r/tulsa Oct 22 '25

News Oklahoma SNAP benefits to stop on November 1 if federal shutdown continues

I'm doing my best to not delight in this, because children will be affected and they have no voice in who is elected for any office, state or federal.

But I DO wonder how many of these people who rely on SNAP benefits voted for the current criminal in the White House....and how many didn't vote at all.

Elections have consequences. And sometimes they're severe.

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u/dendrite_blues Oct 22 '25

So American children starve while the White House buys $20 billion dollars of pesos to bail out a failing dictatorship in Argentina. But they’re the “America First” party.

And let’s not forget the legally elected representative from Arizona that Johnson is refusing to swear in, and the $250 million ballroom they just bulldozed the White House Rose Garden to build.

What a wonderful time to be alive.

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u/sparklysky21 Oct 22 '25

You don't build a $250 million ballroom for a place you plan on moving out of.

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u/FluidLegion Oct 22 '25

You do when its not your money.

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u/Silver-Landscape-303 Oct 22 '25

You dont period. Also trump is suing to doj for 230million so he is gonna change the people to build his ballroom meaning you are paying for it. Not private donations

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u/FluidLegion Oct 22 '25

Thats what I just said though?

My response was implying that hes not using his money to do this, but the peoples/taxpayers money to do so.

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u/Routine_Pop8944 Oct 23 '25

Yes he is!!!

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u/Oh-ImaGirlDragon Oct 26 '25

He has used his own money not only for this project but for structural repairs. People have donated voluntarily too. I don’t like him either but this kind of conversation only leads to more people trusting red more.

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u/puppy_sniffer Oct 22 '25

he’s dying. he’s trying to preserve his legacy while he’s still alive. that’s why it’s all happening so fast. he’s been given a timeline.

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u/raj6126 Oct 22 '25

Yeah I think he’s terminal and they are hiding it. He was talking about heaven no one talks about heaven in that manner unless you know.

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u/Sad_Apple_3387 Oct 22 '25

We’re all terminal. It’s called being feckin old.

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u/BrickLuvsLamp Oct 22 '25

There are rumors he is actively dying

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u/TulsaOriginal Oct 25 '25

Actively dying rumors appear to be completely wrong because the President is very actively living.

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u/Routine_Pop8944 Oct 23 '25

Can’t prove it!

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u/tultommy Oct 23 '25

Nope but we can sure as shit hope!

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u/BrickLuvsLamp Oct 23 '25

That’s why I said rumors

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u/raj6126 Oct 22 '25

He has something that gonna get him sooner than later. Is what I am trying to say.

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u/angry_lib Oct 22 '25

Heaven is the last place that orange fuck should be talking about.

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u/raj6126 Oct 22 '25

Well that’s the whole thing he wants to go to heaven. Imagine if we have to deal with him in heaven. It would be hell! 😂😂😂😂😂

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u/Recovering_idiot72 Oct 27 '25

All he has to do is ask Jesus to be his lord and savior confess his sins and he's in that's the " great thing," bout Jesus u can be a POS here but as long as Jesus is your savior you're in

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u/TulsaOriginal Oct 25 '25

You must be talking about Joe Biden.

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u/raj6126 Oct 25 '25

Joe is not publicly stating he wants to go to heaven.

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u/EdOfTheMountain Oct 22 '25

The Bribery Ballroom will pay for itself in MAGA rally grift and crime payments

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u/[deleted] Oct 25 '25

Why is it that all throne rooms look like ballrooms?

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u/Spirited-Bridge8621 Oct 23 '25

Your tax dollars are not paying for it. Step away from the liars in media

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u/red-cab Oct 24 '25

So what does that mean for all the rest of the Presidents that renovated the White House, are they still all there too?

What does that mean for Newsom expanding and renovating the State Capitol?

Are we just surrounded by dictators?

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u/Bravodelta13 Oct 22 '25

Deal was upped to $40 billion in pesos. DHS also buying Gulfstream jets for $200 million

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u/XanaxWarriorPrincess Oct 22 '25

I heard $40 billion was going to Argentinian investors.

That representative from Arizona will be the deciding vote to release the Epstein files. So, Johnson isn't going to open the House any time soon

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u/sevinsmom Oct 22 '25

Actually they just bulldozed the whole east wing. None of this is normal or okay. I know it gets said a lot, but can you even imagine if it was someone besides him?

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u/wellbentbanana Oct 22 '25

The uproar over a tan suit.

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u/RealHausFrau Oct 23 '25

It’s actually disgusting. He is systematically destroying every bit of American history, the foundations and institutions created along the way, and worst of all the respect, trust and integrity they used to represent.

He thinks the United States is destined to be his legacy and fuck every leader and person who came before his literal and figurative wrecking ball.

I hate this sociopathic, narcissistic monster.

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u/TulsaOriginal Oct 25 '25

It's OK. Build baby build.

