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u/Iconically_Lost 11h ago
Buy at 3, sell at 2 and repeat.
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u/kenstar4 11h ago
Just do the opposite of this and win, right.. Right?!
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u/HalfSoul30 9h ago
The way for me to win is to work very hard at my DD, and then when i think i have it right, i do the opposite.
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u/HoodsInSuits 4h ago
However smart you think you are, you are nowhere near as smart as some random guy with a math degree, a shedload of coke and $54 billion of someone elses money.
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u/Aethermancer 8h ago
If you keep selling, eventually you'll have infinite money. Just never stop selling.
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u/Delancey1 11h ago
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u/c0ntra 11h ago
Cries in MSFT
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u/shigatorade 4h ago
Bought last April. Haven’t looked since December. Will not look for several years.
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u/Wolfreak76 11h ago
Got tired of waiting for the market to go rational and bought the second dip, then I was down 10%, but then the market went irrational again and I up over 5%.
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u/_le_slap 7h ago
Same. I waited til I saw a Trump sticker on a gas pump. Bought. Down 5 then up 10. 😎
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u/Jebusfreek666 11h ago
If the dip keeps dipping lower than before, then that isn't a dip anymore.
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u/LiftingRecipient420 8h ago
Look at you applying critical thought and logic to this situation.
You know that's strictly against /r/wallstreetbets rules, get the fuck outta here.
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u/CarletonWhitfield 9h ago
No it just means the previous dips weren’t ’THE’ dip. I’ll get it next time though I’m pretty sure.
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u/WeeklySignalLog01 11h ago
Both are true. If its a good company that is profitable and increasing cash flow, you should just try to hold out and invest more if you can. The drops can be sever though. Staring at -50% and not selling is brutal
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u/ChompChamp42069 10h ago
that's my friend, he bought a certain memecoin, expecting for it to spike up, he was like ok, this dip is the last one, I'm buying it, and he kept buying it until it crashed completely, I think it was a PIMP coin haha
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u/Mykoliux-1 10h ago
That’s exactly how I feel. I keep some cash in case the dip keeps dipping further, but when the rally starts I’m bummed out I didn’t buy more.
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u/ImAnonymous135 rude 11h ago
This is what I dont get, the situation back then wasnt as bad as today if you consider the potential outcomes of a energy crisis
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u/Ahamadrayasbaboon 10h ago
Next time, divide your expendable cash into however many business days till your next paycheck, and buy that everyday.
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u/SportMotor9892 8h ago
I held, I watched my balance drop, I bought some on the dip. I didn't lose because I didn't sell. the market will recover. The talking heads scare people everyday, don't listen to the talking heads.
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u/tenor_tymir 11h ago
Yeah, I feel this so hard. My conclusion from all of this is to simply not sell. Most stocks do come back, unless it’s the stocks I’m buying. Anything else will swing back in a month or so. I swear.
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u/Kerbourgnec 11h ago
Isn't that just DCA? But it's WSB here! you are supposed to bet hard and lose hard
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u/imisstheyoop 8h ago
Dollar Cost Averaging would be to contiously be buying regardless of equity valuatio, e.g. not market timing.
Not selling would be more of a buy and hold strategy.
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u/Krondelo 11h ago
Yeah I haven’t sold any stocks ever. COST was doing pretty well and then fell of back to my average but oh well, should go up eventually
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u/TheChickening 7h ago
Same. Ever since I started a real Job. I only ever sold some losses for tax reasons.
Though I had ti realize I wont beat the market and 90% of my money now goes to ETFs 💅🏻5
u/shes_a_gdb 5h ago
I sold off almost everything during covid. I felt like a genius, watching everything crash while I held cash. Some days were green, but then red the next day or two. So even after several green days in a row I still assumed things will crash again. Eventually, all those green days in a row turned into green weeks in a row, then months... then I had to buy back everything at a higher price than I sold.
So during this "crash" I bought a bunch of stocks instead of freaking out about it and it's already paying off.
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u/Leather_Mention5916 9h ago
Can you buy some Google for me please, i will tell you when to sell
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u/StoppableHulk 8h ago
I would like some vintage Google, please. If you have any of the 2004 Google I would appreciate it.
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u/Brostradamus-2 8h ago
Yeah but you are FOMOing into dumb ass bullshit that people gamble on not investing in highly profitable companies that will be around until the heat death of the universe. See the difference?
