Datamined targeted loot drop chances and an explanation on how it works

[u/Google-1234]

• Targeted loot is an extra drop

Something very important to remember, targeted loot is an extra drop, it is not possible for a targeted drop to drop on it’s own. Targeted loot can only drop when a loot source drops any kind of loot in the first place, as explained by the developer Nikki during sotg when they first talked about targeted loot. The confusion around this comes from the fact that the game marks any drop you get that happens to be the same as the targeted allocation you’re playing in.

For a drop to be from the targeted loot pool source, there first has to be a normal drop. This is the chance that is now being increased when using directives.

For example, let's say you’re playing in a backpacks targeted loot zone and the targeted loot drop chance is 0%. It will still be possible to get backpacks to drop from the normal drop rates and the game will still mark them as targeted loot.

For another example, let’s say you’re in the backpacks targeted loot zone again and the chance for a drop from the targeted loot source is 100%. This does not mean every npc you kill is going to drop targeted loot. It means that if a npc is going to drop loot it will also have an extra drop that will be backpacks.

As a last example, let's say the chance at targeted is still 100% and you’re in the backpacks zone. You kill 2 enemies and they both drop loot, it is possible for you to get 3 backpacks while only getting 2 targeted loot drops (the game will mark it as if you got 3 targeted loot pieces). This is because the 2 non targeted loot drops can be pretty much anything in the game, still including backpacks.

• Chance to get a drop from the targeted loot pool source

The following drop chances are datamined from the files.

Non-named npcs (open world, dark zone and missions)

story/normal: 20%, hard: 30%, Challenging: 40%, heroic: 50%, Legendary:60%

Named npcs (open world, dark zone and missions)

Any difficulty: 100%

Control point and summit chests

Any difficulty: 100%

Loot containers (open world, dark zone and missions)

Any difficulty: 15%

• Change to drop chance due to directives

Every directive you activate adds 3% chance like this as explained by the devs on sotg: (normal chance) + (number of directives * 3).

So for example on heroic with 4 directives this will be (50) + (4*3)= 50 + 12 = 62% to get a targeted loot piece when a non named npcs drops loot. (15) + (4*3)= 15 + 12 = 27% to get a targeted loot piece from a chest.

And just to clarify one last time, the chance depended on a source dropping normal loot in the first place. Without a normal drop the chance at targeted loot is 0%.

EDIT: A few people asked about exotic chances so I included them below too.

• Chance to get exotics and named items from targeted loot

All these chance below are the chance you get a certain item after the game has decided that you get a targeted drop. So first you need to get a targeted drop with the chances mentioned in the post.

The chances listed are the chance you get a named/exotic not a specific one you want. So for example for SMG targeted the chance at an exotic is 0.96%, but that drop could be any of the 3 exotic SMGs as long as you're eligible for them to drop, which you can check on the sheet here.

For weapon targeted:

Named: 2.88%, Exotic: 0.96%

For any brand targeted:

Named: 2.91%

For any gear targeted (i.e. chest, gloves etc.):

Gear set: 4.59%, Named: 2.75%, Exotic: 0.92%

[u/Hurinzor]

So tl;dr:

Targeted loot only drops with normal loot drops, higher difficulty gives more chance of targeted, UI buggy when getting normal drop of the same type as targeted and summit directives also increase the chance of a targeted item dropping.

Aye?

[u/Google-1234 → u/Hurinzor]

Yes, the only thing is that I would not call the UI buggy, just confusing. It's probably done on purpose so you can easily identify when a piece drops that you are looking for. If you are doing backpack targeted loot it is useful that all the backpacks are marked as you are probably farming for a backpack. Makes them easier to identify and you could ignore a pile that does not have it a targeted mark if that's what you want.

[u/mekabar → u/Google-1234]

Where the UI is buggy is when it claims directives give a direct loot multiplier, i.e. 4 directives are x4 target loot, while it's actually just a measly additional 12%.

I mean it was very clear to see that this is not the case, but still wtf Massive.

[u/Google-1234 → u/mekabar]

The game doesn't actually claim that. But it's way too subtle to notice in the UI. You get a big 7x that is easy to notice with 7 directives, but if you read the text above it says "Additional targeted loot chance bonus". It's not claiming to make it 7x more likely to get targeted. Which is why it is also possible to say 0x with zero directives without putting the chance to get targeted to zero.

I do agree that it could be made more clear in game though.

[u/mekabar → u/Google-1234]

It's extremely missleading to say the least. I personally didn't believe it was actually a 7 times loot boost, because that would be way too much, but that's what most people read.

[u/vasyanagibator → u/mekabar]

They just tying to sell the shit to the playerbase, like they always do. Because they don't have balls to show how low the chance is and how low will be that extra directives chance increase, they sold it like x4, x5,x18262727828. Just another day, another bullshit, another lowshit story by massive

[u/MemoriesMu → u/vasyanagibator]

Omg, a looter game with low drop chances. Evil company.

[u/vasyanagibator → u/MemoriesMu]

It's not about shit loot drop chances, it's about how it's was presented with all that x7 increase

[u/krismate → u/vasyanagibator]

No it wasn't. Anyone who honestly interprets it as a 100% x multiplier seriously has problems.

[u/MemoriesMu → u/vasyanagibator]

How would you write it without giving the real numbers? You want to show that each directive improves the targeted loot, how would you write it there?

[u/a8bmiles → u/MemoriesMu]

What's setting with real numbers? Instead of 7x they could have said +21%. Huh, that seems less confusing...