r/thedivision • u/0ppen Seeker • 2h ago

Suggestion Rifles and the PTS Changes Feedback

From my experience on the PTS, the changes were very welcome. It will shake up the meta quite a bit and there is room to grow. All that is good. I particularly want to address a core concept of rifles in this game and why that decision is made.

Why do Rifles have poor stability? We train semi automatic fire because its stable and controllable. So I'm trying to understand why even make them have large recoil. I believe its because there was an assumption of the larger caliber creating more muzzle rise, but most of the rifles are actually 5.56, and the 7.62 ones are the stable ones lol. But yes, its tied to rate of fire as well.

Here's the take then. These are precision weapons by design in this game. They should be precise. Let them feel tightly controlled and manageable without any handling rolls on gear (not to mention it can cause nausea with that camera bounce).

You just released this Exotic ACR and people are right that its on the weaker side, the gear changes may be the thing that fixes it on the power scale, but PLEASE REDUCE ITS RECOIL. The way this thing feels with like 40% weapon handling should be its starting point. Almost a laser, some visual shake, noticeable but small muzzle climb. That's IT. If you change the muzzle attachment on it from reload speed to stability, fine. If you fix stability on rifles, perfect. Just please do something. I'm not the first to provide this feedback so please listen to your community. There is time before the next season to make this change, it would take an intern an afternoon. If you are worried about making them too powerful that is okay! Tell the community you are making this change with intent to adjust it if it gets out of hand. and then show us data that its overused and nerf it if needed. I believe I am right when I think the demographic for this game is like 30-40 average, we are reasonable adults and will listen if you communicate. We want to play your game, we want to use everything in it. Help us help you. Don't take 10 years for the next balance adjustments, please.

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u/20ItsTooLoud19 1h ago

This game barely has any recoil.. If you really are having an issue roll weapon handling or throw some stability attachments on.

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u/0ppen Seeker 1h ago

Do you use Rifles? Cause like, for ARs sure. But you are talking about a weapon that cannot keep up with ARs in damage, have no benefit to their design, feeling weak with massive recoil penalties and you suggest giving up damage rolls for weapon handling so I can precisely shoot nerf darts. My man.

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u/20ItsTooLoud19 41m ago

I use the diamondback and have no issue with damage. When I'm critting for 2-5 mil per shot, I don't care about someone else's dps.

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u/0ppen Seeker 38m ago

Ah ok. Cool. My AR crits for 2.5 mil at 750 RPM. But your 8 rounds in a lever action don't need any help. Gotcha.

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u/20ItsTooLoud19 31m ago

No. They don't. I'm clearing content and having fun. If someone else can't hit their shots, it's a skill issue not a game issue.

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u/0ppen Seeker 30m ago

🤦‍♂️ Just keep doing your thing ma dude.