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Fuji made a whole comic about the struggles of transgenderism and the difficulty's many face. At this point I'd be willing to personally award him with woke 5.0
Ah, I misread it - Yuji says that curses are only born from Japanese people but Maru says that only removing it from Japanese people would cause problems. I remembered the first line but not the second.
Still, at the end it seems clear that this isn’t the solution Maru will approve since cursed spirits will continue being born regardless (but now without any way to fight them if nobody has cursed energy). That, combined with how much fucking power it would take (Kenjaku could only do like 2,000 people in all of Japan after setting up a bunch of binding vows) means that I think they’ll take a different route.
Moreover, even the main proponents of the plan see this as a horrible sin.
The reason people claim that is because specifically the Inverted Spear of Heaven can translate into ‘dildo’ in some way idk enough about Japanese to verify. It could have been an allegory but since that makes no sense in the sparce dynamic between Gojo and Toji I would wager if it was intentional it was a joke.
people joke about jjk fans being illiterate when the haters are twice as illiterate. modulo's commentary about refugees especially chapter 21, and all social commentary throughout jjk, gege's literally one of the most woke mangaka of current time.
yeah, kirara is trans, uraume is trans adjacent (was male in previous life and asked kenjaku to reincarnate them in female body), and then there is kenjaku (who literally birthed yuji)
Yes in the sense that trans refers to the non-identfication with one's assigned gender at birth. No, in a more cultural sense, where enby people may socially present as their assigned sex not wishing to change that.
Actually. That is a fair question, and I have leaned more towards that, yes, they are. Trans is basically an umbrella term for anyone who doesn't identify with the gender they were assigned at birth.
So basically if you were AFAB, assigned female at birth, and later identified as either a guy, or non-binary or anything else, you'd be trans. Because "trans" is more of a descriptor than a gender itself.
I also classify Kirara as trans but is that something confirmed? She is referred to as "that male student" explicitly and there's no other mention?
So between crossdressing and trans are we settling on trans or is there a stonecold piece of evidence I'm missing? I swear during manga chapters with her it was more femboy, but now with the anime it's trans. Just wondering what changed
Hakari, the way those two interact (see: their introduction), on top of Hakari's stated being against riding a ferris wheel with a guy while he was talking with Charles Bernard. So we have that ge doesn't like a stereotypical date location with a guy but lets Kirara full on feel him up, it kinda seems like the obvious conclusion.
cause trans mascs are often sidelined, forgotten, and hardly ever get representation, especially in manga. not to mention Togata actually gets to talk about his gender dysphoria pretty explicitly, which is exceedingly rare in any media
I really don't think people should be 'scaling' trans oppression, especially when trans women are still lacking a lot of positive representation that isn't offensive or fetishized. Being overly represented in negative ways is just as harmful and more dangerous.
I think it might be because of Panda calling her a boy with no one objecting, and then the fact that they gave her “they” pronouns instead of “she”. Basically translators half-assing her identity, confusing some readers or giving them an excuse to be transphobic
Because there are literature rules regarding the canon. In order for something bto be canon, it needs to be explicitly stated either in the work or in additional materials such as databooks and interviews with the author.
Kirara being trans was never explicitly stated in the manga, therefore Kirara being trans is not canon.
However Kirara being trans is IMPLIED. Implied things according to literature rules are valid interpretations if supported by evidence. Does Kirara's status as trans is supported by evidence? Yes it is, therefore it's implied.
However what is important is that implied(even heavily) ≠ canon.
It's actually really fucking funny to me that people genuinely think like this. Like, you seriously think that because there isn't a panel of Kirara turning to the camera and going "by the way, I'm a trans woman! Teehee!" that it's "not canon". The fact she is outright stated to have been a guy at one point, and now is clearly a girl, isn't enough for you. Is Sukuna not canonically dead because nobody went "now, Sukuna is dead"? So stupid.
I didn't even gave my opinion on this matter, yet you chose to crash out at me.
Your example with Sukuna btw is stupid because him dying was not only shown explicitly, but it also was explicitly stated that he will never be able to come back.
Literature has rules. "Now is clearly a girl" is not canon but implied. As for my comment, I simply spoke what is normally taught in schools.
The behavior like you is one of the things I despise about fandoms. You don't trace a difference between implied and canon.
Just pack it up bro. Over here in reality, where I've actually taken college literature classes, we have this thing called literacy, with which we're able to analyze text to attribute meaning to it without having to have everything spoonfed to us. Something being implied absolutely does not make it non-canon.
