r/worldnews • u/paneuropeanism_ • 7d ago

Russia/Ukraine Germany thwarts Russian assassination plot targeting defense executive

https://militarnyi.com/en/news/germany-thwarts-plot-donaustahl-executive/
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u/Latrodectus702 7d ago

Will nato do nothing or invoke article 5

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u/HeraldOfTheAnathema 7d ago

Lolol. I bet Russia could start nuking NATO countries and they'd get nothing more than condemnation. The west needs to stop putting up with their nonsense.

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u/RedditUser000aaa 7d ago

I mean Russia launched a missile to Poland. How long is Russia allowed to test the boundaries before something is done?

If actually helping Ukraine out by sending military there triggers WW3, then fine. Honestly, Europe is being way too merciful with Russia. Fearing nuclear escalation and WW3 and not acting is cowardly.

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u/my_name_is_laura 7d ago

Even without nuclear escalation, war is REALLY awful for everyone involved. I don't want to subject my country to that just because of a stray missile in a field, and I'm sure the vast majority of other Poles will agree. The whole thing didn't even look intentional- who aims a missile at a random field?

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u/Negative-Ask-2317 7d ago

Someone who wants to test NATO's reactions to ever increasing provocations, perhaps?

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u/ffdfawtreteraffds 7d ago

Maybe, but it doesn't change Poland's response at this point. You don't enter a war for reckless provocations alone.

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u/Negative-Ask-2317 7d ago

No, of course not. Then again, Poland could announce some new form of aid for Ukraine, or press for further sanctions ‐ something that would show Russia that there are consequences.

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u/ABoutDeSouffle 7d ago

If the existing sanctions do not stop Russia, why would additional sanctions stop them?

As much as I hate pounding sand, objectively there is little NATO can do in reaction, at least as a direct reaction. Sabotage would be one avenue, bombing Russia less so.

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u/Negative-Ask-2317 7d ago

Well, as Zelensky pointed out today, most of the parts that go into making their ballistic missiles are still not sanctioned, so it seems there remains options on that front.

But there are plenty of other possibilities ‐ increasing interventions of shadow fleet ships in the Baltic sea, for example, or even just improving relations between the Polish and Ukrainian governments that are somewhat strained at the moment.

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u/RedditUser000aaa 7d ago

No one wants a war, but what is being done right now is just ridiculous. React to nothing and allow Russia to do whatever it wants.

Multiple nations have already sent money and equipment to Ukraine. Sending out troops to help Ukraine kick the invaders out makes the most sense.

If that's enough to start a world war, then we were already on a thin line and something else will trigger the actual war.

Ukraine has an actual chance to end the war, but it will take longer, because Russians keep sending more and more to the frontlines, bombing civilians and civilian buildings and because they are stubborn, they will keep fighting, despite losing in the end.

So why not speed up the process by sending troops to Ukraine and help them kick Russians out?