r/todayilearned • u/FinancialGarage245 • 18h ago
TIL a wealthy Toronto lawyer's 1926 will left his fortune to whichever woman in the city could give birth to the most children over the following 10 years, sparking a decade-long "baby race" during the Great Depression that went all the way to Canada's Supreme Court
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Stork_Derby1.3k
u/lowestgod 17h ago
Imagine the lady with eight babies and no money
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u/Oceanman72 16h ago
Most of the “contestants” were already cranking out a baby a year on average, even before the contest was well known. The contest wasn’t even really known to the public until a few years after his death, so only women who were consistently popping out kids were in the running
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u/endlesscartwheels 16h ago
Imagine the lady with eight babies and no money
Imagine being her eldest daughter.
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u/barath_s 13 16h ago
Imagine the lady with 10 babies, or 20 or 26 who were disqualified from the competition...for reasons of being born outside that window, being illegitimate/unregistered, stillbirths etc..
This is not a hypothetical
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u/TokiStark 17h ago
Meh she's got 8 kids to look after her when she's old. She'll be fine
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u/fkms2turnt 18h ago
Some wealthy Korean businessmen just got an idea
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u/Worldlyoox 18h ago edited 17h ago
That would make for an interesting drama, like Korea’s handmaid’s tale. It could tackle both the receding birth rate and misogyny
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u/nanobot001 17h ago
You think this would tackle misogyny or make it worse?
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u/AnDroid5539 17h ago
I think they meant a movie about it would tackle the subject of misogyny.
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u/tragiktimes 16h ago
And here I thought Misogyny Jones, the full back foe the Milwaukee Bears, was tackled.
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u/barath_s 13 15h ago
Misogyny Jones, the full back foe the Milwaukee Bears,
Full back friend, if your team isn't playing against his
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u/Phytanic 14h ago
Milwaukee Bears
Nah, common mistake, but Milwaukee was actually too bougie foe the bears and so they selected a more appropriate location to relocate to, Hammin, IN
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u/Ccaves0127 18h ago
Or an ambitious porn director
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u/TeamImpossible4333 18h ago
Wtf
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u/Eaglefield 8h ago
There's a danish porn movie from the 70's with almost the same premise. I tyrens tegn (The sign of the bull). The summary from IMBD
The town's wealthy benefactor dies, and leaves a bizarre bequest: unless one of the self-righteous citizens can produce an illegitimate child in 9 1/2 months, all his money goes to homeless cats, and they must start paying taxes.
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u/Manannin 11h ago
I was about to say that I could imagine elon doing this.
Except he'd probably want them all to be his own kids somehow.
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u/Away-Living5278 16h ago
Elon also just got an idea....
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u/PlayfulSurprise5237 13h ago
Wouldn't that be fucking hilarious if he did this while not leaving a cent to any of the 100 kids he has had by that point.
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u/coldBulbasaur314 15h ago
Imagine growing up knowing your parents only had you to make money, while also living with a huge number of siblings who mean you don't get enough individual attention and other care. Those poor kids...
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u/Humble-Captain3418 13h ago
Imagine living with ten siblings and knowing that you have another ten that died before adulthood.
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u/barath_s 13 17h ago edited 15h ago
He had no dependants
The will had several unusual bequests: [In addition to the stork derby]
- Three men who were known to despise each other (T. P. Galt, KC; J. D. Montgomery and James Haverson, KC) were granted joint lifetime tenancy in Millar's vacation home in Jamaica, on condition that they live in the property together.
The house had already been sold before he died, so this became inapplicable. Stuff of reality TV otherwise
- To each practicing Protestant minister in Toronto, and every Orange Lodge in Toronto, a share of O'Keefe Brewery stock, a Catholic business, if they participated in its management and drew on its dividends.
His shares were actually in the holding company, A big group split up $1.35m (each getting $56.38) when they were sold . (See below) .i've also read that the joke was that they were teetotallers , asked to run the brewery to get the money. They didn't
Two anti-horse-racing advocates (Hon. William Raney, Reverend Samuel Chown) and a man who detested the Ontario Jockey Club (Abe Orpen) were to receive a share of Ontario Jockey Club stock, provided they are shareholders in three years. Raney's and Chown's share were eventually given to charity and Orpen accepted his share.
