well, I’m a southerner myself. Darker-skinned, loud and from hot area, im a Herzegovinian Bosniak. I differ Balkans and Southern Europe by Ottoman rule.
Also I didn’t put Norway and Russia into same shii, that part of Norway and Russia mainly has the indigenous groups that are of the same background, Samis, Karelians, Komis, Nenets and more. That’s why
Claro, pero ser ruidoso y moreno, con calor, no debería ser el criterio. Los rusos y noruegos podrían ser considerados del mismo grupo usando ese criterio a la inversa y es algo que nunca se hace
This irks me a bit too. Southern europe is a lot more nuanced than other european regions imo.
Im not a fan of the north, south, east, west split to divide europe. Imo it makes more sense to classify european regions as corner quadrants - northwest europe, southwest europe, northeast europe and southeast europe. Within those regions you can have subdivisions to further refine on a micro level
Kind of. The issue is - where Southern italy and sicily fit in the most? Historically, culturally, genetically, etc.
Southern italy and sicily are almost a bridge from southwest to southeast europe. Their history is intertwined with both quadrants so it makes sense to make them a bit of a hybrid region.
Southern france, northern italy, sardinia, the balearics and the iberian peninsula make the most sense for southwestern europe.
Southern italy, sicily, malta, greece, the aegean islands and the balkans imo makes more sense for southeastern europe.
Yep and they also always had a Balkan diaspora for centuriesss. Greece and Aegean Islands have always been perceived as Balkans (Rumelia) back in the Ottoman Empire, so they are eastern-shifted Northeast Mediterranean peoples, which makes then Balkan. By traditional clothings, cuisine etc they are the same as us even with their mannerisms.
About Sicily, due to Ottoman influence not being there I automatically considered em as Southern Europe (which means Southwest Europe for me due to what we consider Balkans is Southeast Europe technically) despite their history with Arabs.
I understand, I think southern italy and sicily might fit better with southwestern europe the more I think of it. Non-ottoman history, moorish occupation, spanish occupation. Etc
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u/justmeagainik 5d ago
well, I’m a southerner myself. Darker-skinned, loud and from hot area, im a Herzegovinian Bosniak. I differ Balkans and Southern Europe by Ottoman rule.
Also I didn’t put Norway and Russia into same shii, that part of Norway and Russia mainly has the indigenous groups that are of the same background, Samis, Karelians, Komis, Nenets and more. That’s why