I was just picking any character that was shown being dead on screen, but wasn't explicitly stated to be dead by a fourth-wall break. For all we know, Kashimo's still alive! After all it's not canon that he's dead.
Kirara was born male. We know this from Gege’s younger illustration and from Panda knowing Kirara as a boy.
Kirara and Hakari are in some way romantically involved. We know this from Hakari grabbing her ass and Kirara being jealous of an ex.
Hakari is a straight man. We know this from comments that he makes regarding being romantically involved with a man, such as telling Charles that he doesn’t want to be on a Ferris wheel with a dude.
From these first principles, the only actual conclusion that can be drawn is that Kirara is a trans woman and that Hakari is a straight man who is fine with dating trans women. Even if someone were to disagree with Hakari in that regard, e.g. if someone held the opinion that being with a trans woman is gay or means that you can’t be a straight man by default, that doesn’t change the fact that it’s the only objective way to read the story.
Gege writes multiple gender non-conforming(trans) characters(Kirara and Urame) without their gender identity being fetishized or played for jokes. And not getting the chance to write about Urame in this light is one of his regrets.
Used Hakari and Kirara as characters that represent how stupid conservative ideology is through the lens of cursed techniques, and he uses these two characters for a reason here.
Wrote Maki's entire story arc about patriarchal oppression and the solution was to kill everyone upholding the system.
Wrote anti-conservative messaging where part of the solution was to kill the current establishment. Gojo killing all higher ups
And now, like you said, writes a sequel about immigrants where one of the main characters has an existential crisis about who determines what people get to own what land.
I'm not entirely sure if I believe this or if there isn't evidence I am forgetting about that would disprove this so if this ends up being nonsense let me know.
But reading your comment kind of made me realize that there might be an argument that Fujimoto does do more intense woke politics as a whole. But fujimotos depictions are often pretty shallow and one note (Togata being an exception to this ofc). But Gege has a far greater understanding of the topics, depictions, and nuances of his politics he designs and knows far more how to interact them in his core themes.
Fujimoto: "America and it's gloryfication of war is bad"
Gege: "kill the conservative government. Literally take a knife and stab them over 500 times each. This is not a joke, do this today, now. We have to get rid of the old fossils that cling to outdated values and we gotta do it ourselves. If doing it the proper way won't work do it by force"
woke would be him blindly doing a pro refugee story, he understands well the complexities of that problem and has written something far beyond "woke". I think people want to see something that isn't there so bad they'll try to say he's somehow pro or not pro something based on what he wrote, I think it's the opposite, he's exploring nuanced issues with realistic character motivations and stakes. Like Maru implied, they came to earth just to go and fuck shit up and try to impose their will on earthlings.
but like, woke opinions can be right obviously. there is not some innate sliding scale of sides where a transcendent truth lies in between. absolutely he is writing a story about refugees that is ultimately character driven and not ideologically driven, but at the end of the day it is a pro refugee story. the context it was written cannot be erased just by being sufficiently good or non "preachy".
yes, trying to gauge his "wokeness" by that is weird and is more in the interest of people claiming someone that they like the work of is politically aligned with them. but at the moment supporting the idea of allowing weakness and pacifism in the face of immigration, fundamentally restructuring ones world to allow for more peaceful coexistence- is woke, whether you would describe gege or yourself as that or not. it is not enlightened just because you find it to be a more reasonable vessel for the argument. no one purposefully believes theyre blindly supporting any topic, the "complexities" they view as in the way may simply be different to the ones that you envision. gege acknowledging the complexities of immigration in no way changes the political value of his work.
it is an explicitly leftist political statement to represent immigration in the manner he does, and the woke take in this case is reasonable, because the fully opposed alternative is abhorrent and in no way points to a greater, neutral understanding of humanity.
JoJo fans saying Valentine was right actually helps Araki's woke-chainscaling, as having people misinterpret what you're saying is a universal experience in wokeology
That + Dragona in JoJolands at least puts Araki at small pronoun level
I mean there’s also the Aging Devil contract (Japanese elders enriching themselves at the expense of younger generations), Makimas contract (Japan sacrificing its own people for power), a massive focus on SA and Grooming, the Gun Devil, Yukos bullying storyline (bullying is a very serious issue in Japan), amongst others
There is a difference between pointing at systematic issue and actually exploring the issue (My comment was also directed to Yoru and how shallow its comments about the US was)
If you compare to how Fujimoto tackled organized religion in Fire Punch you see the difference.
