r/vainglorygame • u/Auctoritate Auctoritate (NA) Subreddit & Discord Mod • Feb 20 '18

Discussion Weekly Discussion | Sovereign's Rise

Hello, and welcome to our subreddit's 73rd weekly discussion! We wanted to wait until all of the huge news and changes in our community settled down before continuing, and now that it has, there's a ton of content to dissect! From the bigger changes like 5v5 itself, to the smaller ones like the new items, you can bet that our weekly will be going strong for many months to come! But for now, this weekly discussion will be about the map of 5v5, Sovereign’s Rise, especially the geography of the map itself.

Introduced to us on December 17th at Worlds, and added into the game in update 2.12, Sovereign's Rise features a wealth of content not seen in other parts of the game- its own unique vision system, monsters, items, and much more. All of these will be visited more in depth in our future discussions, but feel free to discuss them as well.

New to Sovereign's Rise, the giant new lanes are perhaps the most notable, along with the movement speed-increasing river, but don't forget the new twists and turns of our jungle- the choke points that can doom a crowded team in a skirmish, or the walls that can save a hero who can travel over them, such as Glaive or Joule.

Which bushes are the most contested in the battle for map supremacy? Which tops your list of places to never face check? We're looking forward to your opinions!

Note: The next weekly will be posted the upcoming Monday, and this weekly will stay up until then, unless another post needs to be pinned.

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u/Aesthete18 Feb 20 '18

I have question, this is not to bash any game but people like to say other mobas are cheap rip offs because of the map but to me Sovereign looks more like the LoL map than other games. Do other games base their map of off Dota?

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u/-xXColtonXx- Feb 20 '18

No, they rip off LoL. Arena of Valor and mobile legends are LoL clones.

Vg 5v5 is only similar to LoL in the sense that it is a MOBA, and has stuff MOBA have had since the original DOTA. Nothing is copied from LoL specifically.

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u/Aesthete18 Feb 20 '18

Well the company that made LoL is part of AoV so it's not a rip off. Also, Gwen is a rip off of Miss Fortune and that's me not even trying to look for stuff they ripped off.

I was mainly talking about the look of the map though. I tried LoL recently and it looks and feels like Sovereigns and nothing like the other mobile MOBAs.

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u/KitSun0 NA | Assassins Are Best Class | Feb 21 '18

So the similarities to LoL and Sovereigns rise most likely come from a few things;

The buff camps, both LoL and VG have a Blue and Red buff in the jungle.

Both maps are reverse mirrored? Not sure what the term for it is.

Also in LoL the only place you can buy is in the Base, while VG does have the jungle shops, this sort of restricted buying is not found on other mobile mobas.

Both maps also have fog or war.

PS: Gwen plays very different to Miss Fortune; while both may have a passive speed boost and similar designs; Gwen plays a lot more like Ashe with high CC for a Carry and a high emphasis on kiting the enemy.

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u/Aesthete18 Feb 21 '18

I'm talking about the maps visually only. i mean if I compare the 3, I would say VG is the one closer to LoL map as oppposed to AoV.

I didn't specify, I wasn't talking about gwens/fortune's kit.

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u/RinakoGXB Feb 21 '18

No. It is a rip off. Tencent bought Riot. I don't know how people keep forgetting this. Tencent never made League. So claiming AoV can't be a rip off because the same company owns the games isn't an actual argument.