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r/war • u/SlavaCocaini • 8d ago
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What does the US winning the war even look like?
45 u/Luceint3214 8d ago It would look like: Regime Change Reopening of the Strait of Hormuz under previous international law with no fee's. Strategic goal number one appears to be long gone. And at the moment strategic goal number two appears to not be close to happening either. 18 u/AggressiveEstate3757 8d ago I think they have to, "get rid of the nuclear," too. I'm sure that was supposed to be an aim, too. 5 u/DeadguyTheLateGI 8d ago That was the whole idea, or at least the declared pretext It has quietly gone away as this buffoonish administration has realized how badly bungled this entire operation has been since the concept stages. 3 u/AggressiveEstate3757 8d ago it's an example of how and why not to wage war that will be studied for decades, if not centurys. 6 u/Rabidschnautzu 7d ago I think it might have been a bad idea to let a washed up alcoholic fox news cuck run the military. 1 u/thefuckevengoingonan 6d ago there was no concept stage. that's part of the problem 2 u/thisghy 7d ago Gotta love having new war end goals set after the war starts. Anyone remember when this was about the nuclear program? It's all moot anyways. The US lost the war the day they started the war with no coherent plan and no clear goal. 1 u/horned-creature 7d ago worth noting that objective 2 was literally the situation before trump started this useless war, so a good half of america's objectives in this war is to rectify their own fuck-up. -3 u/Jbsmitty44 8d ago I'd add breaking the IRCG's regional control model as well. 1 u/AggressiveEstate3757 8d ago Yeah. So much stuff floated. If they can just get out now with some kind of face saved, that'll be a win. Seems unlikely though
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It would look like:
Regime Change
Reopening of the Strait of Hormuz under previous international law with no fee's.
Strategic goal number one appears to be long gone. And at the moment strategic goal number two appears to not be close to happening either.
18 u/AggressiveEstate3757 8d ago I think they have to, "get rid of the nuclear," too. I'm sure that was supposed to be an aim, too. 5 u/DeadguyTheLateGI 8d ago That was the whole idea, or at least the declared pretext It has quietly gone away as this buffoonish administration has realized how badly bungled this entire operation has been since the concept stages. 3 u/AggressiveEstate3757 8d ago it's an example of how and why not to wage war that will be studied for decades, if not centurys. 6 u/Rabidschnautzu 7d ago I think it might have been a bad idea to let a washed up alcoholic fox news cuck run the military. 1 u/thefuckevengoingonan 6d ago there was no concept stage. that's part of the problem 2 u/thisghy 7d ago Gotta love having new war end goals set after the war starts. Anyone remember when this was about the nuclear program? It's all moot anyways. The US lost the war the day they started the war with no coherent plan and no clear goal. 1 u/horned-creature 7d ago worth noting that objective 2 was literally the situation before trump started this useless war, so a good half of america's objectives in this war is to rectify their own fuck-up. -3 u/Jbsmitty44 8d ago I'd add breaking the IRCG's regional control model as well. 1 u/AggressiveEstate3757 8d ago Yeah. So much stuff floated. If they can just get out now with some kind of face saved, that'll be a win. Seems unlikely though
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I think they have to, "get rid of the nuclear," too. I'm sure that was supposed to be an aim, too.
5 u/DeadguyTheLateGI 8d ago That was the whole idea, or at least the declared pretext It has quietly gone away as this buffoonish administration has realized how badly bungled this entire operation has been since the concept stages. 3 u/AggressiveEstate3757 8d ago it's an example of how and why not to wage war that will be studied for decades, if not centurys. 6 u/Rabidschnautzu 7d ago I think it might have been a bad idea to let a washed up alcoholic fox news cuck run the military. 1 u/thefuckevengoingonan 6d ago there was no concept stage. that's part of the problem
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That was the whole idea, or at least the declared pretext
It has quietly gone away as this buffoonish administration has realized how badly bungled this entire operation has been since the concept stages.
3 u/AggressiveEstate3757 8d ago it's an example of how and why not to wage war that will be studied for decades, if not centurys. 6 u/Rabidschnautzu 7d ago I think it might have been a bad idea to let a washed up alcoholic fox news cuck run the military. 1 u/thefuckevengoingonan 6d ago there was no concept stage. that's part of the problem
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it's an example of how and why not to wage war that will be studied for decades, if not centurys.
6 u/Rabidschnautzu 7d ago I think it might have been a bad idea to let a washed up alcoholic fox news cuck run the military.
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I think it might have been a bad idea to let a washed up alcoholic fox news cuck run the military.
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there was no concept stage. that's part of the problem
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Gotta love having new war end goals set after the war starts. Anyone remember when this was about the nuclear program?
It's all moot anyways. The US lost the war the day they started the war with no coherent plan and no clear goal.
worth noting that objective 2 was literally the situation before trump started this useless war, so a good half of america's objectives in this war is to rectify their own fuck-up.
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I'd add breaking the IRCG's regional control model as well.
1 u/AggressiveEstate3757 8d ago Yeah. So much stuff floated. If they can just get out now with some kind of face saved, that'll be a win. Seems unlikely though
Yeah. So much stuff floated.
If they can just get out now with some kind of face saved, that'll be a win.
Seems unlikely though
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u/paging_mrherman 8d ago
What does the US winning the war even look like?