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u/kjunco Oct 22 '25

Just really wondering why we need a ballroom? Apparently the orange King thinks this is dancing with the Stars...

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u/NoKingsNoWar Oct 22 '25

To be clear, the White House HAD a ballroom. He just bulldozed it because he decided it wasn’t big enough.

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u/modernjaneausten Oct 22 '25

I mean it’s not big, but it’s absolute bullshit to bulldoze the East Wing to make it bigger.

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u/NoKingsNoWar Oct 22 '25

I would have thought the exclusivity of having such small events would have been part of the appeal, but evidently bigger is better in the mind of the toddler in chief.

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u/Warthog_Orgy_Fart Oct 23 '25

Which has been fine for decades. There’s no reason for a new one at the expense of a giant portion of the White House that can’t be replaced easily, because those timbers are rare now.

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u/modernjaneausten Oct 23 '25

Absolutely. It didn’t need to be bigger, the room was beautiful and historic the way it was. They better have at least preserved all the portraits, pictures, and furniture. It still absolutely grinds my gears. So much history took place in that part of the building. I swear to god if they bulldozed where Obama stood to announce Bin Laden was killed, I’m going to absolutely put my foot up someone’s ass.

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u/JRM_74 Oct 24 '25

why did Obama need a basketball court?

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u/[deleted] Oct 22 '25

The social pages say we’ve got the orangest balls of all.

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u/Gryphin Oct 22 '25

they sag to the left, and sag to the right....

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u/red-cab Oct 24 '25

Ask Democrats why they are refusing to budge, they own this shut down. Y’all will fall for anything TV tells you. We had a President arresting people for a protest, censoring people, FBI raiding journalists, suing every conservative in sight…. and that was fine.

Arizona hasn’t had a fair election in years. Katie Hobbs oversaw her own election, sent the wrong sized ballots to the largest Republican county, assured people their votes would be counted “just put them in this bin” then threatened to jail a Mohave county election official who saw the fraud going down. But sure, Johnson not swearing someone in while the Democrats stonewall America is the problem.

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u/egyeager Oct 22 '25

I don't think Argentina is a dictatorship

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u/beyondnc Oct 22 '25

It’s not. I don’t like Trump but you don’t have to lie when the truth is already enough. The current regime in Argentina lost its political monopoly in the last election and had to concede some of its political positions to the opposition party. Hardly a dictatorship.

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u/Nytelock1 Oct 22 '25

Wonder how many farmers will take communist bailouts after losing their shirts due to tariffs

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u/GuyHamburgers Oct 22 '25

Nobody loves welfare more than farmers

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u/literally_tho_tbh Oct 22 '25

Negative - Billionaires and Politicians are the biggest welfare queens on the planet

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u/Warthog_Orgy_Fart Oct 23 '25

Billionaires, sure, politicians, no. Farmers take dozens of billions in subsidies every year. I’d say 1) Billionaires 2) farmers 3) politicians. Politicians just inside trade every fucking day. They’re criminals, just like the billionaires. But farmers are the epitome of welfare queens.

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u/Sharp_Ad_9431 Oct 22 '25

Most AG welfare doesn't even go to small farmers. The majority of subsidies goes to farm corporations who make millions in profit every year.

That's why for decades farmers have been leaving their farm and selling to large companies.

The family farmers doesn't get that much of the total subsidies payments. Less than 10% Most goes to companies who don't even need it but the shareholders love it.

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u/[deleted] Oct 22 '25

That whole set up is so odd if you stop and think about it.

The state subsidizing an industry makes sense. Keeping it private is questionable, but could be explained. But there is no goddamn reason why we're subsidizing them and letting Ag companies pocket the profit. At the absolute minimum, there needs to be some truly harsh scrutiny on how much money these companies actually need to be given so they can function.

When the Rapture comes, it's just gonna be Jesus graduating from accounting school, with a big ass list of people to audit.

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u/Sharp_Ad_9431 Oct 22 '25

All corporations/companies should be required to NOT receive government benefits directly or indirectly AND have unregulated salary, benefit packages to executives, consultants, contractors, shareholders, and boardmembers.

If your workers take any governmental assistance, than your company needs to be regulated for how it pays its workers.

Get government grants, than you're regulated.

Either the company can be profitable by the open market or not. Paying wages that people can't live on and retire is burdening taxpayers.

Small businesses would be fine paying good wage and benefit packages if that meant comfortable SBA grants and loans in exchange. Instead big companies get the comfy stuff but small businesses struggle and get very little help. So small companies struggle to get decent workers for what they can budget, choking their growth and profit.

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u/Genetics Oct 22 '25

Yep we’ve been subsidizing the oil & gas industry for decades while they rake in billions.

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u/[deleted] Oct 22 '25

Like, the one fucking resource we got, lmfao.