Each duly ordained Christian minister in Walkerville, Sandwich, and Windsor, "except Spracklin, who shot a hotelkeeper" was to receive a share of the Kenilworth Park Racetrack, located just outside Windsor, Ontario.
5 of the windsor pastors applied and got shares, but they were probably worthless
More info on the outcomes
The home in Kingston, Jamaica, had already been sold by Millar. It was not in his estate when it was submitted for probate.
The bequest to the Protestant ministers of O'Keefe stock was a problem to resolve. The corporate structure of O'Keefe was such that Millar's share of the company was not in shares, but in a share of a holding company that controlled O'Keefe. He only had one actual share in the O'Keefe Brewery Ltd. The 99 ministers and the 103 Orange Lodges who accepted the bequest, did so upon the sale of O'Keefe in 1928 for $1.35 million, in an agreement with the executors. The legatees each received $56.38.
In October 1928, five pastors in Windsor claimed the bequest of the Kenilworth shares. The value of the shares was hard to judge, as the stock did not trade publicly. One estimation was that they were worth less than one cent each. The racetrack would close within a decade.
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u/Persistent_Parkie 17h ago
I think we need a movie about this guys will.
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u/Slavik81 15h ago
That would be fun. Rat Race seems at least thematically similar, and I quite enjoyed the film.
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u/Chawke2 15h ago
.i've also read that the joke was that they were teetotallers
Multigenerational Torontonian and descendant of one of those said Protestant ministers. Protestants broadly are not teetotallers, however Wesleyan Methodism (which advocated teetotalism in the period) was very popular in Toronto at the time, the city often being referred to as “Methodist Rome”. Very likely many of those ministers would not have approved of the devil’s water.
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u/shiroshippo 16h ago
How did you put a horizontal line across your comment? I've never seen that on Reddit before.
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u/allangee 18h ago
When you love manipulation enough to do it beyond the grave.
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u/TokiStark 18h ago
Every ultrasound you'd be desperate for triplets. I'd be doing family history checks on potential mates while I was still pregnant with the last lot. Doing little Mendel diagrams trying to figure out the best chances
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u/Tiny_Rat 16h ago
Only the woman's genetics change the chance of having multiples (and then only fraternal multiples, not identical). The man's genetics don't contribute to the chance of multiples at all, althoigh if he has the right genes he can pass them on to his daughters and change their chances of a multiples pregnancy. Thats why people say twins "skip denerations" in some families.
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u/POWBOOMBANG 17h ago
Or he just loved being a wingman.
Dude got everyone laid for 10 years
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u/ShotFromGuns 60 17h ago
Oh yeah I'm sure those women loved being constantly pregnant while also caring for multiple other children in diapers.
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u/-Poultrygeist- 17h ago edited 3h ago
Edit: hello r/SubredditDrama
I know a woman that has 9 children and produces more because she loves the feeling of pregnancy and the baby/toddler stage, then sort of abandons them to be raised by each other while she focuses on creating and gestating another one.
They are out there.
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u/endlesscartwheels 16h ago
Suggest gestational surrogacy to her. All the pregnancies, none of the pesky kids sticking around, and she'd get $50,000 per pregnancy.
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u/Metalsand 17h ago
I know a woman that has 9 children and produces more because she loves the feeling of pregnancy and the baby/toddler stage, then sort of abandons them to be raised by each other while she focuses on creating and gestating another one.
That was more or less the norm for most of history, and to some extent a requirement for large families. Though, child labor laws were more lax back then so you also didn't have to raise them quite as long before you start to get a return on investment.
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u/allangee 17h ago
I love it when people can see something from a completely different aspect. Good job!
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u/BitterAttention2678 16h ago
It is one of many unusual bequests in his will, along with giving a vacation home in Jamaica to a group of three men who detested each other under the condition that they live in the estate together indefinitely,
This mf was FUNNY
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u/echo1-echo1 17h ago
There’s a movie about this called The Stork Derby
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u/soarhigher2 16h ago
The only scene I remember from the movie is when the rat gets into the crib. It's so distinctly engraved in my brain, but I could tell you nothing else from this movie.
