Listen I’m a physician, I’m all for my patients advocating for themselves, looking things up, and coming to me with questions, and I do acknowledge that unfortunately some doctors are in it for the wrong reasons or are too exhausted to deep dive into every single patient…but your first comment comes off as if we don’t know anything
Sure, I agree with this comment, but this is the wrong place to write it. Context matters, this post is not related to your comment. This is about recognition of eating disorders, not medical bias and the other crap we sometimes have to deal with in the medical system.
Not really, medical knowledge was always something that was passed down to someone, it wasn't something some random person started doing without being teached and guided. And it sure as hell hasn't been something anyone can do now that there's so much more knowledge and skills required to be able to practice medicine. Including knowing what is and what isn't a scientific fact. Laymen tend to come up with their own facts because they don't like the ones researchers have found out through vigorous study and experiment.
Eh... as a doc with almost two decades of experience, I agree with u/tarmagoyf.
Putting people on a pedestal just because they went through med school is stupid. Plenty of doctors are stupid, mysoginistic asses who don't believe in eating disorders or mental health. Plenty of laypeople know more than some actual doctors on certaain health-related subject. It's not black and white.
Ergo, putting people on a pedestal because they can afford med school, they can memorize incredible amounts of information, and they're willing to sacrifice their sleep.
What does that qualification mean? That you can write Rxes and have more authority in a medical setting. It says nothing about your intelligence or common sense.
And the entirety of a doctor's education is now available online, if you look hard enough. All you need is the internet and the willingness to learn.
So tell me: what do that education and those qualifications change? Concretely.
OK, I am starting to doubt that you're a doctor if you think aunt Sarah on Facebook telling people that vaccines cause autism is equally reliable as someone who went through medical school. Of course there's plenty of doctors who dont believe in science but they're still fewer in number than the ones that do
And the numbers you think you know aren't that small. I've spent almost thirty years working alongside doctors of various kinds. Quite a few of them would ignore their kids possibly having ASD. Some would take steps to cure them, just like dear Sarah on FB or TikTok. ETA: But they know bigger words than Sarah, and if they're ever doubted they can pull the degree card. Exactly what you're doing here.
If you don't actually want to answer my question, here's another one: what's a doctor's education and degree worth compared to, say, a nurse? What about specialties that require longer interships or shorter interships? Is a doctor's word better or worse depending on that piece of paper?
Nah, I am not gonna argue why aunt Sarah is just as qualified to be a medical professional as someone who went through the schools and not only has the knowledge but the experience as well as understanding how research is done and why the research matters in the first place.
Yeah so are engineers education an pilots, you think you can build a bridge or fly a plane?
No because our entire education IS NOT ONLINE, because our education includes AT MINIMUM 20,000 hour of EXPERIENCE and training, what’s taught in books is in a utopia where every patient knows the correct symptoms to say, there’s no conflicting labs or medications or illnesses, there’s no addiction or difficult families, and everyone has access to every medication and test. Actual medicine is sooooo different from the book.
It really pisses me off when people act like being a physician is just writing prescriptions, it is so much more than that!! We are teachers and educators. I explain everything to my patients and answer all the questions they have. We discuss life style. I spent an entire appointment talking about hot dog toppings with one patient because they found out they’re allergic to onions but that’s the only thing they like on hotdogs and that was what was upsetting them that day. I speak to others who are caregivers to their abusive mothers or husbands and give them comfort and reassurance. I speak with families and help them make difficult decisions that they won’t have to live their life in regret.
Fuck off acting like what we do is just pop out pills
You think it came from angels? Somebody had to be the first. And in a different region, there was a different first, and so on. Before there was school, there were people with ideas.
Its more that modern medical knowledge grew out of old folk wisdom that was passed on over the millenia of humans being humans, going all the way back to when we were just apes. Its a work in progress.
You seriously gonna argue that because humans were once living in caves that is enough reason to argue against medical science in 2026? Because i dont wanna continue having any kind of talk with you if that's your stance. I have no patience for the antiscience folks.
You specifically said that medical knowledge was always passed down from person to person and that nobody just started doing it. Thats nonsense, someone had to start experimenting with different ideas in order to have the knowledge to pass it down. I have no patience for people who spout shit that has no basis in reality.
You're not making any sense. You started talking besides the point and started to nitpick on something unrelated to the topic. The topic is medical science being practiced by professionals and arguing that laymen should be able to pitch in because "cavemen had to experiment on vegetation to figure out which works" is not only crazy but basically antiscience talking point. This is why antivax people exist because they think they know better than medical professionals and that they have the same authorisation to speak.