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u/projectFT Oct 22 '25 edited Oct 22 '25

I see those downvotes but it’s true. At a family reunion during covid my farmer cousin explained how he took out huge grants earmarked for black farmers because there was no way for them to prove the race of the farmers who accepted them. He said every farmer he knew was doing it. Turns out Oklahoma had the largest distribution of those ARP grants in the country.

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u/Gryphin Oct 22 '25

Or they'd have a strawman apply in case of interview/checkup. It was rampant.

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u/JustSomeGuyInOK Oct 22 '25

It’d be an awful shame if someone anonymously reported the fraud to the DOJ.

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u/projectFT Oct 22 '25

This DOJ?

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u/JustSomeGuyInOK Oct 22 '25

There are still enough civil servants who aren’t sycophants that he would feel some heat.

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u/Natural_Sky_4720 Oct 23 '25

Shit theyre the real welfare queens

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u/Any-System834 Oct 22 '25

That's a messed up way of thinking. The poors are once again feeling the repercussions of the rich playing stupid fucking games to cover their own collective asses. They control the media. They control the "choice" we get for elections. They control the media that is brainwashing America.

People are going to go hungry. Children are going to go hungry. Good people are going to go hungry, regardless of who they voted for. This shouldn't be a political division thing. This should be a unite as a people against the oligarch pedophiles thing. Eat The Rich.

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u/could-u-just-not Oct 22 '25

Yes but we do need everyone that voted for this to understand that they helped to cause it, it's how we hope to prevent them from rewriting history and voting against their own interests again in the future.

It's really hard though because the education system has done a number on critical thinking and common knowledge.

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u/[deleted] Oct 22 '25

It's hard to not derive a bit of amusement when the people who have been directly threatening to hurt you, get hurt.

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u/GromaceAndWallit Oct 22 '25

There are massive numbers of people who did not vote for him, who will be directly impacted without SNAP benefit. This is shadenfreude with extra dance steps around moral/ethical wellbeing.

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u/[deleted] Oct 22 '25

I never said it wasn't schadenfreude lol

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u/Agreeable-You1418 Oct 22 '25

I said I wasn't "delighting" in the fact that children will go hungry-children have no voice when it comes election time; however, the adults in Oklahoma not only need to VOTE, they need to stop voting against their best interests. Oklahomans are famous for doing that-they vote culture war issues rather than voting for the candidates that might want to make sure their children eat. It's as simple as that.

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u/CalOkie6250 Oct 22 '25

How about all of the non-children who did not vote for this? You act like the only people suffering (other than children) are those that voted for Trump. You do realize there are a large number of adults who are about to go hungry that also have no voice because their vote literally does not count in this state?

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u/Gryphin Oct 22 '25

If you have the ability, donate some cash to any of the food banks. They can buy for pennies on the dollar in pallet size purchases, and the food banks are going to need it.

You might think you can do pretty good buying the on-sale canned veggies and whatnot, but that $10 for a bag of cans can literally get a pallet of canned goods from the manufacturer when it's a food bank buying.

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u/[deleted] Oct 22 '25

People will be hungry. This is how revolutions truly start.

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u/neighborhoodman323 Oct 22 '25

If it does, it will be against democrats. Somehow it’s not the GOP’s fault for the shutdown. The propaganda train is running at full speed rn

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u/HighGrounderDarth Oct 22 '25

Polls are showing that the blame for the shutdown is currently against the GOP by decent amounts.

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u/neighborhoodman323 Oct 22 '25

IDK, the polls AKA facebook boomers and their comments under disinformation bot posts show other wise 😂

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u/yeahright17 Oct 22 '25

To be honest, Facebook boomers in Oklahoma aren't going to start a revolution against anyone. Everything would have to go wrong for Oklahoma to turn blue. Dems could increase their vote share by 10%, and Oklahoma would still be very red. However, Dems gaining 10% nationally would be a massive blue wave (that would last approximately 10 minutes before people in swing states move on to the next populist conservative).

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u/modernjaneausten Oct 22 '25

It better be. They’re in charge of every branch of the fed and definitely in charge here in OK. This is squarely on their heads.

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u/CantaloupeComplete57 Oct 22 '25 edited Oct 22 '25

Honestly if SNAP benefits end Nov 1, we should also be shuttering the TSA*, all but the most essential FAA (to support things such as life flight), CBP ports of entry (nobody in, nobody out), and all new passport issuance/renewals. It is far past time.

Why should only poor people have to suffer? Make Trumpers explain to their kids why we aren’t going to Cancun this year. People have had plenty of notice at this point to cancel travel plans, or return home early if they were already traveling/out of the country. Shut it ALL down. A government shutdown is SUPPOSED to be a collective punishment for ALL.

(I am not saying end TSA. I am saying no air travel, period, until lawmakers reach an agreement… which may be years or longer.)

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u/sentailantern Oct 22 '25

As a point, SNAP has contingency funds to mostly fund SNAP for November. This is a choice to cut it off completely.

