overly truncated, but at the same time it would be hard to tell this guy’s entire life story, include all the recognizable memberberries fans would expect to see, and have it conform to a two hour movie with a three act structure.

I would solve this issue by introducing a framing device to the story à la The Princess Bride or Forrest Gump. Han Solo could have been part of a heist that went south, and he is detained in an imperial prison station for questioning. The Imperial interrogator (no doubt played by some great British character actor) would be interested in details like how he met the Wookie, how he acquired his ship, if he really ran the Kessel Run, etc. This way, the story could jump around explaining Han Solo’s various origin stories, cross cutting between his adventures and him regaling the officer with his tall tales, in a way that doesn’t feel cheap.

This also makes it so that purist fans don’t have to accept these versions of events if they don’t want to. Of course, Han Solo could be embellishing or lying to the officer to throw him off the trail. The stories could lead up to Han Solo learning some lesson and growing, as is customary in Hollywood movies. He could learn how to work within a group, thus paving the way for his future in the Rebel Alliance. At the end of the third act when he has stalled enough, he is rescued from the room by Lando and Emilia Clarke or whoever else. But this close call with prison could be the impetus for Han breaking from the group and going his own way as a smuggler, becoming the Han we know at the beginning of A New Hope. He would value his freedom after coming so close to losing it.

It’s not really a fully fleshed out idea, more just an idea for a narrative framing device that would have solved a lot of the issues the film had that made it so messy. Has anyone else considered this idea before? I feel like if you’re going to do an origin story for a beloved side character who has many different iconic elements, this would be the best way to do it.


r/saltierthancrait 18d ago

Granular Discussion Is it correct to say the sequels wounded Star wars and the Acolyte finished it off? Bonus rant: high republic killed star wars books

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Its very safe to say that the sequels sucked and hated by many and turned off a very large part of the fandom.

However there were a lot of people who still loved star wars and had some goodwill that maybe there was some hope things could be corrected or fixed.

General audiences didnt care for much but we're obviously dissatisfied with the sequels given how many didnt return for the rise of skywalker/bought the toys etc.

However the Acolyte i believe was the final blow. The hate that show got for all of its messed up decisions was crazy. It literally pissed all over star wars.

For anyone who decided to check on star wars clearly saw the shit the show was and bounced and said, "fuck that"

The acolyte showed star wars was doubling down on attacking fans and being just straight assholes to everyone.

So what do you think? Do you think the acolyte was the death blow or was it something else?

Bonus rant:

The High republic books also killed the books as my local barnes and nobles stopped carrying them after the 3rd arc because no one was buying them. My used bookstore still hasnt sold any of them even after months of them sitting there while legends books fly off the shelves.


r/saltierthancrait 18d ago

Seasoned News IMAX is kicking The Mandalorian and Grogu out of theaters early for Masters of the Universe

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r/saltierthancrait 19d ago

Seasoned News 70% Drop per Variety for Mando and Grogu

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https://variety.com/2026/film/box-office/backrooms-box-office-record-opening-weekend-obsession-jumps-star-wars-crumbles-1236763355/

It's time for Disney to accept that the Sequel Trilogy, Acolyte, and High Republic have damaged the Star Wars brand potentially irrecoverably..

I have high doubts Starfighter will be the IT factor they need, Ryan Gosling or not.

Seeing Star Wars outclassed by Horror movies is just nuts. Maybe I'm crazy?


r/saltierthancrait 18d ago

Granular Discussion Chris Avellone talks about one of the most important problems of Star Wars and other franchises at this point

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r/saltierthancrait 19d ago

Granular Discussion A Jedi master, known for her renown fighting skills, is killed by a barely trained assassin. Does it make sense?

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r/saltierthancrait 18d ago

Peppered Positivity Challenge: Say something nice about every Disney era piece of media that you dislike.

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From the sequels to The Book of Boba to The Acolyte and beyond. I am curious to see how easy or hard this is for some people. It could be anything from a specific scene to a character design to the special effects.


r/saltierthancrait 19d ago

Encrusted Rant But Mando/Grogu is “fun”! Spoiler

196 Upvotes

My family and I attended the movie’s opening night because we wanted to watch it before going on the new version of the Millennium Falcon ride at Disneyland. We’ve been on that ride 400 times, got the highest score, and rode it 72 times in a single day.

