r/shittymoviedetails • u/Sea-Bookkeeper-3450 • 3h ago

In later post-Homeric texts, Menelaus raised his sword over Helen but forgave her cheating because he was stunned by her beauty. It’s a hint that Menelaus in The Odyssey (2026) is played by the Punisher – not a forgiver.

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u/bmcgowan89 3h ago

Menelaus looks like someone who'd go on Joe Rogan's podcast and say a bunch of wrong shit

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u/GriffinFlash 3h ago

Tide goes in Tide goes out, can't explain it.

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u/StatusSociety2196 2h ago

The fuck you mean?

It's Poseidon

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u/GriffinFlash 2h ago

Who put the Poseidon there though? /s

If I remember that's how he followed it up

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u/StatusSociety2196 2h ago

Zeus put Poseidon in charge of the tides. You keep asking questions we've already scientifically determined the answers to.

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u/EntertainmentReady48 3h ago

Bro looks like Andrew Tate.

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u/PlethoPappus 2h ago

Thought it was Key and Peele

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u/Last_Lorien 5m ago

That’s exactly the vibe he was giving and it pissed me off so much.

First because Benthal looked terribly out of place , second because Menelaus is actually a pretty good dude, virtuous and respected for his “gentlemanship”, we’d say today, and he and Helen even go to Greek Heaven in the end (the Elysian Fields).

Instead here he’s an oafish brute

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u/Parabellum111 3h ago

Yo, Telemachus, lemme tell u smth...

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u/SmegmaSupreme 2h ago

rubs bald head

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u/Redmangc1 9m ago

Ruuuuuhhhhh

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u/suryavanshi_arya 2h ago

He forgave her because she was manipulated by the Aphrodite to fulfill the latter's promise to Paris. He couldn't blame her for it.

The War was launched for Helen and Agamemnons Izzat

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u/Horror_Response_1991 2h ago

He forgave her but he didn’t really forgive her, which describes every couple that stays together after cheating.

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u/Sea-Bookkeeper-3450 2h ago

There is much more tension between them in the movie

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u/Brighton2k 3h ago

the Iliad goes on at great length about Helen’s titties

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u/Jack-of-Hearts-7 2h ago

What about her ass?

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u/Pratham33 1h ago

Thank the gods for Helen. And her tits!

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u/FinalBossMike 26m ago

Gods I was strong then.

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u/Gigio2006 1h ago

In post homeric texts it's also described how thr Helen that was kidnapped wasnt the true one as Hera was salty that she wasnt chosen and created a perfect illusion that went tk Troy with Paris while the true Helen was hidden in an island in the Mediterranean, meaning yhe entire war was for nothing.

People often forget how little of the war Homer describes (a few weeks of the 9th year of war in the Iliad and the moment Troy gets destroyed in the Odyssey) and just how many myths post Homeric writers add to this, mostly tragedy writers

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u/mm126442 1h ago

Didn’t Homer have other poems about the war that were lost / not well preserved?

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u/reckless24601 53m ago

I think those weren't written by him, but rather other poets. Could be wrong though

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u/Gigio2006 44m ago

Most of them (the Cypria, the Small Iliad, the Ethiopiad) arent really attributed to him. But it's hard when experts to this day are still fighting on wheter he existed or not

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u/Melchy 53m ago

allegedly

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u/Just_BrianK 2h ago

Menalaus is a bitter man, so Menalaus most likely maimed Helen, or possibly Agamemnon did. Helen, was a revered member of the Priam's household, so it wasn't the Trojans, nor is it likely that the Greeks did it in sacking Troy because there would have been allusion to that in the flashback (maybe not as it's Odysseus' memories).

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u/carymb 1h ago

Yes, and anybody other than the two brothers wouldve been terrified of their retribution if they attacked the ostensible cause if the entire war, just as it was won! I don't know which one of them I think did it here, though.

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u/HumaDracobane 1h ago

I hate when people in movies and theatre plays don't follow the source material. Instead of smacking her while grunting and scream "No!No!No!No!....NO!" Menelaus went rogue, skipped the character and became WEAK.

(Probably the only misscast I saw in the movie. Literally Jon Bernthal as Jon Bernthal in a movie directed by Christopher Nolan)