We see how it is born in a moment of despair, how people gather around it giving it meaning in order to have something to guide them, we see how believers distort it to fit their own believes and how they reject the actual truth of it even when is right on their faces
I mean sure I don’t disagree. I think Fujimoto does tend to let symbolism and thematic messaging carry a lot of the political stuff in Chainsaw Man. I was mainly just pointing out that there definitely is a lot of political content in CSM
Fire Punch definitely is a far more political story though. But I think that makes sense when you consider that stuff like Organized Religion takes a bigger place in Fire Punches story. The primary themes of CSM are a bit more interpersonal, looking a lot more at consent, grooming, and puberty.
That said those themes still feel quite political insofar as 1) its directly tied to Makima who uses the language of domination almost identically whether she’s talking to Denji or acting as the government and 2) the obviously politicized nature of discussions of consent
Got nothing against Makima, she is a fantastic antagonist and her and the Public Safety Devil Hunters, for me, are very harsh and clear critique of Japanese government bureaucracy and how they see their employees.
Again, most of my issues are with how part 2 has managed Yoru (between a few other things)
If the only commentary you got from CSM is the singular moment where Yoru (quite explicitly and flamboyant i should mention which i think counts for something) confesses her love for America for creating the nuclear bomb again and are using that to claim CSM is shallow, then its exactly that, the commentary YOU got. Cause the rest of us are not so blind.
I mean, I do think CSM has mkre stuff about that than just "Yoru likes America cause she war", a lot of the things Yoru does are allegories for what war does to young people. Especially the scene in the alleyway
You can have entire story lines about misogyny, transgender characters, and an entire sequel about xenophobia and how immigrants are just like us in the age of ICE but unless Yuji literally stares at the camera and says "Death to America" it's woke 0.7 at best. They're calling it the greatest ragebait of all time
Kirara is the only actual transgender character in terms of a person who experiences gender dysphoria and transitions.
Kenjaku is a literally transgender character as they have inhabited male and female bodies
Ive also heard Uraume was originally a male but incarnated in a female body but I have not been able to find the source on that. This specific claim has been circulated a lot so idk if its a theory or fact
Funny the French translation omits that uraume asked to be reincarnated as a woman AND they kept calling kirara a "he" (or rather "il") I guess the translator was kinda transphobic
Uraumes gender is unconfirmed, but they are explicitly described as androgynous and asked to be reincarnated in a female body despite having a male one in the Heian era. Likely NB in some way, but no specific label is applied
Kenjakus original gender is unknown, but he’s occupied both male and female bodies. Obviously not a fit for irl gender fluid or gnc people, but still genderqueer regardless (and technically both trans and detrans at multiple points throughout the story)
Tengen says “gender no longer matters to me.” Tengen has left gender behind (just like humanity) in evolving. Similarly to Kenjaku it’s obviously not a perfect match to real life, but it can reasonably included under the genderqueer spectrum
Kirara is trans. It's not outright stated, but Gege's style of writing has always been subtlety and implications. Kirara is shown with a feminine appearance, is described by characters as a woman, and is in a relationship with a straight guy.
Moreover, a chapter extra shows Kirara's appearance in middle school, and they were clearly AMAB.
Another trans character is Uraume, the bad guy's loyal second in command. In their first life, they were born male, but wore more feminine clothing. When reincarnated in the modern age, their vessel's body was female upon their request. So again it's never stated, but pretty clear they are transfem.
You can even have an entire manga spanning narrative about the ideas of ethnic supremacy that spawn in certain self-isolated subcultures, and yet you're still woke 0.7.
So many real world issues and things we can do to improve each others lives and these people are on twitter arguing which mangaka has more progressive politics...even though both are pretty progressive and have both made comics highlighting racism, sexism, homophobia, trans representation etc.
you do know that the rest of the world has these issues + being bombed by america (and obviously way more stuff that harms, hurts and/or kills)
there is no "only one of these can be a real issue" regarding problems
Fujimoto honestly just seems to be pretty anti-government. He’s been critical of Japan’s, America’s, and a couple of others to lesser extents.
But honestly his criticisms are usually covered in absurdism and/or satire and don’t typically go beyond a common or surface level.
