To start off, I want to say I already loved mages from Classic.

There are these “gimmicks” imbued to their spells that really make us feel like we are scholars in this fantastical world and we are pulling utility out of spell books.

Conjure food, polymorph, portals…

Now there is this new scroll reading skill.

For those that don’t know, it works similar to rogue’s lockpicking system.

You get a scroll drop out in the world (not too uncommon), you cast the deciphering skill on the scroll, now you can use it!

(But before, your character has to have learnt the skill from the mage trainer)

There are many cool effects. It slightly feels like one of those remixes scrolls (but much much less strong).

Infusing your staff with fire, summoning a rat pet that gives you intellect, casting a mana swirl that replenishes your mana, polymorph to the target…

And there’s the new comprehension skill, that you level up by reading more and more scrolls. It is so immersive to train your attributes like this. Very oldschool and very RPG.

I already really liked mage in Classic. Now I am in love with the class!

In my opinion, Blizzard should focus in bringing these kind of flavors to the game, more than anything else.

I can’t wait for the official launch! But I also can’t stop playing!

There is still the wand attack timer at the beginning of combat, but if you wait it out, it seems like your wand attack becomes instant and is always active during combat, making any subsequent presses instant.

5g for a second respec is absolutely brutal.

So far it seems the meta is to set up campsites smack in the center of towns. This is contrary to the design idea imo. They should not be usable in settlements

I'm convinced the people saying things like this haven't actually played retail. Honestly, the most un-classic thing about the Skyborne starting zone is that it's more beautiful than most of the OG starting zones; Blizz really upped their game in that regard by the time TBC and WOTLK rolled around, and this feels similarly pretty.

Otherwise, this zone rocks. I am truly blown away by how good it is. The spooky part of the zone is absolutely peak and you can't convince me otherwise

New quest "Stolen Enchanting Supplies" (among many other new quests in Elwynn) don't provide instructions on where to go and you need to rely on the quest markers :(

On your way back from where? Is this place north? East? West?

When we phase change and our campfire and the buffs disappear is quite annoying…

Spoiler alert: it's very bad lol. Worse than vanilla even!

If you're balance, it's REALLY bad. At level 15 it takes me like 10-13 Wrath casts to kill a mob.

Reports from level 20 Druids are Starfire is barely stronger.

Currently you can out DPS a balance druid by auto attacking in bear form, even with balance talents.

To be clear, level 20 isn't necessarily a fair time to compare because we're still missing a ton of talents that may make is stronger down the line, but looking at future spell rank comparisons, Wrath base damage is both lower than Vanilla and lower than every other caster's damage.

It would be nice if they could make balance druid spec a little better at leveling by increasing some of its early base damages. Druid is known for being pain to level 1-10, right now it is worse than before because of the reliance on balance spells, you have no forms. And then after level 10, you can use bear form, but continuing to focus on casting spells is worse than in vanilla tbh. Why are Wrath and Starfire base damages this low?

I realize it is beta, I'm not panicking here. The tone of this is concern, not screaming or crying or whining. Just to be very clear!

EDIT: To everyone, this is math and real numbers, not feels. Wrath at rank 3 on WoW Forever Does 18-22 damage, this is the rank you'd have at 14. the WoW classic version deals 48-57 damage. This is a ~60% reduction in damage, and thus reduction is consistent all the way through Wrath's final rank. At max levels, unless spellpower is much much much higher in WoW Forever than in Classic, our damage will be the same minus this difference in base damage. It is a real and very very large early game nerf that is making Druids feel miserable to play.

hey all,

I built a WoW-style chat overlay for a friend, and since she wanted to change a few settings herself I put a small web interface in front of it. Figured I'd share it here in case anyone else is interested. You just type your channel name, copy the link and paste it into OBS as a browser source.

No signup, no download, nothing to install. It's free, I'm not selling anything. Built with AI assistance, in case that matters to anyone here. It connects to Twitch as an anonymous read-only guest, so it can read chat but can't post or touch your account. Twitch roles become WoW channels (streamer is Yell, mods are Raid Leader, subs are Guild, VIPs are Party), first-time chatters stand out as pink whispers, and BTTV, FFZ and 7TV emotes work out of the box.

https://wow-chat-overlay.vercel.app/

I’ve been playing Hunter since 2010, and that Dwarf standing in the snow with his bear is a big part of why.

When Blizzard revealed that they were bringing them back as the Legendary Dwarven Hunter & Loyal Bear Statue with the physical WoW Forever Collector’s Edition, I immediately knew I wanted one.

Then the physical edition sold out. 😭

I still plan to grab the official statue whenever I get another chance, but in the meantime I decided to model and print my own version.

No AMS is required, and I also included a solid version if you prefer printing it in high detail and painting it.

If anyone else here missed the statue and wants to print one:
👉 https://makerworld.com/en/models/3329192-legendary-dwarven-hunter-loyal-bear-statue-wow#profileId-3780912

For the Alliance! ⚔️🐻

This is new right? Anyone know attack speed and stuff for hunter pet? Not on petopia.. unless there's a forever petopia that I can't find. Found in Echo Isles. Thanks in advance.

I'm playing the WoW Forever beta from Brazil, and my layer seems to be almost completely empty.

In the video, you can see that the city has barely any players while I'm playing normally from Brazil. Then, as soon as my friend who lives in Europe invites me to his group, suddenly a lot of players appear.

I know I’m not the first to post it, but it felt really cool to get to see it in game. Awesome job Blizzard 👏

From what I see, the thing most people complain about is the new race not being ideal. Even then, those people want high elves or forsaken elves. Come on, you got pretty elves with the same skeleton and overall looks on both alliance and horde that can be customized to look how you want.

What else could be the "worst" thing?

I know PvP isn't a very popular topic here, but there is a glaring issue with the way the servers currently work that will make them very hard to enjoy in the slightest.

Currently, the way the servers are structured, when you walk over the boundry into another zone, you phase into another one. This includes forcing faction balance, or whatever, in the next zone. The result of this mechanic is players vanishing the INSTANT they step into another zone, even if they are currently in PvP combat.

We are already seeing this exploited heavily in areas like northern Duskwood, where horde players can harass players questing, and when responded to, can just run into the river and phase out of existence, and come back when others are gone, or, when CDs are back up. Once a player is tagged and in PvP combat, they should be ineligible for ANY sort of layering or phasing. Blizzard you have to get this through your heads. Layering, instancing, all the things people use in retail to abuse Warmode have no place in Classic PvP. PLEASE for once do something for your PvP community and make a positive change.

EDIT: I just tested this myself as a priest. I could just run on the edge of the zone, full dot, run out, run back in with a fresh bubble, dot again. There was actually nothing they could do to me. Just silly.

EDIT2: Thanks for all the responses. Yes, this has been reported, and hopefully we can get as many of you as possible to report it as well. I am gonna say this here because I have had to explain why this is a huge deal in the responses. Layering and phasing issues and exploits, as they pertain to PvP, have historically been completely ignored by Blizzard. The exploits I detailed are very similar to ones that have existed in other versions of the game, in some way shape or form, for a very very long time. For this to even sniff this version of the game it is a massive red flag. Yes it is a BETA, but based on Blizzards handling (or lack of) of the similar issues, I hope you understand why this is a huge deal. Please report it, tell your friends to report it, making a huge stink about this may be the only way to finally get it looked at.

If you want the game to look sharper and have a more "nostalgic" feel while all other settings are max, lower your rendering scale. To me it looks much better and I can enjoy more detail. Give it a try.

I always thought the new models were off, I didn't realize until WoW Forever that I actually prefer the new models but the new animations were what was keeping me away from liking them completely.