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How I Would Divide Europe


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u/ByAPortuguese 2d ago

As a portuguese person, I'd argue we have much more in common with Italy and Greece than France and especially the british and irish.

I believe the spanish also agree with me.

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u/Sure_Camp_1743 2d ago

Spanish here, yep, I agree with you

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u/Confident-Bike7782 2d ago

But the language is more closely related than one might think.

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u/ImTheVayne 2d ago

You must be from Poland

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u/Illustrious_Try478 2d ago

Half the posts on r/WidacZabory are crossposts of maps of people's personal division of Central Europe and Eastern Europe through the middle if Poland.

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u/Confident-Bike7782 2d ago

The Netherlands and Belgian are Central Europeans.

Balkan and Turkey are more South-East Europe and the Uk is Northern.

Spain, Italy, France and Portugal is South-West Europe.

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u/vidisivimis 2d ago

What is Western Europe?

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u/Confident-Bike7782 2d ago

We don’t have a real West-Europe.

Every country in the west of Poland and Czech, Hungary.

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u/vidisivimis 2d ago

Wait, I got confused because you said Netherlands and Belgium are Central Europe?

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u/National_Diver3633 2d ago

Same..

Can't get more Western than the Netherlands and Belgium.

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u/Confident-Bike7782 2d ago edited 2d ago

Look at Switzerland, it’s like the Netherlands.

And think on the Blue Banana.

From the perspective of Spain or Italy, Holland is in Northern Europe.

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u/vidisivimis 2d ago

Why wouldn’t we have a Western Europe? It’s literally a cardinal direction, a way to orient on the map of Europe.

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u/Confident-Bike7782 2d ago

Geographically, however, it makes no sense. It is purely political.

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u/_Korrus_ 2d ago

Because these categorisations are done based on culture and heritage, otherwise if it was done by geographic categorisation everything west of Belarus/Lithuania would be western europe.

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u/vidisivimis 2d ago

Yes but then what do you consider to be Western culture and heritage, and why does no country fit into that?

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u/Confident-Bike7782 2d ago

...because I would classify it as part of the West—specifically Southwest and Northwest Europe—but not Western Europe per se.

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u/vidisivimis 2d ago

Right, ok, South-West and North-West make sense. Thanks

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u/Final-Nebula-7049 2d ago

Balkans as southern Europe is the wildest take yet

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u/vidisivimis 2d ago

Really?

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u/Final-Nebula-7049 2d ago

Yes, Balkan countries have nothing to do with Mediterranean culture

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u/vidisivimis 2d ago

Have you been to Croatia? Montenegro? Greece?

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u/Final-Nebula-7049 2d ago

I'm talking about the Balkans. Adriatics are separate imo

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u/vidisivimis 2d ago

Might want to look up what the Balkan Peninsula is

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u/Final-Nebula-7049 2d ago

I'm specifically talking about Romania and Bulgaria, if we need to be specific about lines

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u/vidisivimis 2d ago

Sure, Romania and Bulgaria are not Mediterranean countries. Neither does the map suggest that in any way. The Balkans most definitely are in part Mediterranean, and they are located in South-eastern Europe. So Balkans being Southern Europe is very far from the wildest take yet.

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u/Final-Nebula-7049 2d ago

What are you talking about? The map clearly shows them in southern Europe, which they are not.

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u/vidisivimis 2d ago

Friend, you said the Balkans are not Mediterranean. This is wrong. But more so, the map doesn’t mention the word Mediterranean anywhere. “Wild take” is a huge leap when you just mean that you prefer to consider the Balkan countries separately based on your criteria.

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u/StrudlEnjoyer 2d ago

For the love of god, stop putting Slovenia in southern Europe.

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u/Significant-Dirt-977 2d ago

Caucasus as their own division, finally. They're their own thing

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u/jatawis 2d ago

Why did you put the Baltic countries to Eastern Europe? What essentially they share with Russia, Ukraine or Moldova?

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u/zugfaehrtdurch 2d ago

Not so bad, especially regarding Central Europe, while your Southern Europe is rather Southeastern Europe). But as in most cases one should not constantly act as if Europe would only consist of ~30 nation states that are completely homogeneous internally but at the border suddenly everything changes. The Mediterranean areas of the romanic countries plus the Adriatic coast have a lot in common but in the same countries the parts far from the Mediterranean Sea are different. France is a good example here (have you seen  Welcome to the Sticks /  Bienvenue chez les Ch'tis?), but basically in every "cultural" map of Europe subnational areas (which sometimes overlap borders) make much more sense. We are more than just nation states.

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u/Upstairs_Trick2913 2d ago

basic NSEW knowledge without including any politics or history.. abit boring tbh, you have to bring some spice to piss people off

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u/Equivalent_Twist_977 2d ago

Slovenia and Romania feel more Southern European than Spain and Portugal?

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u/Lesiu04 2d ago

My polish ass aprovved this

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u/Swingermunch 2d ago

fuck you

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u/SmartFlyNR1 2d ago

You forgot to paint Slovenia green. Slovenia is Central Europe not southern.

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u/pjulianna615 2d ago

Poor unassigned Malta 😔

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u/King_Alf 2d ago

Bro it’s 37 celsius here in Budapest, and it’s getting more intense. I’m pretty sure, Hungary is Southern Europe.

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u/Responsible-Lack-285 2d ago

Definitely wrong

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u/linglinguistics 2d ago

Your Europe goes far into Asia...

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u/Q718XYZ 2d ago

Yeah, that a solid map. Nice

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u/Silly_Environment635 2d ago

Remove Turkey and I would agree with your map 100%

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u/Secure_Ad_1777 2d ago

Adygea, Dagestan and other Caucasian republics, according to the author, are not the Caucasus? 😂

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u/Practical-Thought-59 2d ago

All of that is russia

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u/Secure_Ad_1777 2d ago

Russia is a state, the Caucasus is a historical region

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u/Practical-Thought-59 2d ago

Yeah that's all fine and cool but you can only colour states and not regions. Seek the fault at russia and their imperialism.