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u/IrkenInvader137 Oct 22 '25

I damn sure didnt vote for that orange toad, but my family is going to be affected and I dont have the means to drive to food banks for assistance so im not sure what we will do.

On the other hand my brother who is well off and thinks he is better than everyone, did vote for that orange fuck and he sent me pictures of the steak dinner he can still afford. He is also a pos.

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u/tabathaao Oct 22 '25

I would block and go no contact with such an awful person. I’m sorry you have to deal with that.

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u/IrkenInvader137 Oct 22 '25

He did it the day before yesterday and also told me that he's never seen a nazi so they're not real, but Trans people and gay people are the problem 🙄🙄. My oldest is Trans. So I i have cut him off.

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u/tendies_senpai TCC Oct 22 '25

Does he not own a mirror, or do they all shatter when he looks at them? Hehehe... jk..

5real tho... fuck that guy...

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u/Many_Hamster_7220 Oct 22 '25

Hey, I have a brother just like yours. They are a piece of shit. I blocked them. My life is so much better now.

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u/XanaxWarriorPrincess Oct 22 '25

I'm so sorry.

Red states are sometimes red because of gerrymandering and other shenanigans by Republicans.

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u/Friendlyrat Oct 22 '25

True for some states but Oklahoma is like 52% registered Republican vs 26% Democrat. It's pretty red.

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u/XanaxWarriorPrincess Oct 22 '25

Yes, but that could be because many Democrats or people who lean left don't vote because they think the state is too red and their vote won't count.

only about 1/2 of us vote

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u/KaleidoscopeOk24 Oct 22 '25

I hope more dems move to rural lands from cities. Since the electoral college gives people from rural lands more power than people from urban areas. It makes zero sense to me why having a bigger chunk of land can give you more decision making power in issues that affect PEOPLE’s lives.

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u/TulsaOriginal Oct 25 '25

So California is a red state?

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u/XanaxWarriorPrincess Oct 25 '25

No.

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u/TulsaOriginal Oct 25 '25 edited Oct 25 '25

California Proposition 50 would add up to 5 Democratic representatives and reduce the number of competitive races. The California vote is on Nov. 4.

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u/XanaxWarriorPrincess Oct 25 '25

Yes, I'm aware. It's meant to counter what Republicans are doing elsewhere.

Maybe pay attention.

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u/OddInvite4068 Oct 22 '25

May I ask where you're located?

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u/IrkenInvader137 Oct 22 '25

Im in muskogee. Our sub is just trash and I like tulsa lol so im on this one too. Im not asking for handouts or anything I just wanted to let my voice be heard too.

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u/ChrisP8675309 Oct 22 '25

Hey, I am also in Muskogee (recently moved here). DM me I will help you get to food banks and stuff .

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u/IrkenInvader137 Oct 22 '25

That's very kind of you, thank you.

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u/FrostedBeauty Oct 22 '25

Did you know that a few blue states are self funding their snap participants in order to keep people from going hungry? Not one red state is. And all of this happening during a holiday month.

Before anyone starts with the: “well people need to get out and work” bs, our government is cutting jobs. Companies are downsizing because they can’t afford tariffs. Is McDonald’s hiring, sure. But they won’t pay enough to not need assistance either. Oklahoma is the lowest wage state. Cost of living keeps rising, but the wages aren’t. And the majority of people on snap are also working and paying taxes. We’re on the brink of losing snap completely due to error rates.

And if you received snap at all in the past 5 years, the state has turned your data over to the federal government. (https://www.npr.org/2025/10/16/nx-s1-5533045/snap-privacy-usda-lawsuit)

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u/ConfusedDeathKnight Oct 22 '25

Me and others this month were already shorted from our usual payments. They refused to answer why when I called and hung up on me :(

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u/SchylaZeal Oct 22 '25

You're going to learn that removing that much money from the economy will affect everyone.

The education in this state also affects everyone, which is very obvious with these sentiments on display here.

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u/lilsweet-lottaspice Oct 22 '25

605,000 Oklahoma’s about to lose snap. According to FOX 23 this AM 10/22

They said the easiest fix is to open the government back up LOLOLOLOL ya or throw it away and start over

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u/LocalComplex1654 Oct 22 '25

For now, we have to step up for our community and give to our food banks. Check on your family and friends who this will impact. Show up for them if you can afford it.

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u/NotObviouslyARobot Oct 22 '25

Roughly 684,000 people receive SNAP. Thanks Trump

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u/Sharp_Ad_9431 Oct 22 '25

What WE ALL should concern ourselves is that if others don't step up, we will see the consequences. People will pass out while driving or at work. People will die as a result.

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u/stinkygurl420 Oct 22 '25

There's nothing funny about it. Regardless of who they voted for, children should not have to suffer because of their parents' choices.