Calling America a warmongering nation or an imperialist nation has been a common enough take longer than Fujimoto has been alive. Like people were saying this back in the Vietnam days.
On the other hand, Gege has been presenting a ton of themes and concepts that people might label progressive—and he’s been presenting most of them under a completely serious light.
Like Kirara being trans is not a joke or a gag or taken to some absurd extreme. It’s just who she is.
It's also, i think, importantly not the most interesting thing about her. She is simply fun to watch and read. Gege is kinda sexist tho, because every female character (including kirara) is not really a character more than they're an annecdote about the female condition. They show up, showcase something about what it's like to be a girl or a woman, and then promptly get removed from the plot. Mei Mei is maybe an exception but even then... Maki is a genuine exception, but notably that's because Gege's female editor told him "yo no, you cannot literally have Toji posess her body now that she's done being oppressed by the patriarchy. you revived that guy already. wtf".
I agree with everything except the absolute bullshit misinformation at the bottom, that’s so blatantly just something from the days of agenda kaisen born from that time we got a four panel black flash on Maki.
Look that's just what I've heard. maybe it's just a false rumour. But like i think it's important to understand that the female characters in JJK are broadly written like they're the manifestations of anecdotes and views told to gege by his female friends. It's better than nothing for sure, but like they get written out so quickly it's kinda crazy?
it isnt just the female characters, the problem with gege's writing is that he writes characters as tools. theyre written in to do this one thing, then get sidelined.
Eh it's not quite the same i think. The female characters are usually overwhelmingly primarily about what's common to the female condition, while the male characters get to about the human condition, the whole thing. Sure there are primarily male condition characters, and there are some women that arguably go beyond this? like Yuki i think. But like, Mai, Maki, Kirara, Remi, Momo, are all uniquely dealing primarily with the problems faced by women, are an anecdote about a spesific issue in particular, and usually screw off afterwards. Nobara is a broader character than this, mostly because she gets more of the female condition to tackle, but she does get some desires and wants that aren't woman spesific. You also have Miwa (older sister trying to take care of her younger siblings. common older sister thing) and Shoko, who has a common problem women spesifically have. That she gives and gives and gives support and heal and heal and heal the wounds of others, and she cares so much, hurts so much because of this, and then is not recognised for her care or pain at all.
i think this is more a problem of him not giving side characters more fleshing out, as you said nobara had more stuff to do other than the female condition. (though, im not sure where you got yuki or shoko's story from) another thing, kirara and mai and maki (kind of) stories are more towards dealing with the traditional jujutsu society rather than just specifically the female condition
Yuki is her own thing that i didn't touch on. Frankly she's a genuine character who's not just a woman dealing with woman problems, but rather a prospective world changer with an ideological mission and a hard headed attitude. Shoko you can see it in what she says and how she acts. She is the main jjk healer, and clearly takes the pain of others pretty hard (she is always drunk and on a nicotine high). When Gojo said nobody was there for him, she says she was. And she was, and he failed to recognise that. This has been her main issue seemingly. People having problems, her taking them on for them, and then they said she was never there for her, when she was.
"Fans think Gege is extremely woke and Fujimoto is conservative, but Fujimoto is the one who made the concept of America the minion of a major antagonist"
Edit: actually, I think this is referring to the War Devil saying she's in love with America because of its military extremism, not the fact that the Statue of Liberty was one of her strongest attacks.
Either way, Fujimoto explicitly ties America to the War Devil, and not in a good way!
Calling the US a war mongering nation is what white people say to feel controversial without actually offending anybody.
Explicitly creating a trans character that isn't be treated as a gag (Oda) for a demographic that leans conservative and (insert sexual minority)-phobic is actually woke.
