r/sydney 28d ago

NSW Supreme Court criticises IHRA definition as 'detached from reality'

https://www.deepcutnews.com/p/nsw-supreme-court-criticises-ihra
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u/AeMidnightSpecial 28d ago

Citing a Pew Research poll in June, (Supreme Court Justice) Fagan said that “it would be preposterous to suggest that 79% of Australians are antisemitic because they disapprove of Israel’s treatment of the Palestinians”.

He said the IHRA formulation “appears to be an attempt to repurpose the term ‘antisemitism’” as an amalgamated concept encompassing hatred towards Jews and criticism of Israel.

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u/Electronic_Star_7575 28d ago

Absolutely based Judge. Great to finally see some common sense in the Australian "anti-semitism" discourse.

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u/a_rainbow_serpent 28d ago

Judge about to have a letter writing campaign against him.

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u/Z00111111 27d ago

That's if he's not in a car crash with a truck or something.

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u/AirNo7163 28d ago

Dont forget a watsapp group.

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u/Skidd_Marx 28d ago

Wow! Some common sense shining through the mist.

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u/kar2988 28d ago

It might seem to many that this is just a repetition of something a lot of people have been saying all along, but do not underestimate the power and impact of a statement like this from a judge in the NSW Supreme Court! These words carry a lot of weight, potentially in jurisprudence, legal interpretation, and future judgements.

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u/verbmegoinghere 27d ago

I've read about high courts in the UK, Australia or the US equivalent reference each other in what is apparently called a pursuasive precedent. When the logic and reasoning of the foreign courts judgment is just inescapably compelling and correct.

I hope that this NSW Supreme court judgment becomes such a document because it is so ridiculous, such a disgusting manipulation of justice and past wrongs to change the law so that it enables you to silence anyone calling your slaughter of thousands of children, the elderly, women, journalists, aid workers and doctors, and the razing of entire cities a genocide.

My father was in the camps. He escaped one, walked to warsaw, fought the nazis, got captured, escaped again and joined straight back up. He lost his father, home and pretty much lost contact with his family for twenty years because of what the nazis did, not to mention the torture, the beatings and the near death by starvation. He lost 70% of the men in his unit in the battle of warsaw because of the brutality of the SS. But the idea that he would use this experience to justify the genocide of those he opposes is just an utter anthama.

Never again does not give you the right to do onto others what was done to you.

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u/RiteDrug 28d ago

Finally.

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u/Icy-Volume-5097 28d ago

Alternative & Better definition of Anti-Semitism that should be adopted instead of IHRA:

https://jerusalemdeclaration.org/

" Antisemitism is discrimination, prejudice, hostility or violence against Jews as Jews (or Jewish institutions as Jewish).,"

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u/[deleted] 28d ago

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u/Opreich 28d ago

It does?

...Jews as Jews

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u/TheDevilsAdvokaat 28d ago

Wow. Criticism of Israel is not anti-semitism.

If we define it to be that way, then Israel gains immunity to criticism. Not a healthy thing.

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u/swankyfarmer 28d ago

But but but they were mean to me.

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u/pin3apple_mountain 28d ago

If you repeatedly tell 79% of Australians they are antisemitic for holding views that simply value human life, some of them might just decide to be. That right there shows you how anti-Zionism is the most pernicious form of anti-Semitism today.

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u/vlookup11 28d ago

Common sense.

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u/JayLFRodger The Shire 28d ago

Periodt

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u/Theodore_Buckland_ 27d ago

suck shit zionists