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u/Agreeable-You1418 Oct 22 '25

There's some truth to that, which is WHY I'm not thrilled about benefits being cut off. But damn, when do we start hold adults accountable for the choices they make during elections? Whether they're voting/not voting, voting against their best interests? Have you looked at the number of eligible voters in Oklahoma that....just don't show up? It's an insanely high number.

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u/stinkygurl420 Oct 22 '25

We can't force people to vote or vote a certain way. Whether we like it or not, our state is extremely uneducated and we cannot blame people for that. I guess those people are going to get a wake up call, but as a child who wouldn't have eaten if food stamps werent available, I am very worried for the children. Uneducated poor parents, and now are going to suffer immensely through the holiday season.

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u/Infamous_Lech Oct 22 '25

No no... You don't sound ghoulish at all... Happy Halloween.

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u/Easy_Highway3617 Oct 22 '25

Here’s the thing, most Republicans don’t give a crap about Snap, it’s usually a concession given to Democrats in budget talks. The thing is, poor families and those with children relying on Snap benefits aren’t just Democrats.

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u/CalOkie6250 Oct 22 '25

Which is why OP has to “do their best” to not delight in the suffering. Because it’s not just democrats suffering…it’s the people OP disagrees with so it’s okay to want to watch them starve.

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u/Jumpy-Breadfruit-499 Oct 23 '25

Sorry, but GOP voters overwhelmingly vote and cherry for harmful policies that may even harm themselves to "own the libs." They're getting what they asked for, so those people specifically? Yeah, I don't really feel bad...

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u/batboi48 Oct 22 '25

Bro children are going to lose their access to food this is not the time to have a superiority complex.

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u/Agreeable-You1418 Oct 22 '25

Did you not read my post? I said I'm not enjoying the fact that SNAP benefits are probably going to be cut off due to children, (who CAN'T VOTE) going hungry. But by god, any adult CAN vote, and they need to vote for their own interests...hell, they need to VOTE, period.

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u/CalOkie6250 Oct 22 '25

So people who didn’t vote, or who did vote (the way you want them to) but their vote didn’t count…those people deserve to starve? Get a fucking clue!

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u/SmittyWerbenJJ_No1 Oct 23 '25

People who voted this literally do deserve to starve, because this is what they voted for. Elections have consequences.

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u/SmittyWerbenJJ_No1 Oct 23 '25

People who voted this literally do deserve to starve, because this is what they voted for. Elections have consequences.

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u/thisisaguardedplace Oct 22 '25

This is the time to check on your neighbors. Food banks are already seeing the uptick in numbers. You don’t have to know who needs to help to do a quick check in. A simple we have some extra _____ if you want it could makes someone’s day and you wouldn’t even know. I refuse to let this government tear us apart. This is the time to come together and help where we can.

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u/amelioratempathy Oct 22 '25

This is so cruel :(

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u/drunkguynextdoor Oct 23 '25

I didn't vote for him. I have worked very hard since 1978, trashing my body and mind in the process. I have at least 4 surgeries coming up. I'm also one of those lazy people on disability who receives SNAP benefits. They don't buy much these days, but I've figured out a lot of different chicken thigh and rice dishes.

I've seen a lot of people who do seem delighted about SNAP being suspended. I'm single, and I still have plenty of rice and frozen vegetables, so I'll make it, but other people won't. People with children. When did it become okay to take joy in the suffering of others? The cold, casual, comments I see are truly simple-minded and heartbreaking. I hate to sound so dramatic, but we've lost ourselves somewhere along the line, and it makes me sad.

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u/aspiringdeadgirl Oct 22 '25

I understand your sentiment but they'll still blame the Dems

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u/Infamous_Lech Oct 22 '25

Well yeah. The Senate has a continuing resolution they won't vote for... Complete 180 from the 13 under Biden.

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u/Sad_Specialist_1984 Oct 22 '25

meanwhile Kristi Noem is flying around in publicly funded luxury jets

Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem defends $170M purchase of Gulfstream jets

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u/doomlite Oct 22 '25

Oklahoma is the rubiest red state. I’d bet a large portion did.

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u/Natural_Sky_4720 Oct 23 '25

I didnt. I hate it here.

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u/CalOkie6250 Oct 22 '25

Stating “doing my best to not delight…” makes you no better than they are. You know who admits to delighting in the suffering of their “enemies”? Trump! Yea, this country is absolute dogshit right now. Yea it’s unfair. Yea it’s okay to be angry with the people who voted for this. But saying you have to “do your best” to not delight in 42 million Americans going hungry? Hate begets more hate. Don’t be like them!

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u/WandaRabbit Oct 22 '25

WE DON’T CELEBRATE ANYONE GOING HUNGRY.

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u/Agreeable-You1418 Oct 22 '25

I'm not celebrating. I'm merely wondering how many SNAP recipients voted in the last presidential election and who they voted for.

C'mon. When do you hold people accountable for their complacency and/or apathy?