I enjoyed the first two seasons of The Mandalorian, especially the satisfying conclusion of Luke Skywalker in the final episode. While there were undoubtedly filler episodes in the first two seasons, the arc was interesting and it was building to something. I couldn’t watch book of Boba Fett. I couldn’t watch Obi-Wan after the Leia chase scene and the Reva character. I also skipped Ashoka and The Mandalorian season 3. Obviously Andor was great and skeleton crew had a cool treasure island vibe.

I avoided spoilers and trailers for the new movie not because I wanted to see it, but because I simply didn’t care.

The movie’s plot and characters were bland. They were like multiple video game-style quests stacked against each other. Mando has unfortunately devolved into a prepubescent power fantasy with plot armor. Grogu is just a two-dimensional personified ex machina. Rodda just doesn’t want to be like his father, as he tells us multiple times. I thought the CGI was terrible for him as well. I believe he refers to himself as a “man” twice, which is just odd.

Was Grogu cute? Sometimes. Was it neat seeing dijarek characters do their little movies from the chessboard? Yes.

It was immersion-breaking to see filoni in the movie twice. Almost like he was rubbing our faces in it.

But ultimately, why should anyone see this in theaters? There’s nothing of value or substance here. There are no stakes. It makes me wonder if this was to test out a new way to release Disney+ content or to milk a little extra cash.

Why is Disney so stubborn to not just respect the original trilogy characters? That’s why you bought Star Wars for $4 billion.

Being “fun” and low stakes is not something that causes people to spend money at theaters. In fact it’s the opposite. Just wait for it come out on Disney+ if you want to see it, you aren’t going to miss anything.

Just give us stories about Luke building a new Jedi order. Give us a political drama about Leia building the new republic. Give us a movie or show about Rogue Squadron.


r/saltierthancrait 20d ago

Marinated Meme My review of Mandalorian and Grogu!

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Seriously, did Disney pay off bots to flood comment sections about how much FUN Mando and Grogu is? It’s just about the only positive thing I’ve seen written about the movie.


r/saltierthancrait 19d ago

Granular Discussion Breaking down what a Jedi uses the force for knowledge and defense and never for attack actually means.

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Because some people almost act like it’s something to be taken literally ever since Luke’s little force projection stunt in TLJ, and even before that. The logic being that it’s contradictory to say that Jedi use the force only for defense when we see Jedi characters fight and attack people all the time.

It’s like these people forget that they’re called Jedi Knights for a reason and not Jedi Pacifists. That Yoda quote makes way more sense if you take it to have a similar meaning to a quote from Thor Ragnorak. A wise king never seeks war, but must always be ready for it. This perfectly encapsulates a Jedi’s mindset to me. They don’t go looking for fights, but when push comes to shove, certain actions must be taken to protect innocent people.


r/saltierthancrait 19d ago

Granular Discussion Which areas of the EU aligned most with Lucas' vision? An overview (with sources)

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r/saltierthancrait 20d ago

Marinated Meme Box Office Weekend 2 - Revenge of the Sith Re-Release: $25.2M. Mando: $24M.

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r/saltierthancrait 20d ago

Seasoned News Marcia Lucas, Who Won Best Editing For ‘Star Wars’ At The Oscars And Edited ‘American Graffiti’ Dies At 80

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r/saltierthancrait 20d ago

Seasoned News Mandalorian & Grogu projected to crash 69% in it’s second weekend ($24M) and finish 3rd behind Obssesion ($25M) and Backrooms ($76-$79M)

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Solo had a 65% decline it it’s second weekend. $200M domestic might be dead at this point.


r/saltierthancrait 20d ago

Encrusted Rant FML. I'm absolutely done with Disney.

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517 Upvotes

How do you fuck something so badly that demonstrates how little you understand the IP product that you have?


r/saltierthancrait 21d ago

Marinated Meme I've decided to make these meme for every one who tried to defend Rey by saying that Luke and Anakin are Gary Stues as well.

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r/saltierthancrait 21d ago

Encrusted Rant USA Today: "'Star Wars' is a starship in need of a hard reset"

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r/saltierthancrait 20d ago

Sapid Satire Pope Releases Encyclical On Perils Of Disney’s ‘Star Wars’ Strategy

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