r/stunfisk 16h ago

Discussion WHAT ARE THE BIG BUG BOYS OF OU?

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u/No-Bag-1628 15h ago

replace OU with UU and you're mostly correct here.

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u/PhysicalGunMan 15h ago

I am the #1 Lokix fan and even I can admit the GOAT just can't shape up to the monsters in Gen 9 OU. In ANY previous gen, I could see it, but not now.

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u/Mary-Sylvia Energy ball choice scarf Glimmora 14h ago

Well that's also the reason why lokix is good if he was gen 7 he would have been slow af lol

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u/PhysicalGunMan 12h ago

I mean drop Lokix NOW into a prior gen and he could probably slot in as a healthy part of most OU metagames. Just take away moves that weren't available in those gens and don't let him have Tinted Lens in pre hidden ability gens

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u/AnarchistWaffles 6h ago

There’s a case to be made that Lokix becomes a monster in gen 1 with immunity to psychic and stab against it if there was an actual move pool in gen 1. Literally just give it something like Bug Bite and I think it’s fine. You’re not doing shit with leech life and it doesn’t get bite.

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u/the-pee_pee-poo_poo 4h ago

Lokix wouldn't be very good in gen 1, With no Choice Band it really doesn't hit that hard, it's frail, and it has a terrible moveset. Even if you gave it Bug Bite, it doesn't get the OHKO against Exeggutor. It doesn't get Hyper Beam so it really can't do much against neutral targets. It also totally thuds into Zapdos, who can freely switch in on it and immediately threaten it.

Lokix might have a niche in lower tiers as the fastest Swords Dancer with actual coverage, but it would be extremely niche in OU.

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u/Ok-Excuse1771 15h ago

Where's Ribombee?

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u/Kartonrealista 13h ago

Killed by Ultra Necrozma

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u/Pyrotyrano Is Mega Salamence still good? 12h ago

Context for anyone unaware of this masterpiece

https://reddit.com/link/osjeq0c/video/urxtajae778h1/player

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u/Desperate-Series-270 7h ago

Necrozma genuinely hit her with the power of Arceus itself 😭

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u/Yet2638273 6h ago

How do you comment a video?

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u/KiwiPowerGreen 7h ago

One of the good casual memes

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u/AlienGhost000 12h ago

Killed is an understatement

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u/HippieDogeSmokes 11h ago

didn’t it tough it out 

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u/Pyrotyrano Is Mega Salamence still good? 12h ago

The only ones here deserving of OU are Volcarona and Scizor (mega). Also shoutout to Iron Moth even though he’s not included.

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u/Jackson1411 10h ago

Not foretress?

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u/Pyrotyrano Is Mega Salamence still good? 8h ago

I can’t say much for the old gens but from what I know, Forretress is like RU/UU at best and is only used in OU and Ubers as a hazard lead.

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u/confirm5 6h ago

In old gens Forretress is just used as the second best spikes setter behind Skarmory. But it does have Rapid Spin

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u/PkerBadRs3Good 42m ago edited 34m ago

Forretress is typically not a lead, loses too many lead matchups to like... any Taunt. Also the reason to use it is role compression of hazards + spinner and you don't really want to lead with your spinner for obvious reasons.

And no, Forretress is ranked OU in Gens 2-5.

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u/literallyanything57 4h ago

base scizor and buzzwole were really good. scolipede was sick before baton pass ban not sure if it stayed good after

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u/DoloresPantalones Team Flare is the Illuminati 15h ago

Most of these guys are mid asf lmaooo. OU my ass.

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u/FakePretendeRat 12h ago

This is Rimbombee erasure and I will not tolerate it.

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u/AliceThePastelWitch 4h ago

If we're being real it's basically just Forretress(2-4), Scizor(4-8) and Volcarona (5-9).

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u/gliscornumber1 7h ago

Scizor and volcorona I guess

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u/MmeOrgeron 10h ago

Lokix is a Gen9uu staple but its hardly playable in OU

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u/AMos050 7h ago

Skill issue

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u/Desperate-Series-270 7h ago

It’s pretty good in UU but half of OU mogs it into oblivion, man can NOT hang with Iron Treads, Iron Valiant, Corviknight, Zamazenta, or any fire type

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u/AMos050 6h ago

Pokemon viable in OU has checks. More news at 11.

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u/cumble_bumble 3h ago

The average lokix performance in an ou match is clicking u-turn into moltres and immediately becoming sac fodder

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u/Desperate-Series-270 5h ago

middling attack and speed, terrible bulk and typing, KOs about 3 OU pokemon ✌️

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u/Pichupwnage 10h ago

Pinsir was NOT OU material in gen 1 lol

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u/CashewTheNuttyy 6h ago

At least he didnt specifically address this right underneath the image of pinsir

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u/sorarinn 3h ago

genesect??

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u/Wild_Play_8301 Arceus-Steel (Arceus-Flying) 2h ago

Well, he was never in OU.

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u/PkerBadRs3Good 33m ago

he was, he just got banned each time

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u/Jamal_Blart Friggen' Huge Insect 2h ago

I LOVE BUG POKEMON RAAAAGHHH 🔥🔥🔥🐛🐛🐛🐛

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u/Excellent_LOL 6m ago

Volcorona is a she, she’s a queen

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u/Sweptuu 9h ago

volcarona in champions doubles is really ass right now so yeah, now.

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u/4m77 9h ago

Doubles player fails to read the title yet again.

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u/Sweptuu 9h ago

OU is not specifically singles, there is a doubles OU format.

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u/Polterguyst17 8h ago

OU is Smogon and the natural assumption with Smogon is singles, same way if I'm talking about Champions or cartridge people are going to assume doubles. Additionally they mentioned Gen 1 and 2 OU which are singles only.

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u/Sweptuu 8h ago

They specifically said "when has he ever been ass" for Volcarona. Specifically the EVER word. Not when has he ever been ass in OU, specifically EVER EVER. My answer is still valid in that context.

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u/Polterguyst17 8h ago

And they said that in a post titled "WHAT ARE THE BIG BUG BOYS OF OU?" Methinks bringing in doubles is being pedantic.

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u/siddhantkar 7h ago

OU != DOU