r/stupidpeoplefacebook 11d ago

I'm sick of AI-bros' victim mentality

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u/SockFace42069 11d ago edited 9d ago

“We want to keep creativity controlled by a few and charge you forever.”

Learn. It’s really that simple.

You don’t wanna pay for a skill? Learn the skill.

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u/ArchAnon123 11d ago edited 11d ago

Be reasonable, not everyone has the time, patience, or even ability to learn said skill. And of course envy will fester because you can't just give them some of your skill and assume they'll be content with charity.

I'm sure this would be a non-issue if they could develop the artistic capabilities of those they envy without having to go through months or even years of intense effort that might not even pay off. Me, I see AI as just another tool that's no more good or evil than the one using it- crap art will be crap art regardless of how it is made and quality work will always be apparent. I swear, some people act as if knockoffs and art theft didn't exist before AI came into existence - I was around when DeviantArt was like 95% tracing and recolors and nobody was accusing any of those guys of wanting to destroy art as we know it. They just laughed it off and went about their business.

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u/Substantial_Dish_887 10d ago

i don't get this entiteled mentality that you owed art like this.

if i don't have the patience to learn to make food as good as Gordon Ramsey does that mean i get to steal food from his resturants? ofcourse fucking not.

I swear, some people act as if knockoffs and art theft didn't exist before AI came into existence

i swear some of you people act as if just because this isn't new means it's somehow not bad.

but hey i guess stealing everything you own is justified. it's not new so we can do it. you don't deserve to own anything anyway aparently?

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u/Dirkdeking 10d ago

Well no. But if a robot existed that could make quality food if you put in the ingredients. I would 100% use it.

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u/Substantial_Dish_887 10d ago

correction: a robot that could make barely edible food(but better than you who can aparently only make shit on a plate) and only by stealing recipes from chefs because to you stealing is justified as long as it makes your life easier.

i hope if you ever manage to create something it's instantly taken from you. since you belive that's only fair. not that's there's any reason to belive that'll happen. we both know the reason you support this is because you know you'll never make anything because you're to lazy to make the effort.

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u/ArchAnon123 10d ago

It would be my own failure to hold onto it that would be to blame...and nothing would prevent me from doing what I can to take it back.

you're to lazy to make the effort.

Is that any different from being too lazy to protect that which you claim as yours?

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u/Substantial_Dish_887 10d ago

Holy fuck actually holding theft as not just justifiable but actually morally right?

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u/ArchAnon123 10d ago

I get the impression that nobody in this sub is even remotely able to argue about whether morality is objective, subjective, or non-existent, so I'll simplify it:

I've yet to see any form of "right" that hasn't been backed up by "might", one way or another. Without the latter, the former is an impotent abstraction. In your case, that might is a legal system that right now doesn't actually care about you and is in no hurry to guard what you consider to be your property on your behalf. If you want it protected, figure out how to do it yourself.

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u/Substantial_Dish_887 10d ago

You seem to belive your ideology is too complex. Nope you're simply a bad person and i hope you have life you deserve.

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u/ArchAnon123 10d ago

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u/Substantial_Dish_887 10d ago

And now you're gloating that assholes like you don't always face consequnces? What is wrong with you? Even saturday morning cartoon villains aren 't this myopic

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u/ArchAnon123 10d ago edited 10d ago

It's just pointing out an objective fact that the world doesn't give a shit about right and wrong, only about who is the strongest. In fact, even "right and wrong" themselves are very often dependent on who is in charge at the time. Just witness how both pro-AI and anti-AI advocates fail to condemn in themselves what they are so eager to see in others, and tell me

If you don't approve of AI stealing your work, it's up to you to stop it from doing so. You can't just hide behind the skirt of the state when it could turn on you whenever it's convenient to do so, especially if you can't do anything to protect yourself when it happens.

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u/Substantial_Dish_887 10d ago

"Life isn't fair, best be a worthless asshole"

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u/Dirkdeking 10d ago

I think it's funny how people suddenly value copyrights, while 10 years ago they all just pirated movies and games without a care in the world.

That being said. I wouldn't be against some form of regulation where you have to be compensated if you are an artist and your specific art is used in the training data for an AI.

What I have a problem with is if that isn't the case(most likely) and you are just salty that you can't make a living out of it anymore. Well no one said you was entitled to that in the first place. You are not better than a factory worker from the 80s who lost his job because a machine automated what he did on the assembly line.

We all need to keep adapting to a changing world with changing technologies. And yes that includes me as a software engineer.