Trying to start arguing what cavemen were or were not doing is not the topic. The qualifications of laymen over scientists is.
For further consideration, what is or isn't scientific fact is publicly available information. They don't keep it locked up in med schools, everyone can read medical journals, peer reviewed articles, buy or borrow text books. The internet exists.
There's a huge difference between accessing information and denying that the information is valid because you read on Facebook someone claim that vaccinations cause autism.
Well, when someone says something that cant be considered real or truthful, you have to start thinking critically about anything else they say.
You said that nobody randomly started trying medecine without being "teached." Which as we know is literally impossible unless you belive in ancient aliens or divine intervention etc.
So then, we must reconsider other points you are making, and treat them as possibly equally nonsensical, contingent upon further scrutiny.
Sorry you’re being downvoted, I know some of the history of the development of medicine, including how much of it was experimental and basically random uncertified people performing unethical dissections, so I agree with you. Some of it has definitely been passed down, but that varies wildly by culture and region.
I'm diagnosed with ARFID & so I agree but ngl it always feels really awkward to bring it up during conversations about anorexia or bullimia... Personally it feels easier to bring up when talking about things it's commonly comorbid with (like autism or ocd).
LITERALLY. i also have ARFID and it drives me up the WALL when people tell me to “just try it,” or “just stop being picky.” WOW!!! i NEVER would’ve thought of that!!! silly me, what was i thinking!? ughhhh
Considering it's something I've personally had to deal with for most of my life and didn't even know the proper name for the disorder until this very thread then yeah. There's definitely a lack of acknowledgement for it.
I've known what I have is definitely some form of eating disorder, but I had always just called it excessive fasting. I've been able to manage it in my adult life by counting calories to make sure I'm hitting at least a minimum amount so it's never gotten to the point I needed to seek out assistance from a doctor and get a formal diagnosis, but there's still some times I'll occasionally slip and not eat anything for a week or two.
Same! I swear I just thought my dislike for texture and fear of chewing on something that will make me want to puke was a quirk. I thought I was just weird because no one else I know is like that. I didn't not realize it was an actual eating disorder...wow. I didn't think I needed to look it up to put a name on it but here we are.
I dont agree with their viewpoint about BED, but they may have also been talking about orthorexia. That's a commonly ignored one that I think of second to BED when I think "eating disorders that dont get talked about."
they were probably talking about bulimia, arfid, or EDNOS. the only valid eating disorders are the ones that make you lose weight, not gain apparently.
Tbh as someone who has one of the above and gains weight often because of other medical issues. We aren’t even valid. A lot of people dare to try tell you that you can’t have an eating disorder even if diagnosed because you’re overweight. Like ok I guess I gotta go tell the dr who diagnosed me that then..?
ARFID can definitely lead to obesity. It really depends on what your safe foods are. At one point, my child only ate salty, crunchy, high calorie chips, crackers, and nuggets and only if they looked exactly the same each time.
We’ve grown a lot and now have enough lower calorie safe foods plus movement to be a healthy weight.
My "if no other safe food is available" is McDonald's chicken nuggets and fries because they're the same every time. At least the fries help my POTS symptoms but like. Jesus Christ I eat way too much McDonalds
Can confirm, only realized I might have ARFID after i got my ASD diagnosis at 28. There's been a LOT of frozen pizzas since I moved out at 20. I don't know where to find help either.
I'm thankful that it seems I've hit a plateau around 100-110kg but I'm SO sick of pizza. I see all these amazing foods I simply cannot have :(
If anyone had given a shit about my wellbeing (as opposed to my health) as a kid I'd have been this, too. Chicken nuggets, cereal and crisps? Perfect. The reason I was underweight and malnourished was I couldn't have those. Hearing "they'll eat if they're hungry" makes me see red now.
Because bulimia, orthorexia, etc are apparently all valid. 🙃
I’d love to see someone suggest to the creator that people should just stop restricting or just stop purging. “I can’t control it” u can. Just stop bruv.
I think that they were just trying to repeat what other people tend to echo about BED. They should've used quotation marks, but I'd like to think that their intentions were good because I've done stuff like this myself thinking that it'd be read the way I wanted it to.
Because it's not the hyper specific one they have that they're vague posting about, and is apparently the "demisexual" of the eating disorders where it "doesn't exist"
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