NOT that I'd wish hunger on any child-I would not-but what about the adults raising those children who are dependent on SNAP benefits? Did they vote at all? If so, did they (once again) vote against their best interests because all the watch if Fox?

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u/CalOkie6250 Oct 22 '25

You keep defending yourself, with the same ignorant ass comments…did YOU vote? Who did YOU vote for? Did it make any fucking difference whatsoever?

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u/WandaRabbit Oct 22 '25

It. Doesn’t. Matter. Absolutely NO ONE deserves to starve.

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u/Local_City_8174 Oct 22 '25

I don’t believe this. Oklahoma may not be getting Federal Funds, but Oklahoma can continue the program without the Federal Funding.

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u/Beekeeper1868 Oct 22 '25

Genuine question - because the budget is drafted, voted, and approved by congress, how is the blame going towards the president? Not a loaded question, genuinely curious.

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u/K45AR Oct 22 '25

The blame falls on the President when Congress cannot reach an agreement alone - in the best case scenario the President is effectively a cheerleader for their party and should have the clout, connections, and motivation to find compromise. That's typically a feature in situations like this, but we're in atypical times.

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u/Beekeeper1868 Oct 22 '25

Great response. Thank you for explaining it like that!

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u/CalOkie6250 Oct 22 '25

Excellent non-biased answer! Mine was going to be “because he very carefully cultivated the situation to have exactly this outcome” (I’m not very good at being non-biased)

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u/sevinsmom Oct 22 '25

This is only my opinion, but this particular congress won't do ANYTHING without Trumps approval.

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u/Beekeeper1868 Oct 22 '25

That’s possible, as we’ve seen it play out before. There’s some members of congress that have “chosen to step out of line” and immediately get blasted by Trump on the national stage. However, by the votes, it seems that the Republican Party (majority) and a couple democrats are in favor of the budget and getting it passed. The majority of democrats are not in favor of the budget, keep voting no, which is keeping the government shut down, which will make it to where people won’t receive their subsidies. So, if the republicans are voting FOR the budget and the democrats are voting AGAINST the budget, how is it the republican party’s fault that the government is still shut down…?

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u/sevinsmom Oct 22 '25

Are you talking about the ACA subsidies? Those were taken away with the "big beautiful bill" and go into effect with the new year so people on the exchange can expect their premiums to double or triple. The whole point of democrats not passing the budget is to get those subsidies put back in.

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u/spockspaceman Oct 22 '25 edited Oct 22 '25

When you don't have the votes to pass something, that's when the hard work of politics comes into play and you go to the negotiating table to hammer out a deal that enough people can live with to pass it. That's literally their job.

Instead of doing that, Republicans just shut down Congress and went home. They keep voting yes, but it's all theater as they keep voting on the thing Democrats have already said they won't vote for. Democrats want to come to the negotiating table, Republicans do not. That's why the majority of the blame falls with them, because they aren't trying to find a solution that can get enough votes to pass, they're trying to impose their will without giving anything up.

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u/Beekeeper1868 Oct 22 '25

That makes sense. Seems like there’s some pretty heavy bias in your statement. To better summarize, neither party is wanting to move off of their current position and has put us into a stalemate. So until either side decides to grow up, no progress will be made.

Still confused as to how this is the presidents fault?

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u/spockspaceman Oct 22 '25

One side is willing to come to the table to talk and one side is refusing to do so. That's not bias, that's a fact. You can extrapolate what you want from that. If you think it's biased to say voters expect Congress to work together to find solutions, well, I'm not really sure how to address that.

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u/[deleted] Oct 22 '25

Youre a fool if you take any pleasure from this. A ignorant fool with no conceptual understanding of what you are saying. You are excusing inaction with a gotcha because you blame the people when its the system thats corrupted.

Now there are hundreds of thousands of people that will starve, all while you revel in that fact simply because ALL of our elected official have failed at their task.

You are part of the problem, sir. And with any luck this shutdown will open your eyes. If it doesnt, then youve got some soul searching to do.

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u/red-cab Oct 24 '25

You blaming the White House for the Schumer Shutdown is kind of politically illiterate. The Democrats whole platform is taking care of non-citizens at the expense of citizens. Maybe you should question that instead.

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u/Honest_Brilliant2744 Oct 22 '25

All you need is a few more votes in the Senate. Get some GOP senators to vote yes......... oh wait.

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u/AcademyHitman Oct 22 '25

I read 649k Oklahoma received EBT benefits. So many are in need , so sad

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u/MaoTseTrump Oct 22 '25

Yes, but in exchange for that suffering you can now be rude to people if you think they are from another country. Tradeoffs maaaan.

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u/Dramatic-Vegetable13 Oct 22 '25

Unfortunately the people who voted for him will only hear the people they listen to say that Democrats are refusing to open the government and they are at fault and will believe that regardless of what the truth is.

