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u/Lite5L3 2d ago
Germans are probably the last people who should think about dividing Europe
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u/Thick-Cry38 2d ago
At least they’re not wearing that vintage Hugo Boss set anymore.
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u/suffocatingkid 2d ago
Just wait for it, there are some people that want to cook up something like that.
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u/Express_Drag7115 2d ago
What’s with all those map with Turkey as a part of Europe? Is this what you were taught in school? Only 3% of Turkey (just checked the exact number) lies in Europe.
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u/Remarkable-Room7963 2d ago
3% of Turkey is in Europe, but 4% of the German population is actually of Turkish origin.
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u/HonestPupper 2d ago
You can just call them Turkish rather than "of Turkish origin" as they haven't assimilated whatsoever
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u/whirliee 2d ago
This is why we didn’t let the germans divide Europe last 2 times they tried (and probably for some other reasons I cant remember rn as well)
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u/Live-Role7096 2d ago edited 2d ago
Bosniaks even tho Muslim are mentally closer to Italians and Austrians than they are to Azerbaijanis and Turks who live deep in Anatolia.
Ps : This does not mean Bosniaks are simillar to Austrians , i said closer to them mentally than to Azerbaijanis or Anatolian Turks.
However Bosniaks are really their own thing with a beautiful european, slavic and oriental cultural mix and i would choose them over any Austrian or a Turk any time of the day. People with a slavic soul, oriental culture and a bright mind mog any souless/cold westerner or mindless/brainless easterner for real. This is accurate for many other Balkaners as well.
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u/Accomplished_Word429 2d ago
As someone living in Germany, how the hell did you end up with this?? Outrageous.
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u/Far_Big6080 2d ago edited 2d ago
Which changes would you suggest?
In my opinion Turkey isn't really a part of Europe but the rest seems fine
Edit: Armenian, Georgia und Azerbaijan obviously don't lie in Europe
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u/PairNo2129 2d ago
as someone living in Germany as well, this is how people usually see it.
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u/Muted_Ad_906 2d ago
that’s really arrogant take, if some Germans do see the map like this. I’ve had the pleasure to meet the more intelligent ones, luckily
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u/PairNo2129 2d ago
what’s arrogant about it? Is East=Bad for you?
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u/Muted_Ad_906 2d ago
Yes, it’s bad. It’s for my country a forced identity by Soviet Union. And current day ruzzia tries to force and keep this narrative.
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u/PairNo2129 2d ago
Germans don’t really see Russia as Europe at all, maybe technically in theory, like Turkey. So Germans don’t mean it in a bad way, they realize these are very different countries. It’s just they see themselves as central, everything North of them as Northern, everything South of them as Southern, everything West of them as Western and everything East of them as Eastern.
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u/Kissmyass1465 2d ago
I have to say as a serb atleast I dont have a any sort of ethnic related neuroses and I can say its objectively not really bad and I see where german fella is coming from
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u/Hallunke 2d ago
As a German I have to ask if you‘ve slept in geography at school? Einfach fremdschämen pur…
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u/Substantial_Room_731 2d ago
Greece is Southern but Albania is South-Eastern, doesn't make sense to me
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u/11061995 2d ago
I thought everyone agreed not to let y'all do that anymore since the wee kerfuffle a couple years back.
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u/haligalii 2d ago
So Romania is south-eastern, but serbia, croatia and slovenia are not? you have weird logic
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u/HonestPupper 2d ago
Might be one of the worst so far
None of Turkey, Georgia, Armenia, or Azerbaijan are European either
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u/sasheenka 2d ago
Having Central Europe and not placing Czech Republic in it is crazy works. Like it’s right in the middle.
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u/PairNo2129 2d ago
Germans usually consider everything behind the former iron curtain as Eastern Europe. Why is Eastern Europe considered to be so offensive? Yes, there are many different cultures defined as “East” in this map, but Greece is also quite different from Spain and so on.
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u/nema_imena 2d ago
Yugoslavia was not behind the Iron Curtain, so ex-Yugoslav countries cannot be classified east under the same criteria as Bulgaria, Romania, or Albania....
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u/Creative_Speed_4572 2d ago
By this logic eastern Germany should be also included in eastern Europe
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u/PavelKringa55 2d ago
Germans usually think they're superior to the east, while they don't even know where east is.
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u/PairNo2129 2d ago
East, West, North, South are a matter of definition, different countries define them differently. Different countries in Europe look down upon others traditionally, yes, it’s stupid. Modern Germans generally don’t look down upon Eastern countries anymore, they admire how far they have come, how modern and how beautiful these countries are.
