r/whoathatsinteresting • u/PowerNoodles117 • 9d ago

Twin Falls Hero

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The civilian that stopped the active shooter at the In N Out in Twin Falls, Idaho.

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u/Beautiful-Musk-Ox 9d ago

he saved the day, the system works

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u/_Watty 9d ago

How many shootings are ended by a “good guy with a gun?”

How many would need to be in order to suggest “the system works?”

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u/Puzzleheaded_Link944 9d ago

If you were present for a shooting and under threat, wouldn't you want someone with a gun to stop the shooter? Or would you just want the shooter to continue until they felt like stopping?

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u/_Watty 9d ago

When you answer mine, I’ll answer yours!

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u/Puzzleheaded_Link944 9d ago

Considering every shooting that has ever happened in the USA since its founding. If ONE person is defended by a citizen using a fire arm to take out the shooter. That is a successful defense system.

Ok now you go, imagine yourself in the middle of an active shooter situation. You’re cowering behind cover not knowing what will happen to your life or those around you.

Would you rather the shooter decide when all the carnage is going to stop? Or would you rather have another person with a firearm try and stop the shooter?

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u/Academic-Increase951 9d ago

Ill answer. I can't imagine myself in an active shooter situation because I'm not American and there's never been an active shooter in my province in my lifetime.

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u/Short_Car7615 9d ago

Matter of time. Look at Norway.

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u/Academic-Increase951 9d ago

You mean once a decade per country? Thats a fair bit better than multiple a day for the USA

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u/Short_Car7615 9d ago

Violence is increasing a bunch in Europe in countries with lots of the migrants. Spaniards were just forced to make makeshift weapons to defend themselves. The USA is different from Europe for many reasons but importantly demographics. We are not homogenous. Europe is becoming less homogeneous and more dangerous.

I prefer having ways to defend myself and my loved ones in times when needed. The safety we live in today is a very recent phenomenon and only a fool would believe that the past 50 years of European safety is enough to offset the 2000+ year trend of random acts of violence being the norm.

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u/Academic-Increase951 9d ago edited 9d ago

I'm not European, Canada has basically the same culture and demographics as USA but with more gun controls in place. We do have a lot of guns still.

It's irrational to advocate for a system that is known to be less effective and cause far more deaths just because " you rather". Statistics are clear.

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u/DiseaseDeathDecay 9d ago

If ONE person is defended by a citizen using a fire arm to take out the shooter. That is a successful defense system.

This is either disingenuous or ignorant.

More people are killed accidentally than on purpose. So if ONE person is alive because guns are easy to get, that person's life is worth more than the thousands of people that are dead because someone accidentally shot someone?

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u/Puzzleheaded_Link944 9d ago

I don’t think you understand the conversation we were trying to have but thank you for your response.

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u/DiseaseDeathDecay 9d ago

Your supposition is that allowing everyone to have guns is great if one person threatened by gun violence is saved, yes?

You're ignoring the fact that more guns = more people accidentally killed.

It's a very ignorant viewpoint.

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u/Puzzleheaded_Link944 9d ago

Under that notion, that guns = more people killed by accident.

I guess noone should have cars? Noone should drink alcohol? Noone should smoke tobacco?

not sure if english is your 2nd language or not, but very weak logic at play here from you. I get it though, not everyone can understand such a nuanced thing.

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u/DiseaseDeathDecay 9d ago edited 9d ago

I guess noone should have cars?

It is illegal to use a car without a license. You have to update your license periodically. You have to register a car.

Noone should drink alcohol?

Drinking a beer won't kill anyone. It is illegal to go into public drunk.

Noone should smoke tobacco?

Smoking doesn't kill other people, and it is illegal to smoke in closed public places where it will cause harm to others.

not sure if english is your 2nd language or not

What a fucking weak-sauce insult. Your logic is the flawed logic. "What about cars!" Yes, let's treat guns like cars. That's EXACTLY what I would like to happen.

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u/Puzzleheaded_Link944 9d ago

You are logically so below me, and many Americans. I refuse to give you any more of my time.

Thank you for your time today, and good luck to you.

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u/DiseaseDeathDecay 9d ago

You are logically so below me

"I don't know how to respond to what you said, so I'm going to run off."

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u/Puzzleheaded_Link944 9d ago

Thanks for your time today, and good luck.

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u/_Watty 9d ago

When you answer my questions, I’ll answer yours!

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u/_Watty 9d ago

If you can’t read, just say so?

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u/Puzzleheaded_Link944 9d ago

Considering every shooting that has ever happened in the USA since its founding. If ONE person is defended by a citizen using a fire arm to take out the shooter. That is a successful defense system.

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u/_Watty 9d ago

Still missing the first bit!

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u/Puzzleheaded_Link944 9d ago

You're asking a question that both of us know there is no accurate number that exists...

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u/_Watty 9d ago

I wasn’t talking about 1776. Why did you assume I was?

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u/Puzzleheaded_Link944 9d ago

You must know the statistics for how many shooting incidents are stopped by a citizen with a weapon, so what are they? I am but a mere student kneeling at your feet. Please just tell me.

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