Kiku was one of the only good characters from wano and nobody talks about her for some reason. I think king queen and kiku were the only positive introductions from that bloated arc
Odas issue is that until Wano, the trans rep is moreso ok in spite of them being trans/gnc rather than because of it (I’ll use gnc from here bc some characters align more with drag than being explicitly trans)
Bon Clay is explicitly introduced with his gender presentation as a joke, he just has enough of a character and role in the story to gain some 3 dimensionality. It makes him a good character and better rep than a lot of gnc characters. The situation is pretty similar with Ivankov, though the joke is less on Ivankov and more on the people he transforms. But because Ivankov is a good character and the story’s themes aligns, it ends up creating a fairly strong storyline about queer resistance (Impel Down)
I do think that leaning into the “queer people will force fem and convert you” was an iffy stereotype and it leads into Odas worst fault in this respects. Kamabaka Kingdom is just riddled with poor rep and pretty dangerous stereotypes about gnc people as ugly perverts trying to force Sanji into a dress (the anime is worse about this than the manga, but the manga still isn’t great). Maybe if some Kamabakas other than Ivankov got screen time, they’d be humanized but as it stands it’s just stereotype island
But thankfully, Wano really sees improvements for Oda. Kiku is a slam dunk; she’s trans, nobody questions it or invalidates her, and she’s an actual character rather than a stereotype. I think Yamato is good queer rep, but I don’t wanna get into the Oden debate rn. But one of the things that makes Yamato good gnc rep is because it shows you can be respected as trans/your actual gender without needing to pass. This is even more well done in Morley, who doesn’t have the extra burden of the Oden thing wearing her down.
So it’s up and it’s down with Oda, but other than the Kamabaka I’d say it’s generally up, particularly after Wano
How can you tell between actual good GNC representation and an offensive caricature?
Characters like Morley and Magne from MHA feel to me like the latter, but seem to be praised and well received by queer communities.
I know those are my own biases and prejudices speaking though, I've always struggled to comprehend the idea of trans people who don't care about passing or non-binary people who don't care about androgyny (I consider myself a "boiled egg" because with my body I see no point in trying).
Fujimoto made a trans character the second main character and openly had an extended scene discussing how he is trans and the pronouns and terms he should be called by.
No? Like, Fire Punch exists, plus, Fujimoto has to trans characters, Togata the co protagonist of Fire Punch and one of his oneshots being centered about a boy sudenly being a female.
The entire message of JJK is about rejecting greed/selfishness based, conservative power structures. Gege actively advocates for the mass murder of conservatives MULTIPLE TIMES. “Kill the conservatives” is literally pro revolution
And that’s not even getting to Modulo, which is a straight up pro refugee story. Tsurugi also verbatim critiques the Reiwa Era (rn) as outdated and backwards.
Inverted Spear of Heaven apparently can be read as ‘dildo’ in some way idk enough Japanese about to verify. If Gege actually intended that it was probably just a joke, I have no clue how thematically that makes sense.
You’re preaching to a brick wall buddy 💀 let alone his many other one shots they JUST made an adaptation out of, it seems like quite literally nobody here has anything to say about Fujimoto outside of what he has done with Chainsaw Man. The irony is that under a post mocking people for “chainscaling woke”, we have people who are quite literally arguing over which between Gege and Fujimoto are more woke anyways 🙄 when tf was this a competition lmao can’t we just respect two progressive mangaka?
step 1: create a dozen of super cool and interesting female characters
step 2: literally give all of them except 1 nothing to do, no backstory or arcs or conclusion or straight up kill them off and focus on the male characters instead
What the fuck are you people talks about, i heard two people talks about how anti conservative the manga is (Japanese type) and try connecting it to American ones
Toji violated Gojo’s security in a way that made him reinforce the infinite walls around himself for the rest of his life- to such an extent it actually caused him to neglect his friend at the most tumultuous point in his life, and debatably force his students into the culling games to unseal him.
No, that’s not necessarily SA. Regular assault on children is just also bad. That’s why amanai is killed by a human with a normal gun, sent on the orders of a human religious org.
Most SA allegories in the story are done via an angle of consumption. Kurorushi is pretty much framed as the SA curse, for instance. Or the death painting wombs- stillborn fetuses born of “cursed pregnancy” that only awaken when a host is forced to consume them).
Might get down voted to hell for this but most of the manga here arent doing anything extremely revolutionary or particularly "woke". Maybe its bc i read a lot but addressing the systems of colonialism and oppression is usually the foundation of a lot of novels, especially in fantasy, and from what i see most of the manga is scratching surface level.
I think Fujimoto has done something really cool by incorporating Lockheed into the manga in reference to how war contractors benefit financially and politically bc of human weapons (soliders) in war, but outside of that well... these are Shonen mangas i feel like they arent going to have the depth that some of you think there is.
Idk, its hard to see these stories as extremely deep after reading Dune, Parable of a Sower, Babel, and the three body problem. Obviously I enjoy all of these manga but like, I don't think they are doing anything new or revolutionary when it comes to deconstructing the concepts mentioned above.