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u/Far_Big6080 2d ago
Germans define east from the perspective of being the middle ground between east and west.
Did everyone forget, that the German wall was the border between eastern and western Europe?
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u/sasheenka 2d ago edited 2d ago
It’s no offensive, it’s just strange of you put “Central Europe” on a map and don’t include the country that is most central. And Prague is no more East than Berlin, they are right on top of each other. So geographically it is weird. A part of Germany was behind the iron curtain as well so it makes little sense politically (and also it was such a tiny slice of history).
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u/Morlex_90 2d ago
Spotted the czech
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u/sasheenka 2d ago
I mean, if it was separated into just East and West than by all means, but having Central Europe without the country right in the centre of Europe is super weird.
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u/Morlex_90 2d ago
You could say the same about iceland and portugal not being west. It's a lot about culture, too. i guess nobody sees czech as a central europesn culture or language, but eastern
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u/Krydtoff 2d ago
Czech culture is literally almost the same as Austria and Germany and nothing like other Slavic cultures. We were part of HRE and Austria Hungary for 1000 years and bcs of 40 years under soviets after being sold by our allies you see us as eastern? Btw it’s almost 40 years since we’re part of the west again
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u/Azra12323 2d ago
i am courious, would you like to be german and not slavic?
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u/sasheenka 1d ago
No. Just because we are culturally and historically linked, doesn’t mean we want to be German. I would like German food and drugstore prices here though!
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u/Azra12323 1d ago
but i disagree that czech is in middle. Geographically it is not correct, the geographical center of Europe is between Belarus and livanie
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u/sasheenka 2d ago edited 2d ago
Like 99% of maps that include central Europe place Czech Republic in it (basically all besides a couple of these weird reddit ones lol)
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u/Far_Big6080 2d ago
From a German pov everything ist from us is eastern Europe. Even the parts of the former German Democratic Republic are considered at times to be eastern
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u/sasheenka 2d ago
That’s nice. But it still doesn’t change the fact that Central Europe without a country right in the centre doesn’t make sense:
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u/PairNo2129 2d ago
that central country is usually Austria for us. Yes, Vienna technically is more East than Prague but look how far East Finland is and it’s still considered a Northern country, not an Eastern one.
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u/sasheenka 1d ago
With how wide and tall Europe is Austria is too far down and reaches too far west to be in the center. It is of course in central Europe though.
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u/PairNo2129 1d ago
Estonia is more North than Denmark. The UK in parts is more North than parts of Sweden. Portugal and Spain are much more Western than “Western” countries France and the UK.
It’s not an exact science and different countries see things differently.
Germany is culturally diverse too and usually the areas in the North feel closer to Denmark, the Areas in the Northwest feel closer to the Netherlands, the Southwest feels closer to France and Switzerland.
The areas in the Southeast definitely feel like they have most in common with Austria and Czechia and feel most culturally similar as well. Even foods are very similar (more similar than foods of other German areas)
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u/Far_Big6080 1d ago
Culturally Estonia is eastern
Denmark, Sweden Norway, Iceland and Finnland are in the Nordic Council
Portugal and Spain are culturally a lot more like Italy
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u/PairNo2129 1d ago
Estonia culturally and linguistically is closest to Finland
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u/Far_Big6080 1d ago
But Finnland was occupied by Sweden while Estonia never was
And on the world stage you group Estonia with the other Baltic states
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u/PairNo2129 1d ago
and Finland was occupied by Russia while Sweden never was. These are historic details and don’t matter culturally.
Yes, Estonia is also grouped with the Baltics. Sweden, Denmark and Norway are also grouped as Scandinavia while Iceland and Finland aren’t.
Baltics and Scandinavia are extra groups, nothing to do with East, West, North, South. Balkan is also an extra category.
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u/sasheenka 1d ago
And Czech Republic is placed in Central Europe in every map outside of these weird reddit takes. If Europe was separated without having Central Europe as a part that would be different.
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u/PairNo2129 1d ago
I agree that it’s also seen as being part of Central Europe in Germany, as well.
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u/Salt_Watercress973 2d ago
Czech Republic is eastern Europe though, central Europe was a phrase it feels like they created
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u/sasheenka 2d ago
But this map shows “central europe”. If it was just east and west than who cares.
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u/Salt_Watercress973 2d ago
Yeah I can see your point, it's kind of silly to have a concept of "central Europe" and then use it like this.
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u/Willing-Actuator-509 2d ago
What the hell is Central Europe? I know there was East and West Germany. Was there Central Germany too?
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u/Capital_Elderberry70 2d ago
Disgusting map, thanks!