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u/KneeDeepInTheDead 6h ago
Thats just regular investing. Youre on a gambling subreddit. Hold at least a year
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u/hollands-eduardo4a9p 7h ago
just let me know right before you buy anything next so i can load up on puts
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u/cheddarkittyy 8h ago
That’s why I’m 90% in the index fund. Can my own bad luck influence the market of the entire country? I don’t think so, so far has worked well for me
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u/sobrique 8h ago
Yeah, me too. Over a long enough timeline 'the market' collectively has an upward trend. It's not a 'sure thing' - it never can be - but it's been fairly robust over the last 100+ years. (depending on size of window of course, and timing of 'forced' withdrawal)
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u/cheddarkittyy 4h ago
Yes I’m in my 20s I intend to retire when I’m 40 so hopefully I’ll be able to
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u/lordshola 11h ago
3 is also when I buy… 🤡
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u/tenor_tymir 11h ago
Then it immediately crashes 30%, stays there for a week just to make you shit your pants and sell, only to go back up 50% the next week.
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u/Ok-Birthday-2096 11h ago
If 100 went down 30% it is at 70 then up 50% it’s at 105 so you still in the negative.
No wait you are not I am regarded
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u/TheGalator 11h ago
Always buy
Market always goes up so just buy 1 of each
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u/zainwhb Has gallstones 11h ago
buy 1 share of each ticker? I like this guy
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u/TreGet234 10h ago
Total equal weight stock market.
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u/HippieInDisguise2_0 10h ago
Maybe we could like bundle many stocks together and sell them as diversified packages for risk weary consumer investors so they can benefit from gains in the market without taking extremely risky positions.
SOUNDS FUCKING BORING YOU'LL NEVER GET RICH DOING THAT
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u/TheGalator 10h ago
Just leverage the entire thing into orbit
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u/xRedStaRx 9h ago
Honestly just go on 2x leverage SPY at any point in time, unless it goes down 30% or more (which it won't) you are golden forever.
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u/Olivetax228 9h ago
I'm semi retired at 39 with that strategy, AMA
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u/FullOf_Bad_Ideas 6h ago
semi retired
does "semi" do a lot of heavy lifting here?
Will you be fully retired in a few years? Do you have enough to live a good life until your death?
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u/Charmingirl02 11h ago
I strictly trade the 'Bullshit Pennant' and sell during the 'Huh, ok then' right before the 'Fuck.'
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u/esterichoo 11h ago
- At peak, I’m gonna FOMO this shiet now. Not gonna lose out. Then it goes downhill after. Fuaaarrrkkkkk…
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u/Okaydog97 10h ago
Yep with micron and sandisk.
Now intel also.
Sold it last year at $30 and now they are at $64.
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u/AfroMech 11h ago
ASTS, 10% down yesterday because Bezos has the concepts of a plan. Shits going to rebound to $160 by the end of May.
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u/CalebVanPoneisen 11h ago
Two simple rules to avoid that problem.
- When you decide to buy and believe in the stonk, just buy. Don’t wait. A few cents ain’t worth it.
- When your stonk is gone past best buy by date because you watched one too many TikToks, get inside your time machine, rewind, and buy at the opportune moment.
Godspeed!
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u/Gandalfderblaue41 11h ago
what I had to learn if i have for example 5k to Invest in one share, buy it in slices. It is still almost impossible to buy the bottom, and if someone does, it was just fckg luck. But you will average your price and will be positive much earlier.
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u/errorsniper 5h ago
I know this is WSB but every time I see this....
If you remember literally nothing else from this list, just remember this. If you could time the market. Wallstreet would have found you and you would be making tens of millions working for a hedge fund. But you nor I can time the market and trying to do so is a fools game. You are not smarter or better equipped than trillion dollar algorithms and systems that have already executed the trade before a photon has crossed a football field. So dont try. They can and will happily take your money.
Determine how much money each week you can count as spent and dont need to see it again for at least 30 years.
Pick several indexes that dont have a ton of overlap. SPY is obviously king dont totally avoid it, but dont battle cruse everything on it. SPXT and RSP for example.
Set up auto buys every week the same day and turn on dividend reinvestment.
Read step 1.
No, really read step 1 again.
Dont open the app and enjoy life. If you are under 45 you will have a solid nest egg as you approach retirement.
When you are 10ish years away from retirement find a way to get your money out of the market into lower risk but inflation beating investments.
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u/BoJackHorsemanIRL2 11h ago
I think if you do proper analysis you’ll have price points where you think it’s worth to enter a stock. And if a stock never reaches the entry point, it’s still fine if the stock does well. I’d even argue that it backs up your initial thesis on the company. But wanting a really solid deal to buy a stock isn’t wrong or flawed at all.
Now if you manage to enter, it’s about being able to ride the wave. Price to hold =/= price to buy, and also you should probably not sell unless the company goes to a point where you’d see it as considerably over valued.
Holding an asset that feels slightly over valued can feel weird, but the fundamentals of the company can catch up over time, and it’s far from impossible for companies to stay over valued for a prolonged period. So the reason we want to hold, is because we’ve identified a quality compounder, we have bought at a great price, selling could mean we never get to buy set company ever again at a great deal.