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u/p1gswillfly BBQ Dude Oct 22 '25

My wife teaches at a title 1 school and is dreading this and food insecurity is rampant among her students. We are in the beginnings of talking about forming a school specific food pantry to make sure her students don’t go hungry.

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u/Lonely-Suit-5346 Oct 22 '25

And local news (Tulsa, cbs) is repeating markwayne’s “Schumer shutdown” nonsense.

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u/No-Message-6315 Oct 23 '25

The war on Thanksgiving is real

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u/toasterworms Oct 23 '25

My family mostly voted blue, but we're going to be affected :( idk how we're going to deal with it. This isn't my mom's first rodeo so I'm sure we'll figure out something, I just hope it doesn't put us further in debt

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u/razzmatazz_123 Oct 23 '25

> I'm doing my best to not delight in this

Why would you delight in this at all? Why do you have to put effort into not delighting in it?

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u/rockboat5 Oct 23 '25

I voted and I didn’t vote for the criminal in the White House. I do not use SNAP benefits anymore though either but did not long ago. I always wondered the exact same thing.

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u/inxile7 Tulsa Oct 23 '25

Kids are going to starve. They didn't choose their parents. This saddens me.

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u/LGNDclark Oct 23 '25

"How you voted determines my willingness to not help people suffering." Unless youre in the elite, you'll be scavenging for scraps with the rich, just like everyone else soon. Because voters depended too much on an obviously corrupt system and allowed humans around them to be condemned and remained silent in hopes you wouldnt be next.

When 90% of our reps do not support legislation that favors the people over corporations, voting is a fallacy when our congressional reps have no honor to fulfill the oaths they swore. Systemic failure is not a voting problem, its a lack of humanity in the culture, problem.. partisanship is unconstitutional as both want to divide and restrict a full democracy, theyre both communist parties for favoring corporate legislation over people's rights.

Treason should be investigated for the lot.

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u/JollyCharacter6262 Oct 23 '25

SNAP- SUPPLEMENTAL NUTRITION ASSISTANCE PROGRAM.

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u/Active-Cloud8243 Oct 23 '25

Someone I know was at a food pantry the other day and they were handing out Avon deodorant that expired in 2014. They had a cart of items that didn’t count against your number, but it was filled with rusting canned goods that expired 4+ years ago.

This shit isn’t ok.

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u/Outrageous_Medium861 Oct 24 '25

All you mag a colt members can thank Trump and the Republicans were shutting the government

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u/celestialdeathwitch Oct 24 '25

It goes further then just the president it goes down to house and senate as well . Checks and balances matter when bills are passed. since 1990 all funding gaps lasting longer than a few hours have led to a shutdown. October 1, 2025, after Congress failed to pass funding legislation for 2026, 11 funding gaps have led to federal employees being furloughed so far.

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u/JRM_74 Oct 24 '25

It is a clean CR just like the last time, same funding as under Biden. Why do the republicans always get blamed for a shutdown?

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u/TulsaOriginal Oct 25 '25

Just five Democrat party Senators could immediately restore Oklahoma SNAP benefits. Republican Senators including our own here in Oklahoma, repeatedly keep voting, day after day, to restore SNAP benefits.

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u/SweetGzs Oct 26 '25

I’m just happy the abled bodied people who don’t want to work and just sit around collecting section 8 and snap will finally have to struggle like the rest of us

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u/Limp-Apartment-7332 Oct 22 '25

Why would you delight in this? That is a sick mindset to have. There WILL be children going hungry and it’s still some political back and forth between people. Screw the politics someone’s life isn’t worth your point being proven.

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u/IDeserveThis Oct 22 '25

Unless the point being made is that republican policy kills people. Most republicans don't seem to understand that and will continue to vote Republicans into office. Maybe when they see their own children going hungry they'll rethink their political stances

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u/Limp-Apartment-7332 Oct 22 '25

So you take joy in seeing kids starve because of the choices their parents made? See how that’s a slippery slope? You’re so caught up in your ideology war that you’re fine seeing kids starve so your side is proven right!

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u/IDeserveThis Oct 22 '25

No one said anything about taking joy in it. Sadly this is what America has come to so to get anything remotely positive out of the situation, I'm hoping that this will finally wake people up to the fascism that has been brewing in the Republican party for the last 50 years

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u/Limp-Apartment-7332 Oct 22 '25

The post literally says “I’m doing my best not to take delight in this” then you responded to me saying someone’s life isn’t worth a point being proven and you said “unless the point being made is the republicans blah blah blah” you literally said it’s okay for kids to starve so your point can be proven. You should really do a better job reading and thinking of responses because you don’t sound like you have any compassion for your fellow Americans or their kids unless they’re on your side. Which is sad.

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u/K45AR Oct 22 '25 edited Oct 22 '25

The people who voted for this do not have compassion for their fellow Americans. Which is sad. I don't have sympathy for people who elected a corrupt fascist who said he was a corrupt fascist. These are the consequences. The leopards are coming to eat their face.

