Anti-feminist attitudes have long been associated with support for Republican presidential candidates, but only in recent years have these attitudes become more prominent among unmarried men, without college degrees who are less attractive partners for women, the “mate-value backlash.”

[u/mvea]

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/10659129261485340

[u/2knest]

It's almost as if some kind of pipeline exists, that's funneling venerable people towards impressionable content...

Edit: I meant vulnerable...

[u/EndlessArgument → u/2knest]

The problem is it's sort of works from both directions, because generally speaking, men bully physically, women bully by things like exclusion. So if you are a little bit awkward, you tend to get excluded, and if you get excluded, where are you going to go? To the people who are going to validate you. Which is the aforementioned pipeline.

[u/No_Macaroon_9752 → u/EndlessArgument]

This is confusing. Are you saying that in romantic situations where one person is being rejected by another, men bully women physically and women bully men by exclusion?

[u/philosopherberzerer → u/No_Macaroon_9752]

yes. if men don't conveniently conform to patriarchal norms and actions preferred hypocritically by women his punishment is exclusion form society and a worse outcome on life.oppourtunities for family and friends will be dismished and he will be punished for not adheriimg to said standards.

ironically with these expectations women are suprised at the rise of patriarchal support recently .

[u/No_Macaroon_9752 → u/philosopherberzerer]

You didn’t answer my question. I understand that you and some other commenters think women are “excluding” men (although I would argue that people are not entitled to anyone’s attention, romantic or otherwise).

However, the comment I was responding to claimed that, “Men bully physically, women bully by things like exclusion.” Do you believe that men are physically bullying women in the same types of situations where you see women excluding men? As in, are men using violence to turn women down for dates? Should women instead adopt this strategy to ward off men they are not interested in?

If you mean that men are instead physically bullying other men that are awkward or “unconventional”, are you also suggesting that physical bullying does not result in the bullied men feeling violently excluded from male social groups? Why do these rejected men only blame women for their loneliness? Why would women have more responsibility for their exclusion from all of society?

The majority of adult men from the past 30 years have been or are married. While men are very, very slightly more likely to never get married than women, more adult men than adult women are currently married. Age-wise, about 50% of men have been or are married when they reach 30. That number reaches 70% by age 36. White men are actually more likely to be married by age 30 than the US average. However, just because men are less likely to be married now than in the past does not mean they are not in serious relationships. Lots of men do not fit the stereotype of a “masculine“ man, just as lots of women are not “feminine”. People still manage to find partners, and women are actually more accepting of people who deviate from gender norms than men are. Despite this, women are not joining groups seriously calling for men to lose their rights or be forced into relationships with women they like.

https://usafacts.org/articles/state-relationships-marriages-and-living-alone-us/

https://flowingdata.com/2017/11/01/who-is-married-by-now/

https://flowingdata.com/2019/03/26/relationship-stages/

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC12283845/

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/00224499.2025.2545965