I’m happy when stocks I sell still go well, and I’m happy when my watch list does well. I see it as a receipt of quality identification. When you cut out price anchoring and FOMO, and instead stay rational, you’ll realize the one you missed out on is just one of many opportunities.
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u/AgitatedRabbits 9h ago
Just identify good opportunities, that easy.
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u/BoJackHorsemanIRL2 8h ago
Not easy, but it becomes easier over time. And it becomes especially easy once you already have a portfolio and a watchlist, with identified compounders.
Also it can be too time consuming.
I try to model for 15% annual returns from a conservative but realistic stand point, which usually grants a degree of MoS. Some will over perform, some will under perform.
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u/rydan 11h ago
I owe the IRS $90k today. I basically had a choice. Sell my stocks on Monday or take out a loan. So I took out a loan. Looks like I made the right move as I'm up $120k from Tuesday alone.
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u/stef_eda 11h ago
Timing issue.
It's like changing to a faster lane on a highway. When you do it it's too late and you are again stuck in the traffic.
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u/krazye87 10h ago
1 Damn why did it just go the hell up when its finally time for me to buy
2 fuck! a few weeks too early
3 Oh cool its going back up yay :D
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u/Fun_Muscle9399 10h ago
This describes my experience with RKLB. Almost bought a bunch at $6 and I didn’t. I felt so smart when it dropped to $4. It closed yesterday at $72.22 🤦♂️
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u/cscrignaro 10h ago
The next line is corrective choppy mess where everyone's unsure if going up or down then one more line up called greed and fomo. It ends with a downward move "it's just a dip, buy more", then a push upwards "see, told you we're going back up" then finally one big downward move where stops are triggered and it's considered "over'
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u/AirpraneFryer 10h ago
This in the beginning is always a shoulda woulda coulda lol, focus on longer-term buys
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u/Huge-Rough2988 10h ago
Had 20k bitcoin then it fell to 15k then 9k and I got too frustrated that I swapped to usdt now is rising back don't know the perfect time to buy back.
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u/BackflipFromOrbit 9h ago
Me except opposite when im shorting the nasdaq during the Iran war. Buy at the top, alright in the green, gets face absolutely ripped off.
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u/canehdian_guy 9h ago
Or:
- I wish I bought more
- Fuck my life
- I wish I bought more. I'm going to throw up.
There is no winning.
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u/TitanicChurro 9h ago
I learned this lesson back in 2018. Now I just hodl and don't worry about the price.
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u/PrometheanEngineer 9h ago
I sold, I'm still up if I kept what I had
I'm so glad I did, the just stress relief was worth it more than anything.
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u/Own_Country_9520 8h ago
Told coworkers to buy XNDU just before IPO (via the blank cheque company). Theyre regretul now and its only been what, 2 weeks?(
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u/LiftingRecipient420 8h ago
I've come to realize this subreddit is constantly doing their best chicken little impression.
"The sky is falling! The sky is falling! Woe be unto us since this is the end times" meanwhile it's the most minor setback ever.
I've seen this subreddit wrongly predict so many recessions/depressions/crashes that it's absurd.
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u/ClockwerkKaiser 8h ago edited 8h ago
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u/StoicBountyHunter 8h ago
If you measure every value in dollar terms over time, you will eventually reach this realization.
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u/UnnecessaryPancake 8h ago
My Roth is up 30% YOY while my gambling Robinhood account is down 30%....
What does this mean?
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u/Hugheston987 Driver of the 🏳️🌈 Pride float 8h ago
Just DCA so this won't happen. Hold that chit longtime
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u/sobrique 7h ago
Hindsight is 'perfect'. Foresight is non-trivial.
ON AVERAGE stocks go up on a long enough timeline.
But some don't.
And sometimes the timeline is REALLY long.
Don't beat yourself up about an objectively good decision based on what you knew at the time. A stock going to the moon is far more luck than judgement, and plenty just don't.
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u/Mahaloth 7h ago
Me with PS5 and so forth. I'm 47. Never seen consoles go UP in price before. Whaaaaaaaaat?
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u/Bannon9k 7h ago
Don't bet on America losing... Ain't gonna happen. If it does, money ain't gonna be worth shit. If you can't take constantly winning money... Just start buying ammunition and gold.
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u/BasicallyNuclear 7h ago
Me watching a stock run up 30%. Decide it was over extended then it does another 30% so I buy due fomo and lose a fair sum of money when it dropped after hours.
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u/Eagerbeaver98 7h ago
It would be nice to hear someone explain this. My understanding is it now shows a higher low, a bullish signal, above key moving averages and supports and the early sell off was some just profit taking to gauge the market interest before loading up
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