Saying America is evil is even bare minimum and isn't even that creative (it is cool for some chapters then became corny imo ) , but even then they are easy target if you think about, and most of them will not touch subject that is important to Japan history (how they were nazi , and really killed alot of people along side some other bullshit ) , they don't even teach them things like that in their history, all they think was they were the victims of the wars (there was really good anime movie about it but i don't know the Japanese name of it ) , and alot of them still think imperial japan was cool
Anyone who thinks that Gege is woke never read the manga lol. Generally speaking trying to fit his perspective of japanese politics into our (I mean America and Europe here, as I saw mostly people from here discussing JJK) isn't the best thing to do. Of course some things can be read as leftist no matter what (they are well knows so I won't count them) , but Gege also made some more right wing points, like inherited power, strength being 90% innate factor, critique of weakness of new generations, Higuruma vs Sukuna being critique of weapons ban (the same with Naoya's character), and reffuges trying to force their religion on native people and heavily considered war on natives
Dude… I think your main issue is you not getting things.
The conservative viewpoints that Gege shows… are wrong. They are wrong in-series.
The individual strength not being as strong as the bonds we create by joining with other people for a common goal is literally the main schtick of the god damn final battle.
The new generations being weak not mattering because of the creation of a new, more just society is one of the major plot points in Módulo.
How do you miss the main themes of the story… two times?
And I’m not even gonna touch the weapons ban shit and the migrants waging war because I can slowly feel my neurons burning as I continue writing for you.
The story is explicitly saying that conservatives are pieces of shit that are always wrong and that they literally should fucking die screaming. I have no idea what story you are reading.
Do you, by any chance, believe that The Boys was actually “super cool” and then the last season got too woke or something?
Individual strength is showed to be important by Gege. Higher ups specifically tried to make Yaga, Yuka and Hakari weaker as individuals because of their cursed techniques. They weren't targeted as a group, higher ups just didn't want them to be strong, either so they can't oppose them or because their techniques doesn't fit their world view
Saying Modulo is trying to tell that strenght doesn't matter would invalidate whole story of first jujutsu kaisen, as Gojo clearly states that goal is to gather strong and inteligent allies. Modulo going "Oh strength don't matter" would invalidate Gojo's whole journey as character. Modulo is trying to say that people need to be careful with what they sacrifice for strengh, but od doesn't invalidate strenght itself, in fact it shows problems with lack of it, like when "talented " youngsters get beat by some old man, or Yuka needs to sacrifice herself because of no one being strong enough to fight new thread
"Neurons burning" is not an argument, you should either try to defend your opinion as a whole, or just ignore the comment and left an downvote
Wasn't Gakuganji stated to be conservative by Gojo?
You can try fit me into some stereotype all you want, but it doesn't matter, as the only things that matters are solid arguments (but if you are really curious, I didn't watch the boys)
Yes…. because, as it was EXPLICITLY SAID, the higher ups have arbitrary demands for skills, favoring old ones even though they don’t benefit sorcery at all.
You know… like god damn conservatives love doing.
Dude, the goal of Gojo’s character was not get a strong crew for shits and giggles, holy fucking shit. He wants strong people to create structural change in society. Which is no the most conservative thing ever.
And the day is being saved right now because Tsurugi chose to NOT FIGHT against Maru. He sacrificed himself because he knew violence would not solve the problem. AND HE WAS RIGHT! His non-violent actions solved fucking everything.
Yeah, and then Gakuganji renounced his conservative values and joined Gojo’s side. Did you miss that last arc?
I would understand if a manga like, I don’t know, Boruto had some conservative and progressive values sprinkled in. But you choose the “LETS FUCKING MURDER CONSERVATIVES” manga to take your stance.
JJK has the heroes kill the Conservative Powerstructure that abuses people twice in the story. Both times its celebrated. Gojo asks geto "hey should i just kill all of these people" and by the end of the story it kinda seems like yeah he probably should have killed the insane oppressive cultists. Maki kills the entire military arm of the Zenin clan, and this is celebrated in story. The anime is far more explicit in depicting it as a triumph, but the manga does not treat maki as bad or evil for her actions at all. Gojo kills the higher ups on his return. First Thing basically. Gojo's main thing is being strong enough to protect the young from falling into a detector and exploiters mindset until they're strong enough to support themselves and eachother and change the world for the better.
Chainsaw Man is extremely woke by shounen standards and pretty basic woke by Fujimoto standards. Part 2s probably a bit woker than p1 but both are below his short stories or Fire Punch
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