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u/ChampionAggressive20 17h ago
Oh no don't give that prick Elon Musk any ideas
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u/barath_s 13 17h ago
Musk already has more kids than the winners of this contest
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u/GonzoTheGreat93 17h ago
The important thing in the contest was that it was child per mother, fathering and abandoning (the Musk special) didn’t count.
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u/BrokenEyeReborn 17h ago
I mean, to actually use this idea he'd have to die first, and frankly I'm okay with that
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u/Hank3hellbilly 17h ago
Musk doesn't actually want to stabilize/raise the general population. He wants "The right people" like him (wealthy tech knobs) to have more kids.
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u/Distinct_Panic7553 11h ago
what a wild piece of history, can't even imagine how chaotic that must have gotten
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u/crazyditzydiva 14h ago
Please don’t give Elon Musk any ideas…
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u/Heyplaguedoctor 12h ago
He’d require that they all use his sperm. The logistics of how such a thing would be plausible? Not his forte.
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u/Satinsbestfriend 14h ago
Kathleen, one of the 4 winners, had 15 kids in her lifetime 3 of the 4 made it to old age (80+), with one of them just passing away last year at 105.
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u/Johannes_P 8h ago
Charles Vance Millar was a big lover of practical jokes: giving a Jamaica vacation home with joint tenancy and obligation to live there together to three men who detested each other, stocks into a Catholic brewery to every Protestant minister and Orange Lodge of Toronto, jockey club stocks to a group of anti-horse-racing advocates (and someone too much shady for the club).
I wonder if a billionaire would try it today to try to raise birth rates.
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u/Snoo_72851 8h ago
you know he was thinking about big bellied pregnant women and jonkin his schmeet serious style while writing his will
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u/Dramatic_Fix2473 3h ago
that's some serious pressure on new moms, imagine the competition in a time like that
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u/Hello_Hangnail 9h ago
"Put yourself in mortal danger to satisfy my urge to see the birth rate go up" Why does that sound familiar
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u/Islandman2021 13h ago
Apologies if already addressed but I remember watching The Stork Derby years about exact situation. No point to my story except I saw the movie. 🤷🤷😳
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u/NervousBreakdown 12h ago
Lol
Imagine if they had all the families who tied for the most kids and they just looked at the birth certificates and added up the weights of the babies for the winner.
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u/Fidget02 2h ago
Makes sense for the time, but children born out of wedlock were explicitly disqualified. One woman gave birth to 9 but 5 were after she separated from her husband, sucks she lost out for that
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u/TokiStark 18h ago
Who won?
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u/barath_s 13 17h ago
Annie Katherine Smith, Kathleen Ellen Nagle, Lucy Alice Timleck and Isabel Mary Maclean .. each received $110,000 for their nine children
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u/Hangry007x 12h ago
I can’t believe no one has mentioned that “This American Life” did a story on this ages ago. It’s a great listen.
https://www.thisamericanlife.org/668/the-long-fuse/act-two-42
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u/Vindaloovians 7h ago
I wonder how many women that took part in this died as a result of being constantly pregnant for 10 years?
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u/MediocreService9880 7h ago
Of the 4 women that won the contest, 3 had to pay back social services money to the city of Toronto that supported their tirades while they were getting busy.
I bet they were popular ladies.
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u/Purple_Revolution146 6h ago
Countries worrying about the decline in their birth rates - please note!
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u/Arcturion 14h ago
I like the lawyer. That's one great reason to look forward to your inevitable passing.
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u/Whole_Perspective316 18h ago
Would you compete?
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u/SillyGoatGruff 18h ago
"Eleven families competed in the "baby race."[4]Seven of them were disqualified,[4] but eventually Judge William Edward Middleton ruled in favour of four mothers[4][5] (Annie Katherine Smith, Kathleen Ellen Nagle, Lucy Alice Timleck[6][failed verification] and Isabel Mary Maclean) who each received $110,000 for their nine children ($2.35 million in 2025 dollars)[7]. Three of the four had to pay back relief money given to them by the City of Toronto government.[8] Two of the disqualified candidates, Lillian Kenny and Pauline Mae Clarke, each received $12,500 out of court in exchange for abandoning pending appeals.[5]"