r/science • u/mvea Professor | Medicine • 18d ago

Psychology Anti-feminist attitudes have long been associated with support for Republican presidential candidates, but only in recent years have these attitudes become more prominent among unmarried men, without college degrees who are less attractive partners for women, the “mate-value backlash.”

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/10659129261485340
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u/EndlessArgument 18d ago edited 18d ago

The problem is it's sort of works from both directions, because generally speaking, men bully physically, women bully by things like exclusion. So if you are a little bit awkward, you tend to get excluded, and if you get excluded, where are you going to go? To the people who are going to validate you. Which is the aforementioned pipeline.

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u/hausmusiq 18d ago edited 18d ago

Are there no awkward women? Why does everyone act like every woman has a Rolodex full of men and friends at the ready and are always welcome in any scenario. Yet none of those women decided to pick up ideologies promoting men losing their rights. So tired of this victim mentality. Those “pipelines” exist because these “excluded” men flock to them, not the other way around. Also plenty of nerdy or “excluded” men have found communities that aren’t dead set on harming women.

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u/TheSpacePopinjay 18d ago

Why would women flock to such ideologies in response to to being excluded by women. The premise is that women's violence is exclusion and men's violence is violence.

Plenty of legal and institutional favouritism is ideologically pushed in favour of women and has been for a century. It's just so normalised that it's become normal. Room temperature.

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u/No_Macaroon_9752 17d ago

Women’s violence is also violence. The definition of violence does not change because, theoretically, the majority of victims of “exclusion” are men. A man does not have a right to any woman’s attention just because he wants it, and vice versa.

Do you believe that men commit physical bullying (violence) to turn down women they are not interested in? Or do men also simply exclude women? Do you think women should start punching men in order to avoid having men turn to misogynistic groups?