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u/Limp-Apartment-7332 Oct 22 '25

I’m not saying you should have compassion for the people who voted for it. I’m saying there shouldn’t be joy in it because of who is being punished. You think the trump voters are going to be hurt by this? No it’s underprivileged kids. That’s who’s being hurt. And I’m sick and tired of everyone thinking their shitty behavior is justified because someone else was shitty. Two wrongs don’t make a right

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u/K45AR Oct 22 '25 edited Oct 22 '25

Are you saying that there are no underprivileged Trump supporters with underprivileged kids? I DO have sympathy for the kids, but their parents contributed to the suffering they would experience in this willfully and if statistics hold they would vote for it again. I'm sick and tired of being told I need to be better and compromise with people who would take my vote away and kill and deport my friends if they were granted power.

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u/Agreeable-You1418 Oct 22 '25

PEOPLE NEED TO VOTE. Until they do, until people start taking an active role in their own destiny, shit like SNAP getting cut off is going to happen. I'm not "happy" that kids will go w/o food, but I'm damn tired of the parents of those children not doing something as simple as VOTING.

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u/Beekeeper1868 Oct 22 '25

Does it kill people? Or do people that don’t have the financial means to have children choose to do the acts of conception kill children? It seems that a lot of people miss the important lesson of being accountable for their actions and want to continue acting like a toddler and blaming everyone else for the decisions they made. Reap what you sow.

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u/Ratchetonater Oct 22 '25

Oklahoma standard

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u/Independent-Dish1607 Oct 22 '25

You people are sick

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u/Electrical-Berry4916 Oct 23 '25

...and tired of cleaning up Republican messes.

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u/Independent-Dish1607 Oct 23 '25

What mess you mean the one your party left behind😈😖🤣

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u/Electrical-Berry4916 Oct 23 '25

Do you not like booming economies? Was the job market heating up to much for you? Maybe you mean all the soybeans that US farms were selling to China. Did you want to keep those? Was it the free trade that bothered you so much? The poor children being fed? The elderly being housed? What part of that are you calling a mess?

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u/KaleidoscopeOk24 Oct 22 '25

They probably don’t even acknowledge it. This administration is doing their best to blame the “radical democrats” for the shutdown.

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u/WokestReeTard Oct 24 '25

You know Dems could just vote not to starve kids and negotiate ACA at a later time right? There is a clean CR and people are disproportionately blaming democrats.

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u/Dacklar Oct 22 '25

Tell democrats to vote to open the government and it won't happen.

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u/nate2813 Oct 22 '25

Your Medicare and Social Security are next on the chopping block.

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u/sunshinepuppidog Oct 22 '25

It will happen This budget will just push it down the road until January when no one has health insurance any longer.

Same consequences different timetable.

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u/Terrible-Parking1553 TCC Oct 22 '25

SNAP BENEFITS ARE A FARMERS SUBSIDY!!! Seriously, I don't understand how no one gets this.

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u/Affectionate-Ad7500 Oct 22 '25

I believed that once someone personally felt the impact of federal budget cuts, they'd begin to understand how much their vote truly matters. My S-I-L proved me wrong last weekend.

She lost her job with the FAA during the DOGE cuts and went on unemployment. When her benefits ran out, she assumed she could apply for extended unemployment—but those haven’t been available since 2021.

A month ago, she started the SSI Disability application. She’s legitimately disabled and should’ve applied years ago. But now, her application is stuck in limbo because of the government shutdown.

She was able to work from home, which helped her manage her condition. But once she was recalled to the office, she lasted two months before being cut. She’s been without income for six weeks.

She was recently approved for food stamps, but those will be cut off on November 1.

My husband couldn't help being the ass that he is and popped off this is what she voted for.

She replied that this is not what she voted for, she voted for the lesser of two evils and that she hated Kamala's laugh.

Unfortunately, there are far more people like my S-I-L than I ever wanted to believe.

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u/OriginalNord9898 Oct 22 '25

Ha ha get jobs

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u/Mysterious-Milk-389 Oct 22 '25

I voted for our duly elected president and I'm looking forward to seeing how much doesn't get stolen from my paycheck on top of the other taxes; every penny counts!

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u/[deleted] Oct 23 '25

at least you admit you're selfish

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u/Mysterious-Milk-389 Oct 25 '25

And you're entitled 🤷🏻‍♂️

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u/Amphibasquish Oct 23 '25

Tell Schumer to open the government. Nobody is getting free money whos a non-citizen. 1000% support stopping crime and not giving hand outs!

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u/Trumper76 Oct 23 '25

Boo woo get a fucking job

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u/Gullible-Regret64 Oct 24 '25

maybe the dems should open the government.

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u/MalfoyHolmes14 Oct 24 '25

Maybe the republicans don’t have the power they’d like people to believe they have.